What happens if you don't tithe?
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The biblical perspective you need is found in Galatians, Romans, and Hebrews, along with other places.
What is tithing but part of the Mosaic Law? It is one of the many commands given to Moses for Israel to support the Levites and priests who had no land of their own. It was payable in agricultural produce only, not in cash.
The command to tithe was never given to the Church. Pay your bills; those are commitments that you have already made. Far be it to take what rightly belongs to someone else and give it to the Lord, unless in a specific case at a specific time, He is telling you otherwise because He has a specific plan in mind.
Be generous as the Lord has been generous to you: support the local assembly where you are fed, and support the work of the kingdom of God in your area and around the world. But don't embrace legalism by trying to warp the old covenant commands into works righteousness for the Christian.
What is tithing but part of the Mosaic Law? It is one of the many commands given to Moses for Israel to support the Levites and priests who had no land of their own. It was payable in agricultural produce only, not in cash.
The command to tithe was never given to the Church. Pay your bills; those are commitments that you have already made. Far be it to take what rightly belongs to someone else and give it to the Lord, unless in a specific case at a specific time, He is telling you otherwise because He has a specific plan in mind.
Be generous as the Lord has been generous to you: support the local assembly where you are fed, and support the work of the kingdom of God in your area and around the world. But don't embrace legalism by trying to warp the old covenant commands into works righteousness for the Christian.
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What this guy said. Is all there is to say about it.
Save one thing; as long as you aren't legalistic about it a tenth is a good number to to set as a goal. If we can do more great. If we have to work toward being generous and freedom from materialism and debt and all the pit falls of materialist money based sin and temptation. Setting a goal is a good way to become disciplined. I personally think a tenth is a good number to attain to. If you aren't there yet do what you can best do with a good conscience toward God. It's best to pray and seek what the Lord would have you do in the matter before you do anything. The Lord will bless an honest and obedient heart.
Save one thing; as long as you aren't legalistic about it a tenth is a good number to to set as a goal. If we can do more great. If we have to work toward being generous and freedom from materialism and debt and all the pit falls of materialist money based sin and temptation. Setting a goal is a good way to become disciplined. I personally think a tenth is a good number to attain to. If you aren't there yet do what you can best do with a good conscience toward God. It's best to pray and seek what the Lord would have you do in the matter before you do anything. The Lord will bless an honest and obedient heart.
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Pay your bills always. Keep idn mind that tithing in th eTheocracy of the first Israel was taken yearly out of the profits made and not on the principle. Tithing, as in the Word has never existed with me aside from those times. The word is mis-used in place of asking for donations to the assembly(ies).
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Giving to people is fun but, giving to the Lord is outrageous FUN!!! I highly recommend tithing 10% to the Lord with joy and thanksgiving for all He has done for us! He loooooooooves a cheerful giver! You will never be the same.........................Tithe! I dare ya! 
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I appreciate your encouraging attitude, but I would encourage you to look carefully at the "doctrine" of tithing to see if it stands up to scrutiny. Tithing was never voluntary in Scripture; Christian giving is. The two are absolutely distinct.
Are we so far removed from the "childlike" love for God, our Father?
Can't we just give our wonderful loving Father a tenth of what He gives us?
Can't we just say with our money, "Father, thank You, I love you, too!"
Why make it a law? Love is NOT a law.........Love is HIGH above laws.............
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Give what you can from your abundance. the tythe was from the increase not from their total flock births.
So after you paid your bills give to the kingdom happily.
but take care to remind yourself what tithe are fo
Deuteronomy 14:22-23 (KJV)
22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
It was for you and your family to eat and have a great time when in Jerusalem, The levites got a portion too. so they could party.
Remember in old testament all the tithes went to Jerusalem and if it was too far to go you had to sell your tithe of your flock and spend it on whatever yuo wanted to .
Deuteronomy 14:24-26 (KJV)
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
Do not be deceived by so called Pastors calling people to give to the kingdom, that is not the purpose of tithes.
