Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

[delirious]

Please read these verses and tell me what they all have in common:

Matt 10:23, Matt 16:27-28, Matt 24:34, Mark 8:38-9:1, Mark 13:30, Luke 9:26-27, Luke 21:31-32, 1 Peter 4:7, James 5:8, 1 John 2:18, Rev 1:1, Rev 1:3, Rev 22:6, Rev 22:7, Rev 22:10, Rev 22:12, Rev 22:20.

Then we have these verses that use the Greek word "mello" (G3195 Strong's Concordance) in the present infinitive which always implies IMMINENCE. The word is often translated "will" in English because of the translators false presuppositions. It should be translated in English "about to". The verses are:

Rev 1:19, Acts 17:31, Acts 24:15, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Peter 5:1, James 2:12, Heb 10:27, Acts 28:6

Then you have Daniel. He is given a 70 weeks prophecy for his people and his city (Dan 9:24). Daniel Chapters 10-12 give details about that 70 weeks. At the end of that 70 weeks in Daniel 12 we find this:

Daniel 12:4, "seal up the book until the time of the end" Revelation 22:10 says, "Don't seal for the time is at hand"

Daniel 12:7, "when the power of the holy people is completely shattered all will be fulfilled" This occurred with the destruction of the temple in 70 AD.

Daniel 12:13, Daniel is told he will rise to his inheritance at the end of the days (see also Matt 25:34). Jesus said all who believed in Him He would raise on the last day (John 6:39,40,44,54) This was the last day of old covenant Israel in 70 AD and is what Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy is about. His people and their city.

And finally...Matt 5:17-18. Make sure you read that with Luke 21:22. Jesus came to fulfill everything written in the Law and Prophets. When all was fulfilled it would pass away. The book of Hebrews, written in the 60's AD, says the law was "ready to pass away" (Heb 8:13).

Jesus said not one jot or tittle could pass until everything was accomplished. This happened with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and the end of old covenant Israel. We have been living in the new heavens and earth (not a physical place) for 2,000 years. God bless you.

 

[Nehemiah6]

We have been living in the new heavens and earth (not a physical place) for 2,000 years.

If that is true then this earth would be free from all sin, evil, wickedness, evildoers, Satan, demons and evil spirits. But since it is becoming more and more ungodly and wicked every day, you have deliberately misrepresented everything.

People who mislead others will be held to strict account and will pay the price for deceiving others.

 

[dcontroversal]

Please read these verses and tell me what they all have in common:

Matt 10:23, Matt 16:27-28, Matt 24:34, Mark 8:38-9:1, Mark 13:30, Luke 9:26-27, Luke 21:31-32, 1 Peter 4:7, James 5:8, 1 John 2:18, Rev 1:1, Rev 1:3, Rev 22:6, Rev 22:7, Rev 22:10, Rev 22:12, Rev 22:20.

Then we have these verses that use the Greek word "mello" (G3195 Strong's Concordance) in the present infinitive which always implies IMMINENCE. The word is often translated "will" in English because of the translators false presuppositions. It should be translated in English "about to". The verses are:

Rev 1:19, Acts 17:31, Acts 24:15, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Peter 5:1, James 2:12, Heb 10:27, Acts 28:6

Then you have Daniel. He is given a 70 weeks prophecy for his people and his city (Dan 9:24). Daniel Chapters 10-12 give details about that 70 weeks. At the end of that 70 weeks in Daniel 12 we find this:

Daniel 12:4, "seal up the book until the time of the end" Revelation 22:10 says, "Don't seal for the time is at hand"

Daniel 12:7, "when the power of the holy people is completely shattered all will be fulfilled" This occurred with the destruction of the temple in 70 AD.

Daniel 12:13, Daniel is told he will rise to his inheritance at the end of the days (see also Matt 25:34). Jesus said all who believed in Him He would raise on the last day (John 6:39,40,44,54) This was the last day of old covenant Israel in 70 AD and is what Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy is about. His people and their city.

And finally...Matt 5:17-18. Make sure you read that with Luke 21:22. Jesus came to fulfill everything written in the Law and Prophets. When all was fulfilled it would pass away. The book of Hebrews, written in the 60's AD, says the law was "ready to pass away" (Heb 8:13).

Jesus said not one jot or tittle could pass until everything was accomplished. This happened with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and the end of old covenant Israel. We have been living in the new heavens and earth (not a physical place) for 2,000 years. God bless you.

