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PennEd

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Ok,either you cant read or you can not prove your claims about Wigglesworth
What claim did I make against Wigglesworth? Are you referring to him using violence to heal people?

That has never ever been up for debate. Critics and supporters all agree that he did.
 

DeighAnn

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If they were there as doctrine chasers that poo poo power,they would have coddled those poor poor souls that the mean Jesus whipped.
"We know only the devil whips people"
I really got to be quick around here. I jumped in when I should have walked by. Sorry to all.
 
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""Show me in Scripture where the Lord used violence to heal someone.""
You act like you are not referring to Wigglesworth.
I am calling you on your gossip column factoids.

You are so far into left field,it is like catching mother teresa in some comprimise and damning her.
 
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What claim did I make against Wigglesworth? Are you referring to him using violence to heal people?

That has never ever been up for debate. Critics and supporters all agree that he did.
So you spread the second hand gossip.
You never investigated your claim?
 
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I really got to be quick around here. I jumped in when I should have walked by. Sorry to all.
Oh,dont worry,they will have some nothing burger answer to your post.

Jesus has no authority around earth.
He left and took His power with him
 

PennEd

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So you spread the second hand gossip.
You never investigated your claim?
Tell ya what. If I show you accounts FROM SUPPORTERS that he punched people in an attempt to heal them, will you agree that he was not acting under the Holy Spirit, but rather from a malevolent spirit?
 
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Tell ya what. If I show you accounts FROM SUPPORTERS that he punched people in an attempt to heal them, will you agree that he was not acting under the Holy Spirit, but rather from a malevolent spirit?
Again you make the claim.
Prove it.
It is your gossip column claim.

You obviously can not prove it right?
 

PennEd

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Prove your claim.
Show us proof.
I'm sure I could show you video of him throwing a baby against the wall and you'd STILL call it "not proof" But here is a "Pastor", one of stonesoffire boys, that KNEW Wigglesworth, AND extols him as a GREAT guy, recount how he hit a stomach cancer patient so hard he killed him, but of course he comes back to life!
So I'll eagerly await your most heart felt appologies! LOl
 
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I'm sure I could show you video of him throwing a baby against the wall and you'd STILL call it "not proof" But here is a "Pastor", one of stonesoffire boys, that KNEW Wigglesworth, AND extols him as a GREAT guy, recount how he hit a stomach cancer patient so hard he killed him, but of course he comes back to life!
So I'll eagerly await your most heart felt appologies! LOl
I said for you to prove it. For you to stop getting your information from your cronies.
That is all.
Now you expect some apology?
For what?
Asking you to stop getting your skewed information?

Now you claim a guy gets healed of cancer and you just cant stand the circumstances.

Too funny how that works.
You got painted imto a corner with your gossip friend
 
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Tell ya what. If I show you accounts FROM SUPPORTERS that he punched people in an attempt to heal them, will you agree that he was not acting under the Holy Spirit, but rather from a malevolent spirit?
They got healed.
So you only prove your boggus point that the devil heals while God is powerless

How goofy is that?
 

PennEd

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I said for you to prove it. For you to stop getting your information from your cronies.
That is all.
Now you expect some apology?
For what?
Asking you to stop getting your skewed information?

Now you claim a guy gets healed of cancer and you just cant stand the circumstances.

Too funny how that works.
You got painted imto a corner with your gossip friend
Do you even live in reality? How do you surmise that I AM THE ONE painted in a corner!? LOL

This guy Sumrall is a SUPPORTER of Wigglesworth! He KNEW him.

We weren't talking about the veracity of the claim of the stomach cancer guy getting healed.
We were talking about the METHOD used.

