Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

[eternally-gratefull]

Why are you being so unkind to others? Theres no need for hate

Unkind.

I am just stating the truth

I came into a room and saw a lot of hate from a person you are chummy with and acted in kind,

Why do you judge me and not him?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

By the way I hate Once Saved always saved because of people like you, I am glad to get away from it. It's a horrible gospel with "FAKE" love. Only loving those who agree with you. A bit like a Cult

Lol

So instead of trusting god (grace) you would rather trust self (works)

You do realise the most judgmental, self righteous people are against eternal security? They are forced to be judgments, because otherwise their own sin would be exposed.

 

[Victor1999]

Do you hate each other? Do you feel that your anger is justified? Take a deep breath and relax. Anger does not allow understanding so it's useless to argue. If salvation can't be lost, then a pleasant surprise is waiting for those who think they can lose their salvation.

 

[Nat2019]

By the way I hate Once Saved always saved because of people like you, I am glad to get away from it. It's a horrible gospel with "FAKE" love. Only loving those who agree with you. A bit like a Cult

A was at the bus stop a few years ago and a women told me "God loves you", then she looked down on a man with missing fingers, who had a drinking problem and gave him evil eyes. Why not tell the drunk man that God Loves him. But no she looked down at him with disgust. Such fake love, only choosing who you will love.

Alot of you people are exacly like this women from OSAS. You look down on others with disgust and I read your comments

 

[eternally-gratefull]

W

Do you hate each other? Do you feel that your anger is justified? Take a deep breath and relax. Anger does not allow understanding so it's useless to argue. If salvation can't be lost, then a pleasant surprise is waiting for those who think they can lose their salvation.

Who is angry?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A was at the bus stop a few years ago and a women told me "God loves you", then she looked down on a man with missing fingers, who had a drinking problem and gave him evil eyes. Why not tell the drunk man that God Loves him. But no she looked down at him with disgust. Such fake love, only choosing who you will love.

Alot of you people are exacly like this women from OSAS. You look down on others with disgust and I read your comments

Um that woman was probably a legalist,

An eternally secure person would have looked at man with love knowing god loved him just as much

 

[Nat2019]

T

Lol

So instead of trusting god (grace) you would rather trust self (works)

You do realise the most judgmental, self righteous people are against eternal security? They are forced to be judgments, because otherwise their own sin would be exposed.

You just pass judgments without actually asking someone what they believe. Quite sad actually.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A was at the bus stop a few years ago and a women told me "God loves you", then she looked down on a man with missing fingers, who had a drinking problem and gave him evil eyes. Why not tell the drunk man that God Loves him. But no she looked down at him with disgust. Such fake love, only choosing who you will love.

Alot of you people are exacly like this women from OSAS. You look down on others with disgust and I read your comments

You have the two groups mixed up my friend.

 

[Victor1999]

W

Who is angry?

That's what I'm asking. Be honest with yourself, no need to post the answer here. God is watching us right now... Who is angry? If any of the sides is angry it's useless to talk.

 

[Nat2019]

Um that woman was probably a legalist,

An eternally secure person would have looked at man with love knowing god loved him just as much

Then why dont you people talk to people with Love. You constantly talk about it, but where is it?.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

T

You just pass judgments without actually asking someone what they believe. Quite sad actually.

all one has to do is look at what you post to know what you believe.

Its not sad.

1. You reject eternal life (Eternal security or osas)
2. You reject imputed righteousness
3. You stick up for legalists. And do not judge their hate, but judge a grace person as being angry or hateful (one sided)

Stick around for awhile. You will see the same characteristics in people who agree as you do.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

That's what I'm asking. Be honest with yourself, no need to post the answer here. God is watching us right now... Who is angry? If any of the sides is angry it's useless to talk.

Amen.

It turns into name calling and not open discussion

 

[Nat2019]

all one has to do is look at what you post to know what you believe.

Its not sad.

1. You reject eternal life (Eternal security or osas)
2. You reject imputed righteousness
3. You stick up for legalists. And do not judge their hate, but judge a grace person as being angry or hateful (one sided)

Stick around for awhile. You will see the same characteristics in people who agree as you do.

A grace person. Where is the grace involved when we speak

 

[Nat2019]

What did he say?

Unkind.

I am just stating the truth

I came into a room and saw a lot of hate from a person you are chummy with and acted in kind,

Why do you judge me and not him?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Then why dont you people talk to people with Love. You constantly talk about it, but where is it?.

When you love someone you tell the the truth, no matter how hard you know it will hurt..

Sadly, we have gotten away from that.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A grace person. Where is the grace involved when we speak

do you have anything important to say?

 

[OneOfHis]

IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS inst in the bible.

Philippians 3:9
9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith


Romans 3:22 - Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
____

If you think it is your righteousness that will help you get to heaven...

You are sorely mistaken.
_____

Romans 9

30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

romans 10

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.



You are entitled to your own beliefs even if they don't match up to scripture. (but please stop the hypocritical statements, and false accusations... and please pray for God to show you what He wants you to see)

 

[Nat2019]

What did he say?

When you love someone you tell the the truth, no matter how hard you know it will hurt..

Sadly, we have gotten away from that.

But your truth is your own opinion. It's not Truth but a personal view you have of the bible.

 

[Nat2019]

Philippians 3:9
9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith


Romans 3:22 - Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
____

If you think it is your righteousness that will help you get to heaven...

You are sorely mistaken.
_____

Romans 9

30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

romans 10

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.



You are entitled to your own beliefs even if they don't match up to scripture. (but please stop the hypocritical statements, and false accusations... and please pray for God to show you what He wants you to see)

Listen the term "IMPUTED Righteousness" isnt in the bible. So I am not pretending it is and I believe everything in the bible. You gave scriptures. I agree with all scriptures in the bible.

 

[Nat2019]

Listen the term "IMPUTED Righteousness" isnt in the bible. So I am not pretending it is and I believe everything in the bible. You gave scriptures. I agree with all scriptures in the bible.

-If you think it is your righteousness that will help you get to heaven...
You are sorely mistaken

*Do you people ever stop judging and attacking another's beliefs?