Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

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Leastamongmany said:
Sin separates from God! Unconfessed sin is death! Spiritual death means you are separated from God! Duh! NO SALVATION! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED! 🙏🙏🙏
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Do you keep a list?

Praise God...... I know all my sins are forgiven past, present and future!!:)

btw..... I absolutely disagree with what you have written and not only that it is not in the bible
 
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Nat2019 said:
OSAS think Non-OSAS believers are working for their salvation (self righteous people), so they try and come against us too. But their ideas of conditional security are actually false. Because we believe we are saved by faith. So stop accusing us for working for our salvation. Because we dont believe believe that. At least I have done my studies of Calvinism. But have you studied conditional security?. Your faith is faith alone- not mentioned in the bible. Faith with works is only mentioned. So who's correct according to the bible. You are secure with real faith, not demon faith. All in the bible;)
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If you your salvation is not secure and assured then you are working for salvation, there is no way around that, because it means there is something you must do to stay saved >>>>> thereby nullifying the work of the cross!!
 
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mailmandan said:
Don’t confuse “descriptive” passages of scripture with “prescriptive” passages of scripture.
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The only issues between us is our view on faith you believe in the faith of demons- faith alone.

While I believe in a COMPLETE faith- faith that produces good works.
I believe I am saved by faith, but a real one.

You may not agree with the book of James, but I do.
 
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UnderGrace said:
If you your salvation is not secure and assured then you are working for salvation, there is no way around that, because it means there is something you must do to stay saved >>>>> thereby nullifying the work of the cross!!
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The issue is faith. You dont believe in a COMPLETE faith like Abraham had.
 
UnderGrace said:
Is Jesus still on the cross paying the debt of sin?
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He pain a debt, not so we can continue sinning. But so we have power to be free from sin. Gods grace shouldn't be used to justify sinful behavior whether it's now or in the future. No where does it say you will be forgiven for your future sins.
 
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Nat2019 said:
So if you become one of the worst sinners in the future or turn away from the faith you will automatically be forgiven without repenting?
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He is more than able to deal with us even to the point of death.....Ananias and Sapphira come to mind.
 
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Nat2019 said:
He pain a debt, not so we can continue sinning. But so we have power to be free from sin. Gods grace shouldn't be used to justify sinful behavior whether it's now or in the future. No where does it say you will be forgiven for your future sins.
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Do you understand what Jesus accomplished on the cross?

This is a terrible doctrine that is so prevalent today on the internet and the street corners..... very sad that you have fallen for this, there is no good news in what you preach.
 
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Nat2019 said:
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The only issues between us is our view on faith you believe in the faith of demons- faith alone.

While I believe in a COMPLETE faith- faith that produces good works.
I believe I am saved by faith, but a real one.

You may not agree with the book of James, but I do.
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Actually I do agree with the book of James and the book of Romans. It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies is never alone (solitary, unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine (James 2:14-24). *Perfect Harmony* (y)

As I already explained in post #593, in James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God" but they do not believe/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation. In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil

I believe in genuine faith that trusts in Christ alone for salvation and results in producing good works (Ephesians 2:5-10) but we are still saved through faith, not works. Faith is the root of salvation and good works are the fruit. No fruit at all would demonstrate there is no root.

It sounds to me like you believe we are saved by faith and works. :cautious:
 
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Nat2019 said:
Its dangerous to tell people that they can commit sins and jesus will cover them with his blood.
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It is beyond dangerous to preach the wrong Gospel.

Jesus paid the debt in full, you have been taught wrongly, seriously you need to come out from whomever has taught you this it has no power to save :(
 
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