However we should take collections for the poor
1 Corinthians 16:1-3 (KJV)
1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.
Also Offerings to help meet the needs of the ministry are separate again.
1 Corinthians 9:11-12 (KJV)
11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
1 Corinthians 9:14 (KJV)
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
Philippians 4:15-19 (KJV)
15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
16 For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.
17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
18 But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God.
19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
So in summary . It is not tithing you do.
Collections for poor are needed
Support of the ministers is needed.
In the end how much you give is upto you as it is clearly stated. A happy giver is what pleases God.
So after you paid your bills give to the kingdom happily.
but take care to remind yourself what tithe are fo
Deuteronomy 14:22-23 (KJV)
22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
It was for you and your family to eat and have a great time when in Jerusalem, The levites got a portion too. so they could party.
Remember in old testament all the tithes went to Jerusalem and if it was too far to go you had to sell your tithe of your flock and spend it on whatever yuo wanted to .
Deuteronomy 14:24-26 (KJV)
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
Do not be deceived by so called Pastors calling people to give to the kingdom, that is not the purpose of tithes.
However we should take collections for the poor
1 Corinthians 16:1-3 (KJV)
1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.
Also Offerings to help meet the needs of the ministry are separate again.
1 Corinthians 9:11-12 (KJV)
11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
1 Corinthians 9:14 (KJV)
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
Philippians 4:15-19 (KJV)
15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
16 For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.
17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
18 But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God.
19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
So in summary . It is not tithing you do.
Collections for poor are needed
Support of the ministers is needed.
In the end how much you give is upto you as it is clearly stated. A happy giver is what pleases God.
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I sense "fear" in all your questions............perfect love cast out all fear.
Answer all of "fear's" questions with love. By so doing, you will cast out fear!
Q: Does the LORD our Father in Heaven rebuke the devourer (Satan) if I will not tithe? Malachi 3:11
A: First, the Blood of Yeshua/Jesus reigns supremely over all believers - we have no sin. We do not fear ANYTHING Satan can throw at us - even tithing. WORKS are no longer under the microscope. However, our HEARTS are under the microscope. God is looking for faith in Him and love for Him. God is dealing with our hearts now, not our sin. Sin has been dealt with and "It is finished."
Q: Will I be cursed?
A: How can God curse someone He has blessed? You will not be cursed. However, you will miss a blessing of God's favor because tithing is an opportunity for all believers to say "Thank You and I love You, too!" to the Father. It's acknowledging that He has provided and blessed us and in return, we are saying "Thank You, and I love You, too!"
Q: Should I tithe or pay my bills first?
A: Definitely tithe FIRST! Seek FIRST the Kingdom of God and all these things will be added to you. Don't be afraid. Give God the FIRST part, He will settle ALL your accounts. Trust Him. He is faithful.
Looking for Biblical perspective...................
God is love. What would love do? Love would love. Love loves to give.
Answer all of "fear's" questions with love. By so doing, you will cast out fear!
Q: Does the LORD our Father in Heaven rebuke the devourer (Satan) if I will not tithe? Malachi 3:11
A: First, the Blood of Yeshua/Jesus reigns supremely over all believers - we have no sin. We do not fear ANYTHING Satan can throw at us - even tithing. WORKS are no longer under the microscope. However, our HEARTS are under the microscope. God is looking for faith in Him and love for Him. God is dealing with our hearts now, not our sin. Sin has been dealt with and "It is finished."
Q: Will I be cursed?
A: How can God curse someone He has blessed? You will not be cursed. However, you will miss a blessing of God's favor because tithing is an opportunity for all believers to say "Thank You and I love You, too!" to the Father. It's acknowledging that He has provided and blessed us and in return, we are saying "Thank You, and I love You, too!"
Q: Should I tithe or pay my bills first?
A: Definitely tithe FIRST! Seek FIRST the Kingdom of God and all these things will be added to you. Don't be afraid. Give God the FIRST part, He will settle ALL your accounts. Trust Him. He is faithful.
Looking for Biblical perspective...................
