The Bottomless Pit is neither Hades, nor Hell, nor Tartarus
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Sub sets.. ? I have not heard of classifying lying spirits in that way .
We know the bottomless pit is a metaphor to represent the un-ending judgment up until the last day when the letter of the law loses its ability to kill . The key is the gospel that loosens those from the bondage of the pit and binds the chain of the father of lies reducing his power to deceive.
Amen! Satan is powerless against Jesus! The devil is such a deceiver, he doesn't want people to know he has always been in the bottomless pit.
The beast gets his effectual working power from Satan......and Satan is indeed the KosmoKrator and the ruler of all fallen angels!
Because he never has forgiveness and doesn't want anyone to have it. Jesus defeated him,
To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. Isa.42:7
Satan is not and has never been in the Abyss. According to Rev.9:1 and 20:1, it requires a key to open it and lock it. Therefore, Satan cannot just come and go in and out as he pleases. If a spirit gets put in there, they're staying until it's reopened. The truth is that Satan is currently out in the world and he also still access to heaven. Both Peter and Paul demonstrate that Satan is out in the world:
"In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one."
"If you forgive anyone, I also forgive him. And if I have forgiven anything, I have forgiven it in the presence of Christ for your sake, in order that Satan should not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes."
"hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord."
"Be sober-minded and alert. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."
From just the scriptures above, it is obvious that Satan is not in the Abyss. For if he was, he would not have opportunity to deceive the inhabitants of the earth. However, there will be a time when he will be put into the Abyss, but that will not take place until the Lord returns to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom. (Rev.20:1-7)
Currently, there is another fallen angel in the Abyss called destroyer. He has authority over those demonic beings who are released at the sounding of the 5th trumpet, where at which time he will also come up out of the Abyss (Rev.11:7, 17:8, 11).
So we know that since Satan is shown to be out in the world and this beast from the Abyss is revealed to come up out of the Abyss, then we know that the Satan and the angel/beast of the Abyss are two individual fallen angels that will be working together for the same evil goal, as will all the other fallen angels/demons.
While it is true that Satan is the ruler of all fallen angels, it is also true that there are angelic squad leaders who have authority over specific groups, just as the holy angels do and just as they did before they fell.
I also agree with you that, the beast will get his power, throne and great authority from Satan, for this very thing is stated in Rev.13:2
"And the dragon (Satan) gave the beast his power and throne and great authority. "
"The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction.
Jesus is the key. He's the chain. Jesus bound Satan and there is nothing he can do about it. And faith in our Lord stops the devil cold.
the evil one cannot touch him. 1Jn.5:18
He can't come into people who trust in Jesus.
Fiery arrows that can't harm believers?
Satan can't outwit believers?
Was this about the "Christian" adulterer?
So Satan can't devour the faithful in Christ?
Believers are inhabitants of the earth and you cited scripture where the Apostles tell us how not to be deceived.
The world apart from God is a bottomless pit. There's no lasting satisfaction to it. Read Ecc.1:4-8. a hole that can't be filled. As for all the power of Satan, the beast, demons,
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Lk.10:19
Jesus proved it when he rose from the dead.
Do you understand what "KosmoKrator" means and from where it comes?
It's the Greek behind the biblical phrase, "the rulers of (the darkness) of this world " in Ephesians 6:12.
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Why are you mischaracterizing what Garee said? He didn't say "nothing in the Bible is literal", he said why would Jesus throw in a literal story among all the other stories which are parables.
In Revelation 9 when the locust come out they only can hurt but not kill ect. the ones who "do not have the seal of God in their foreheads",,,so they are not hurting those with the seal,,,they hurt the ones who do not have it.
Maybe read Ephesians 6 and instead of mouthy flippant remarks embrace the truth for once!!!
Obviously not or he would not have made a fool of himself with a mouthy flippant remark