You seem to be the one full of opinion so.......how is Italy?You can have your opinion
Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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Hahahahahaahahhahhahahhahahaa sure.........Christ did not die to redeem demons...nor do they have saving faith!!
Of course they had no saving faith, thats my point here
. They just believed with no action involved.
Of course they had no saving faith, thats my point here
Sorry......does not change the fact of the verse I quoted....works do not save, keep saved or even prove salvation......what part of AU are you in...I am in Penrith right now
Of course they had no saving faith, thats my point here
Galatians 2:16
Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by (faith) in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
West side....hah hilarious....very broad brush there hahahOf course, sure I am in the west side
Romans 3:20
For by (works) of (the law) no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.
For by (works) of (the law) no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.
James 2:17 New International Version (NIV)
17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
Written to Jews that BELIEVE IN GOD but no saving faith....CONTEXT CONTEXT AND I MUST SAY CONTEXT.........!!!!!!!!! It is NOT ABOUT WORKS.....
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Written to Jews that BELIEVE IN GOD but no saving faith....CONTEXT CONTEXT AND I MUST SAY CONTEXT.........!!!!!!!!! It is NOT ABOUT WORKS.....
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
So your saying it's just another story book, that doesn't have any meaning in our lives?. Plenty of history books in the library. I believe the whole word of God, has meanings or instructions we can learn from. Its not just a history book to me
Of course, I believe that scripture. But that's only 1 of them in the bible.
I have recently heard one way to reconcile James with Paul, is that James made a distinction between righteousness and justification.
From this perspective, Abraham was declared righteous when he believed that God will make him a father of many. But he was only justified after he was willing to sacrifice Issac on the altar. That is what a literal reading of James 2 would imply
Thus, the view is that, before Jesus, these 2 take place at different times, one thru faith, the other thru a corresponding work.
But now, after the cross, righteousness and justification for us take place simultaneously when we accept Jesus's DBR.
What do you think of this perspective?
Did you the word "believeth" is a continuous tense. Means continuing to believe
I believe the book of James describes what true faith actually is
That's how I view it. The true faith that saves.Did you the word "believeth" is a continuous tense. Means continuing to believe
I believe the book of James describes what true faith actually is
So in your opinion, do you think there is a difference between righteousness and justification? Do they mean the same thing?
I was taught that the latter means "as if you have never sinned."
Romans 4:25 New International Version (NIV)Did you the word "believeth" is a continuous tense. Means continuing to believe
I believe the book of James describes what true faith actually is
25 He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.