Not quite...........have a piece of cake!!!!

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

I've mentioned before that "mello" can mean "certain to/ sure to" (as in, 'prophesied to' take place).

But to your point:

Then we have these verses that use the Greek word "mello" (G3195 Strong's Concordance) in the present infinitive which always implies IMMINENCE. The word is often translated "will" in English because of the translators false presuppositions. It should be translated in English "about to". The verses are:

Rev 1:19, Acts 17:31, Acts 24:15, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Peter 5:1, James 2:12, Heb 10:27, Acts 28:6

The only verses of that LIST ^ that I see as "Present INFINITIVE Active" are:

--Acts 24:15 (this one being about their [the Jews'/Israel's] "expectation" of a resurrection, both of the just and of the unjust... the point being [in this context], why is Paul being "tried" for also holding to that belief/expectation--I don't think the Jews/Israel had a better idea of its TIMING than he did, do you?)

--and Acts 28:6

Two verses out of the eight you listed (are "infinitive").


The others are (instead):

Present Participle Active:

--2 Timothy 4:1
--Hebrews 10:27
--James 2:12
--1 Peter 5:1

[and]

Present Indicative Active:
--Acts 17:31
--Revelation 1:19

[of those you listed]


IMO/view, "imminent" [idea of] can mean... you have no clue WHEN it's going to take place (just that it IS GOING to [for it has been prophesied to take place], you just are not aware of anything that must precede ____ [insert whatever has been prophesied to take place])… and "mello," as I understand it, doesn't carry the idea of "imminence" just "certain to/sure to" (apparently even in the "infinitive" used in Acts 24:15, though I do think they [Jews/Israel (the context)] didn't really grasp "WHEN" it would take place). That's how I'm seeing this.

 

[iamsoandso]

Please read these verses and tell me what they all have in common:

Matt 10:23, Matt 16:27-28, Matt 24:34, Mark 8:38-9:1, Mark 13:30, Luke 9:26-27, Luke 21:31-32, 1 Peter 4:7, James 5:8, 1 John 2:18, Rev 1:1, Rev 1:3, Rev 22:6, Rev 22:7, Rev 22:10, Rev 22:12, Rev 22:20.

Then we have these verses that use the Greek word "mello" (G3195 Strong's Concordance) in the present infinitive which always implies IMMINENCE. The word is often translated "will" in English because of the translators false presuppositions. It should be translated in English "about to". The verses are:

Rev 1:19, Acts 17:31, Acts 24:15, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Peter 5:1, James 2:12, Heb 10:27, Acts 28:6

Then you have Daniel. He is given a 70 weeks prophecy for his people and his city (Dan 9:24). Daniel Chapters 10-12 give details about that 70 weeks. At the end of that 70 weeks in Daniel 12 we find this:

Daniel 12:4, "seal up the book until the time of the end" Revelation 22:10 says, "Don't seal for the time is at hand"

Daniel 12:7, "when the power of the holy people is completely shattered all will be fulfilled" This occurred with the destruction of the temple in 70 AD.

Daniel 12:13, Daniel is told he will rise to his inheritance at the end of the days (see also Matt 25:34). Jesus said all who believed in Him He would raise on the last day (John 6:39,40,44,54) This was the last day of old covenant Israel in 70 AD and is what Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy is about. His people and their city.

And finally...Matt 5:17-18. Make sure you read that with Luke 21:22. Jesus came to fulfill everything written in the Law and Prophets. When all was fulfilled it would pass away. The book of Hebrews, written in the 60's AD, says the law was "ready to pass away" (Heb 8:13).

Jesus said not one jot or tittle could pass until everything was accomplished. This happened with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and the end of old covenant Israel. We have been living in the new heavens and earth (not a physical place) for 2,000 years. God bless you.

lol, lets talk about it for a while,start with us not needing to worry about the man of sin rising up in our future(show us it's fulfillment prior to ad70)...Show us who it was who took the mark and bought and sold with it prior to ad70 and was destroyed when Jesus returned.

 

[MattforJesus]

One could write a lot concerning the end time.

But the 70 weeks could of not been fulfilled in 70 A.D. according to scriptures.

The Bible says that Israel has 70 weeks, 490 years, to make an end of sins, and bring in everlasting righteousness, and anoint the most holy who is Jesus.

That means that at the end of the 70 weeks Israel as a nation must be in the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

Which the 490 years starts before Jesus appears for Israel as a nation was not in the truth, for if they were in the truth the Roman Empire would of not been able to have control over them as promised by God if they abide in the truth that no enemy can go against her and prosper.

