Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

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UnderGrace said:
I thought you did not like to argue??

The Gospel is we are saved .... not quasi- saved.

It is irrevocable, it is a gift to those who believe God for it, which cannot be forsaken, lost, revoked, taken back or undone, that is not the God I serve ... He is not a God of half-measures.
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Look you quote scripture and the deceivers do not like it....kind of like the garden.....Satan disregarded the word as well and embellished.....
 
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dcontroversal said:
Look you quote scripture and the deceivers do not like it....kind of like the garden.....Satan disregarded the word as well and embellished.....
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And they never respond to said scripture.... they pull up a verse from Hebrews as their "trump card" not realizing Hebrews is all about the "security of the believer" apart from sacrifice and works.

It is quite ironic.
 
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Nat2019 said:
Where is the scripture that has the words "FINISHED WORK" of Christ?.
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Romans 3:24 - Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Do you believe the redemption that is in Christ Jesus was FINISHED or UN-finished? Christ's finished work of redemption through His death, burial and resurrection is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed.

Where in the bible does it say we are justified by the term faith "ALONE". Not faith, but FAITH ALONE".
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The Bible clearly states in numerous passages of scripture that we are saved through belief/faith "apart from additions or modifications." (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18,36; 6:40,47; 11:25,26; Acts 10:43; 13:39; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:22-28; 4:5; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8; Philippians 3:9; 1 John 5:13 etc..). *You don't need to add the word "alone" next to "belief/faith" in each of these passages of scripture in order to figure out that the words, "belief/faith" stand alone in connection with receiving eternal life/salvation. Do these many passages of scripture say belief/faith "plus something else?" Plus works? NO. So then it's faith (rightly understood) IN CHRIST ALONE. (Ephesians 2:8,9) Do you believe that we are saved through faith in Christ alone or by faith plus works?

I read what's in the bible and DEMON faith- faith alone doesn't save according to the bible. Its Just believing a God exists.
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In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God" but they do not believe/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation. In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works.
 
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mailmandan said:
Romans 3:24 - Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Do you believe the redemption that is in Christ Jesus was FINISHED or UN-finished? Christ's finished work of redemption through His death, burial and resurrection is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed.

The Bible clearly states in numerous passages of scripture that we are saved through belief/faith "apart from additions or modifications." (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18,36; 6:40,47; 11:25,26; Acts 10:43; 13:39; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:22-28; 4:5; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8; Philippians 3:9; 1 John 5:13 etc..). *You don't need to add the word "alone" next to "belief/faith" in each of these passages of scripture in order to figure out that the words, "belief/faith" stand alone in connection with receiving eternal life/salvation. Do these many passages of scripture say belief/faith "plus something else?" Plus works? NO. So then it's faith (rightly understood) IN CHRIST ALONE. (Ephesians 2:8,9) Do you believe that we are saved through faith in Christ alone or by faith plus works?

In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God" but they do not believe/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation. In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works.
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Oh boy! The mailman is here! And that means the judaizers are about to get a special delivery of Gospel Truth!
 
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