Alright. There are VOLUMES of evidence that Wigglesworth used violence to "heal" people. Every once in a while I need to stop in here and pop the fantasy bubble that Wigglesworth was a good guy to be admired. Carry on with your delusion.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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God help us

all I can say is that what you believe will color everything you do. if you believe God has closed the book and the Bible is the last thing we will hear from Him until we die, then you will go OUT OF YOUR WAY to prove it because that is your reality

if you believe God has not changed and He has put life into our spirits and we are to walk according to His Spirit, then you will know that life is more than the 5 senses

while I don't agree with every thing written by every person who believes the 2nd option, I at least know that they know and have experienced some of what I have

there is a connection there I can never have with a cessationist and I could care less at this point, if you think I think, that somehow makes me an elitist

the connection is the Holy Spirit

we have a treasure in 'earthen vessels' that lifts us above mundane and the gravity and the sin filled world

I KNOW most cessationists do not have this. oh you may be saved, but you have missed much of what God intended
 
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Do you even live in reality? How do you surmise that I AM THE ONE painted in a corner!? LOL

This guy Sumrall is a SUPPORTER of Wigglesworth! He KNEW him.

We weren't talking about the veracity of the claim of the stomach cancer guy getting healed.
We were talking about the METHOD used.

Alright. There are VOLUMES of evidence that Wigglesworth used violence to "heal" people. Every once in a while I need to stop in here and pop the fantasy bubble that Wigglesworth was a good guy to be admired. Carry on with your delusion.
You now claim a man was healed but you just cant stand it.
You posted proof a man was healed.
My point was,once you step back,get a pure source you will be forced to poo poo ALL of what happened,ie the actual miracles.
If you would only investigate you will see the truth.

Yes you got busted.
Reframe it all you want.
Bottom line; now you got a little further out of your gossip mode.

Sure enough you got an entirely different picture of Wigglesworth
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Do you even live in reality? How do you surmise that I AM THE ONE painted in a corner!? LOL

This guy Sumrall is a SUPPORTER of Wigglesworth! He KNEW him.

We weren't talking about the veracity of the claim of the stomach cancer guy getting healed.
We were talking about the METHOD used.

Alright. There are VOLUMES of evidence that Wigglesworth used violence to "heal" people. Every once in a while I need to stop in here and pop the fantasy bubble that Wigglesworth was a good guy to be admired. Carry on with your delusion.

Wigglesworth is with Jesus.
 
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Do you even live in reality? How do you surmise that I AM THE ONE painted in a corner!? LOL

This guy Sumrall is a SUPPORTER of Wigglesworth! He KNEW him.

We weren't talking about the veracity of the claim of the stomach cancer guy getting healed.
We were talking about the METHOD used.

Alright. There are VOLUMES of evidence that Wigglesworth used violence to "heal" people. Every once in a while I need to stop in here and pop the fantasy bubble that Wigglesworth was a good guy to be admired. Carry on with your delusion.
All you proved is that you relied on your cronies and got owned with the actual testimonies.

But hey get resaturated with gossip.
It suits your deal better.
God has no power right?
 

stonesoffire

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Wow..

As my godly grandmother said, “ it will all come out in the wash”.

Who never spoke in tongues but told the Lord she would if He wanted her too. She was my hero.



1Co 8:1 Now concerning food offered to idols: We know that we all possess knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up.

1Co 8:2 If anyone thinks he really knows something, he has not yet learned it as he ought to know it.

1Co 8:3 But anyone who loves God is known by him.

I’m convinced of this one thing...we all love God.
 

wolfwint

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If God ever did do a miracle in your life or family who would you attribute it to since you are convinced the devil has all the power?
We are living in the last time, you agree? Maby you should take your bible and read what our Lord said about the last time. He mentioned that the devil will try to deceive even the electet.
With what?great signs and miracles. They looks like as from God, but in truth coming from the devil.
 

stonesoffire

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Wolf, the devil cannot imitate something that causes one to glorify Jesus, and love Father.
 

Dino246

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1My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

2So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;

3Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;

4If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;

5Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.

6For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

7He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.

8He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.

9Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.

10When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;

11Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:

12To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
I'm not sure what you're saying here. Quoting Scripture without commenting at all doesn't tell me what you are thinking.