Jesus came unto His own, but His own did not receive Him, so Israel as a nation did not accept Jesus, so the 70 weeks could of not been fulfilled.

God gave Israel time to repent and acknowledge Jesus, and they did not, so they were overthrown in 70 A.D., and scattered in to the nations, so the 70 weeks could of not been fulfilled then.

The Jews were then scattered in to the nations, and could not of come to the truth as a nation to accept Jesus, so the 70 weeks could of not been fulfilled during that time.

Israel was established as a nation in 1948, but they were not in the truth, and today they are not in the truth, so the 70 weeks could of not been fulfilled.

Which the Bible says that Israel is blinded in part, which means the majority accepts the Old Testament, but does not accept Jesus, and the New Testament, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in, when salvation is no longer available to them, and so all Israel shall be saved.

So the 70 weeks could of not been fulfilled for Israel is still blinded in part for the Gentiles still have salvation offered to them.

Which 69 weeks have passed, with one more week to go, which will be the time that God causes all people who do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom, the New Age Christ, in Revelation 13, and brings Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

Which the disciples asked Jesus if He would restore the kingdom to them at that time, and He said the Father will do it in His own time, and do not worry about it but go preach the Gospel.

Which God said that He will gather the whole house of Jacob, all 12 tribes, back to Israel, and they shall know the LORD their God from that time forward, and He will never hide His face from them again.

Which this cannot be a past prophesy for Israel would be in the truth from that time forward, and would be in the truth today, so it is a future prophesy.

Israel has 70 weeks to make an end of sins, and bring in everlasting righteousness, and anoint the most holy who is Jesus, but we see they have not done that, so the 70 weeks could of not been fulfilled.

The man of sin, New Age Christ, will establish peace in the Middle East between the Jews and the Palestinians, and it will pave the way for all Jews to go to Israel, for the Gentile nations will see to it, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land, which eventually the devil will use him to try to deceive them, but God means it for good towards the Jews.

The Jews will rebuild their temple, and go back to animal sacrifices for they are blinded in part with no hassle from the Palestinians, and the Jews will split Jerusalem with the Palestinians.

The nations will come together and say Peace and safety as they try to establish peace on earth, and the 7 years period will begin.

The world will be split in to ten sections with a leader in each section, the 10 horn kingdom, and the new age movement interpretation of all religions as a unified religious system, which God warns the saints of the new age movement false interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and they can still evolve provided by the New Age Christ, and the time that the world will not endure sound doctrine, but want to hear it according to their own lusts, evolution through nature to be greater, and spiritual.

Repentance, and salvation, is still available to the world during the first three and one half years, and all governments will come together, even the Arab governments, for governments can be persuaded, and people put in place that cooperate, but the people of those Arab nations, and Islam, will say it is an insult to Allah, and Islam will clash with the world.

That war is so terrible as to pluck up 3 horns by the roots, which is the Arab nations, and one third of the world perishes mostly in the Arab nations, that the world accepts the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth, for the ten horn kingdom failed.

In the middle of the 7 years period all people who do not love God, and keep the testimony of Jesus, will be given strong delusion, deceived by a devil, to follow the beast, and when they take the mark of the beast, then repentance, and salvation, is no longer available to them, and the fulness of the Gentiles have come in.

During the last three and one half years God will send 2 witnesses to Israel to turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah, and the Jews that know the truth will instruct the other Jews.

God said He is going to gather all nations together against Jerusalem to battle, and half the city shall be taken, and half the city shall be saved, and He will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people, and all who burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, although the whole earth is gathered together against her.

At the end of the last three and one half years Israel will be in the truth that Jesus is their Messiah, and the world will go against Jerusalem, and half the city is taken, the half of the Palestinians as they run over them in an attempt to get to the Jews, but are stopped by Jesus when they get to the Jews.

Which Jesus will descend the same way He ascended which He was standing on the Mount of Olives, and when He steps down on the Mount of Olives the mountain will split, and the Jews will run in to the split away from their enemies, and to shield them from the glory of Jesus as He melts the flesh off their bones, which He shall destroy the man of sin by the brightness of His coming.

The 70 weeks is not fulfilled.

