Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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And the funny thing (sic).... @eternally-gratefull 's post was truthful and valid......
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dcontroversal said:
Amen.......he is indeed stating truth!
The Gifts and Calling of GOD are IRREVOCABLE
SALVATION is a gift of GRACE
SALVATION is IRREVOCABL
Kairos Post Reply
which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. Question: How do you tell the Blind from the Bad? Israel from Gentile?
Answer to the question I'm afraid
@Kairos If you are going to remove my quote and make me say something I did not say you will not last long here....fix your error and add my quote or delete your post!!!
Is this you best Christian foot forward? I hope everyone is not this cold. I will apologise for the error will try to find instructions on how to delete the offending post.
dcontroversal said:
Amen.......he is indeed stating truth!
The Gifts and Calling of GOD are IRREVOCABLE
SALVATION is a gift of GRACE
SALVATION is IRREVOCABL
Kairos Post Reply
which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. Question: How do you tell the Blind from the Bad? Israel from Gentile?
Answer to the question I'm afraid
@Kairos If you are going to remove my quote and make me say something I did not say you will not last long here....fix your error and add my quote or delete your post!!!
Is this you best Christian foot forward? I hope everyone is not this cold. I will apologise for the error will try to find instructions on how to delete the offending post.
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It doesn't bother me so much when I am the one being talked rough to...but it gets under my skin to witness it happening to others I've come to care for. I suppose it is training, like another has said.
It's always the same ones causing the drama, like a bunch of little girls. Bible discussion is not going to be tolerated for very long. It's always division and strife, us or them language every day. Name calling, mud slinging the nastier the better. I usually don't say anything about it, just read around and let it go. I don't care what is said about me because I consider the source, but just lately I think they really hurt a sister and it got to me.
It's always the same ones causing the drama, like a bunch of little girls. Bible discussion is not going to be tolerated for very long. It's always division and strife, us or them language every day. Name calling, mud slinging the nastier the better. I usually don't say anything about it, just read around and let it go. I don't care what is said about me because I consider the source, but just lately I think they really hurt a sister and it got to me.
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Hi, I just wanted to say welcome to CC, there are a few good guys here if you're brave enough to withstand the ugly. Dcontrovertial has said that same thing, "you will not last long here" to at least one other new poster that I'm aware of in the last day or so. I would not be too concerned, as well as, he knows full well mistakes happen, and we only have a certain amount of time to edit a post, so it's not something you can fix anyway, even if you wanted to. He knows that. Sorry about the drama. don't let it get to ya. You haven't done anything wrong.
why does Genesis 26:4-5 exist? many reasons. primarily, because it testifies of Christ. because He is that seed through whom all nations are blessed to whom all lands belong, who inherits all things.
so knowing this, what is the blessing Abraham received for obedience? Christ in him, the hope of glory. but this does not set aside what is pointed out clearly there in Romans, that Abraham was justified by faith, and declared righteous on no basis of works or obedience but because he believed God. righteousness, in the view of scripture, is by faith, not by works.
which ((boy doncha get tired of feeling compelled to say it over and over again)) the fact that the righteousness God accepts is by faith, not by good works, does not in any way shape or form indicate that we ought to be lawless, willfully sinful, and chase our lusts all day erry day. it does not mean we preach against works. it does not mean we think a holy life is of no consequence or not to be pursued. it means that we recognize our hope and trust is in Jesus and what He has done and promised to do, not in ourselves, not in our will, not in our behaviour modification, not in our desire, not in our actions and not in our inactions.
it means perfect love has driven out fear. it means we have peace with God through our Lord.
so why does Genesis 26:4-5 exist? because, wisdom has her reward. not because keeping laws and commandments and statutes results in righteousness.
Abraham has life because he believes.
Abraham is blessed because believing, he obeyed the Lord's voice.
so knowing this, what is the blessing Abraham received for obedience? Christ in him, the hope of glory. but this does not set aside what is pointed out clearly there in Romans, that Abraham was justified by faith, and declared righteous on no basis of works or obedience but because he believed God. righteousness, in the view of scripture, is by faith, not by works.
which ((boy doncha get tired of feeling compelled to say it over and over again)) the fact that the righteousness God accepts is by faith, not by good works, does not in any way shape or form indicate that we ought to be lawless, willfully sinful, and chase our lusts all day erry day. it does not mean we preach against works. it does not mean we think a holy life is of no consequence or not to be pursued. it means that we recognize our hope and trust is in Jesus and what He has done and promised to do, not in ourselves, not in our will, not in our behaviour modification, not in our desire, not in our actions and not in our inactions.
it means perfect love has driven out fear. it means we have peace with God through our Lord.
so why does Genesis 26:4-5 exist? because, wisdom has her reward. not because keeping laws and commandments and statutes results in righteousness.
For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law.
(Galatians 3:21)
Abraham has life because he believes.
Abraham is blessed because believing, he obeyed the Lord's voice.
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to be fair it's pretty common that someone whose been banned from the forum comes right back with a new user name, skips all introductions and appears right in the middle of the same argument for which they got kicked off in the first place, pretending that they are brand new and just happened to randomly jump right into the thick of something with exactly the same views as the person who was just removed for them.
((just, ya, know, you can see where people get suspicious))
don't you think calling it a 'tactic to try to get rid of someone' is a bit like accusing people of willfully lying, out of spite?
i don't think that's the motivation. i think it's really suspicion that's driven by circumstance and by the history of how often banned members really do come right back. sometimes it's pretty obvious that's what's going on, and i reckon some people do jump the gun thinking that's always the case, but i don't think anyone is so malicious as to just accuse without cause.
((just, ya, know, you can see where people get suspicious))
don't you think calling it a 'tactic to try to get rid of someone' is a bit like accusing people of willfully lying, out of spite?
i don't think that's the motivation. i think it's really suspicion that's driven by circumstance and by the history of how often banned members really do come right back. sometimes it's pretty obvious that's what's going on, and i reckon some people do jump the gun thinking that's always the case, but i don't think anyone is so malicious as to just accuse without cause.
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Another police officer was shot in the city where I live. Shot once in the face, twice in the torso, multiple times in leg. The perp that shot him, after attempting to rob a store, was killed on the scene. Made me recall these verses in Romans For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval. 4For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not carry the sword in vain. He is God’s servant, an agent of retribution to the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience.…
Yet we have "Christians" who say the law is not valid for us.
Yet we have "Christians" who say the law is not valid for us.