Also concerning Daniel 12 that the book is sealed until the time of the end means that nobody can understand it until the time of the end, and then it is unsealed, for many shall run to and fro, advanced travel, and knowledge shall increase, advanced technology, which then the saints can see, hear, and know, what is going on in the earth, and how it is possible for them to come together, for they can travel, and communicate with each other around the earth.

And when the Bible says that when they shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people all things shall be finished, it states that it is for three and one half years, which would be the last three and one half years, but it cannot be talking about the Jews for they are all in the nation of Israel, and are not going anywhere, and the 2 witnesses are causing fire to come down upon people that would try to hinder them from witnessing to the Jews.

And also Revelation chapter 12 says that Israel is protected from physical attack for the 7 years period.

In Daniel 12 when they shall have scattered the power of the holy people then all things are finished, which then comes the end when the Son shall have delivered up the kingdom to the Father.

Which Paul said the saints cannot be gathered unto Christ until the man of sin claims to be God.

But then he makes war against the saints, and prevails against them, and they shall be given in to his hands for three and one half years, and when he scatters their power then all things are finished.

Which the beast makes war against the saints worldwide, and all the Jews are in Israel, so the man of sin is making war against Gentile saints all around the world, which is why it is the greatest persecution ever against the truth, for it is worldwide, and in every nation.

But Israel is protected from physical attack for the 7 years period, and the 2 witnesses are going against anyone that would try to hinder them in the power of God with plagues against them.

The 70 weeks has not been fulfilled, and the last week is the time that God causes all people who do not love Him to follow the beast, and brings Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah, and at the end of the 7 years the 70th week is fulfilled.

 

[delirious]

If that is true then this earth would be free from all sin, evil, wickedness, evildoers, Satan, demons and evil spirits. But since it is becoming more and more ungodly and wicked every day, you have deliberately misrepresented everything.

So you accused me that I misrepresented everything and will be held strictly accountable but you didn't even make an effort to address what those verses say. Dozens of them by Jesus, Peter, James, John and Paul all saying the same thing. You don't understand the kingdom and that is why you don't understand eschatology. Either way, I'm not offended. I encounter tons of Christians exactly like you. You simply don't understand and you don't like what these verses say.

 

[delirious]

lol, lets talk about it for a while,start with us not needing to worry about the man of sin rising up in our future(show us it's fulfillment prior to ad70)...Show us who it was who took the mark and bought and sold with it prior to ad70 and was destroyed when Jesus returned.

You have assumed that the "man of sin" is in the future. Why? I don't know who the man of sin was in the time leading up to and during the siege of Jerusalem. I don't need to know. You are going to invalidate all those verses I presented that clearly say the same thing because you can't identify the man of sin? That makes no sense.

Same thing goes with the Mark of the Beast. Ezekiel 8 & 9 is about the destruction of the first temple. It talks about a mark and that is why John has the comparison in Revelation. Revelation is about the destruction of the second temple. You want to make it a literal mark that has to do with physical buying and selling and it isn't. Just like the first Mark in Ezekiel 8 & 9 is not physical.

 

[iamsoandso]

You have assumed that the "man of sin" is in the future. Why? I don't know who the man of sin was in the time leading up to and during the siege of Jerusalem. I don't need to know. You are going to invalidate all those verses I presented that clearly say the same thing because you can't identify the man of sin? That makes no sense.

Same thing goes with the Mark of the Beast. Ezekiel 8 & 9 is about the destruction of the first temple. It talks about a mark and that is why John has the comparison in Revelation. Revelation is about the destruction of the second temple. You want to make it a literal mark that has to do with physical buying and selling and it isn't. Just like the first Mark in Ezekiel 8 & 9 is not physical.

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-15.htm the beast literally kills the ones in Scripture who don't worship the image,,,and ps I know you don't know who the MoS was prior to and leading up to ad70 but your the one saying it's fulfilled so the burden of proofs on you,lol

 

[delirious]

Two verses out of the eight you listed (are "infinitive").

No. This is what happens when you don't understand Greek and go to Biblehub. I'm not trying to be insulting so I apologize if I sound that way. When "mello" is combined with a verb in the "infinitive" it implies imminence. All 8 are in the present infinitive. Those verses are saying the same as the rest of the verses I listed are saying. The kingdom was imminent and would begin at the temple's destruction when the law passed away.

Christ's second coming was through the Romans and He says in Matt 22:7 that they were His armies. That is the same way the Father always came in the Old Testament. Unseen. Invisible. That's why Jesus talks about coming in the glory of the Father with all the holy angels. Notice the next verse in Matt 22:8 it says the wedding, the same wedding/marriage supper of the Lamb in Rev 19, was READY at the time of Jerusalem and the temple's destruction.

 

[iamsoandso]

No. This is what happens when you don't understand Greek and go to Biblehub. I'm not trying to be insulting so I apologize if I sound that way. When "mello" is combined with a verb in the "infinitive" it implies imminence. All 8 are in the present infinitive. Those verses are saying the same as the rest of the verses I listed are saying. The kingdom was imminent and would begin at the temple's destruction when the law passed away.

Christ's second coming was through the Romans and He says in Matt 22:7 that they were His armies. That is the same way the Father always came in the Old Testament. Unseen. Invisible. That's why Jesus talks about coming in the glory of the Father with all the holy angels. Notice the next verse in Matt 22:8 it says the wedding, the same wedding/marriage supper of the Lamb in Rev 19, was READY at the time of Jerusalem and the temple's destruction.

where did you study Greek,do you have any credentials,diplomas or certificates?

 

[JamOn]

Please read these verses and tell me what they all have in common:

Matt 10:23, Matt 16:27-28, Matt 24:34, Mark 8:38-9:1, Mark 13:30, Luke 9:26-27, Luke 21:31-32, 1 Peter 4:7, James 5:8, 1 John 2:18, Rev 1:1, Rev 1:3, Rev 22:6, Rev 22:7, Rev 22:10, Rev 22:12, Rev 22:20.

Then we have these verses that use the Greek word "mello" (G3195 Strong's Concordance) in the present infinitive which always implies IMMINENCE. The word is often translated "will" in English because of the translators false presuppositions. It should be translated in English "about to". The verses are:

Rev 1:19, Acts 17:31, Acts 24:15, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Peter 5:1, James 2:12, Heb 10:27, Acts 28:6

Then you have Daniel. He is given a 70 weeks prophecy for his people and his city (Dan 9:24). Daniel Chapters 10-12 give details about that 70 weeks. At the end of that 70 weeks in Daniel 12 we find this:

Daniel 12:4, "seal up the book until the time of the end" Revelation 22:10 says, "Don't seal for the time is at hand"

Daniel 12:7, "when the power of the holy people is completely shattered all will be fulfilled" This occurred with the destruction of the temple in 70 AD.

Daniel 12:13, Daniel is told he will rise to his inheritance at the end of the days (see also Matt 25:34). Jesus said all who believed in Him He would raise on the last day (John 6:39,40,44,54) This was the last day of old covenant Israel in 70 AD and is what Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy is about. His people and their city.

And finally...Matt 5:17-18. Make sure you read that with Luke 21:22. Jesus came to fulfill everything written in the Law and Prophets. When all was fulfilled it would pass away. The book of Hebrews, written in the 60's AD, says the law was "ready to pass away" (Heb 8:13).

Jesus said not one jot or tittle could pass until everything was accomplished. This happened with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and the end of old covenant Israel. We have been living in the new heavens and earth (not a physical place) for 2,000 years. God bless you.

Interesting thread, I’ve looked into that word Mello Yello minus the yello. I’ve read it appears you are correct for the most part about it mistranslated, though some bibles have acts 24:15 translated as about to be but still that seems not happened yet. and mello is in 108 verses, seems it was used in different ways some might be the same the English version as will.

Berean Literal Bible
having a hope in God, which they themselves also await, that there is about to be a resurrection, both of the just and of the unjust.

 

[delirious]

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-15.htm the beast literally kills the ones in Scripture who don't worship the image,,,and ps I know you don't know who the MoS was prior to and leading up to ad70 but your the one saying it's fulfilled so the burden of proofs on you,lol

You are trying to invalidate dozens of clear Scriptures about when the kingdom would come with what you think Rev 13 means. That is up to you.

 

[iamsoandso]

Lets cut to the chase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_115#/media/File:P._Oxy._LXVI_4499.jpg read this to me and I'll believe you know Greek the first line in the fragment ends with the first four letters of the word arithmos.

 

[iamsoandso]

You are trying to invalidate dozens of clear Scriptures about when the kingdom would come with what you think Rev 13 means. That is up to you.

And your trying to get us to believe this is all past tense based on your gut instinct and telling us you don't know how it was fulfilled before ad70 because you don't know who or how it was fulfilled...

 

[JamOn]

Hmm when did the resurrection of the just and unjust happened?

 

[dcontroversal]

And your trying to get us to believe this is all past tense based on your gut instinct and telling us you don't know how it was fulfilled before ad70 because you don't know who or how it was fulfilled...

Good luck...............If the end came and went almost 2000 years ago we can all chunk the bible into the proverbial trash can

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Christ's second coming was through the Romans and He says in Matt 22:7 that they were His armies. That is the same way the Father always came in the Old Testament. Unseen. Invisible. That's why Jesus talks about coming in the glory of the Father with all the holy angels.

Well, we at least agree SOMEWHAT on verse 7... that it speaks of the 70ad events (JUST LIKE Lk21:23,20 are!)


But Lk21:32's word "ALL" INCLUDES the events of v.24 "and they shall be led away captive into all the nations" (not to mention that verse 12 says that all the 70ad events [vv.12-24a (w/ pt b following on from there), all that] must take place "BEFORE ALL" the beginning of birth PANGS just described in vv.8-11!)

Notice the next verse in Matt 22:8 it says the wedding, the same wedding/marriage supper of the Lamb in Rev 19, was READY at the time of Jerusalem and the temple's destruction.

I disagree that it's referring to "the wedding/MARRIAGE," but instead "the wedding FEASTS/CELEBRATIONS/SUPPER"... (the "INVITATION" for THAT).

So verse 8 (where we disagree primarily), where it says "THEN SAITH HE to his servants," I see to correlate with what Jesus did AFTER the 70ad events... that is, IN the LATER 95ad writing of "[The] Revelation," where verse 1 says, "[The] Revelation of Jesus Christ, WHICH GOD GAVE UNTO HIM [unto Jesus], TO SHEW UNTO His servants [see 7:3 (the 144,000 "servants of our God")] things which must come to pass [i.e. the "future" aspects of the Book (like 1:19c/4:1)] IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" NOT adverbs like "quickLY, or immediateLY, or soon! That means the "TO SHEW" things (not the "write" things!! "SHEW" only fits with the "FUTURE" aspects, not with the 1:19a,b things...and the 1:13 "in the midst of the seven candlesticks" thing).

Verse 8 does not speak of "the Church which is His body" as the ones DOING this "INVITING" (Revelation 19:9's PLURALS is distinct from 19:7's SINGULAR [Bride/Wife and the related "MARRIAGE" to same!])… 19:9 is not "aorist" in the sense that 19:7 IS... the only thing that is "aorist" IN VERSE 19 is the "[the guests] having been invited" (THAT is what will have been taking place ON THE EARTH all throughout the 7 yrs that LEAD UP TO His Second Coming to the earth, FOR the commencement of the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom, AKA "the wedding FEAST/SUPPER [on the earth, upon His "RETURN" there]" and where these various passages in the gospels COVERING "the wedding FEAST/SUPPER" / the "G347 - shall sit down [around a table/at a meal]" (like Matt8:11 and parallel) pick up the NEXT SCENE in the chronology (like Lk12:36-37,38,40,42-44 "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding" [as an ALREADY-WED Bridegroom "WITH [G4862 - UNIONED-with]" His already-wed "Bride/Wife [SINGULAR]"] THEN the meal (v.38, etc)… The "GUESTS [PLURAL (pertaining to the "FEAST/SUPPER")]" are not "the BRIDE/WIFE [SINGULAR (pertaining to the "MARRIAGE" itself!)]"... blurring these together is where most take a major mis-step in interpretation and understanding...

 

[iamsoandso]

Lets cut to the chase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_115#/media/File:P._Oxy._LXVI_4499.jpg read this to me and I'll believe you know Greek the first line in the fragment ends with the first four letters of the word arithmos.

The second word in the fragment is written in nomina sacra(Latin meaning,means sacred names) so it's not really a word but kind of like it's abbreviated(line above it denotes that) because they saw that things "sacred"(Gods name,Cross ect.) were not to be spoken aloud so were written without the whole word,example(G-d) in older text types. Any way the second words not a word it's an abbreviation (see ANOY) in the link,lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra

 

[delirious]

where did you study Greek,do you have any credentials,diplomas or certificates?

Does it matter what my credentials are? There are men with doctorates in Theology and Greek and they still don't understand eschatology as well as many other doctrines in the Bible. I don't even come close to understanding everything that is written in the Bible. But on this one subject there is no doubt whatsoever that what I said is true. The Scripture makes it very clear and it is ubiquitous throughout the New Testament. Every major character and every author in the NT says it.