God is love. What would love do? Love would love. Love loves to give.
again you are combining the tithe and the offering and the collections.
One is not the other.
this thread is about the TITHE and the LAW behind it.
I used scriptures to say there are other reasons to give money.
Sorry if my bad typing and misalignment of paragraphs caused you to think otherwise.
One is not the other.
this thread is about the TITHE and the LAW behind it.
I used scriptures to say there are other reasons to give money.
Sorry if my bad typing and misalignment of paragraphs caused you to think otherwise.
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Hello Robertt,
Thank you for all your scriptures! They are wonderful! Sometimes, we get bogged down in the scriptures and miss the truth of God's love. Yeshua/Jesus - God's Love manifested for us is the measuring stick. ALWAYS look for God's Love.........precious! Everything God does equals His Love.
God bless you and enjoy your journey!
Thank you for all your scriptures! They are wonderful! Sometimes, we get bogged down in the scriptures and miss the truth of God's love. Yeshua/Jesus - God's Love manifested for us is the measuring stick. ALWAYS look for God's Love.........precious! Everything God does equals His Love.
God bless you and enjoy your journey!
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Tithing as commanded in the law is for the Theocratic state of Israel. It cannot be accomplished anywhere els.
Now if you mean supporting your assembly and/or donating to the assembly for its upkeep and care of the flock, that is always welcomed and good, but donot call it tithing uless you havee a country that is lead by a human high priest with all the dtrappings. You do not but when we are with our High Priest the need will no longer exist either.
Now if you mean supporting your assembly and/or donating to the assembly for its upkeep and care of the flock, that is always welcomed and good, but donot call it tithing uless you havee a country that is lead by a human high priest with all the dtrappings. You do not but when we are with our High Priest the need will no longer exist either.
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Malachi 1:1 - The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi. Malachi 3:8 “Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How are we robbing you?’ “In tithes and offerings. 9 You are under a curse—your whole nation—because you are robbing me. The whole nation of Israel under the Old Covenant.
Many churches teach that Christians are obligated to give a minimum of 10% of their income to their church. Others teach that preachers of these churches are turning the 10% tithe in the Old Testament for Israel into a monetary, legalistic prescription for Christians under the New Covenant. I even once heard a Pastor make a challenge to his congregation to give 10% of their income for 90 days and if God does not bless them then he will give them their money back.
In 2 Corinthians 9:5-7 we read: Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren to go to you ahead of time, and prepare your generous gift beforehand, which you had previously promised, that it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a grudging obligation. But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
I don't see a "specific percentage" given anywhere for Christians to give "under the New Covenant," but I certainly believe in giving and not just to our church. I also believe that everything we own belongs to God and we certainly can't out give God.
Many churches teach that Christians are obligated to give a minimum of 10% of their income to their church. Others teach that preachers of these churches are turning the 10% tithe in the Old Testament for Israel into a monetary, legalistic prescription for Christians under the New Covenant. I even once heard a Pastor make a challenge to his congregation to give 10% of their income for 90 days and if God does not bless them then he will give them their money back.
In 2 Corinthians 9:5-7 we read: Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren to go to you ahead of time, and prepare your generous gift beforehand, which you had previously promised, that it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a grudging obligation. But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
I don't see a "specific percentage" given anywhere for Christians to give "under the New Covenant," but I certainly believe in giving and not just to our church. I also believe that everything we own belongs to God and we certainly can't out give God.
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You are correct. I thought about this event when I woke up. I was thinking, and should have said, "Under the Law...".
What you describe is not "tithing" though. It's a loving response to a generous God. When a Christian uses the word, "tithe" (or derivative) they usually mean (and are heard to mean) mandatory contribution of ten percent of one's monetary income to one's local church. That simply isn't taught in Scripture... anywhere. First, because tithing under the Law was not voluntary, and second, because the contributions were animals and agricultural produce, not cash. If an Israelite wanted to contribute cash instead, he had to add one-fifth of the value o the goods so replaced, making it 12%, not ten (See Leviticus 27).
I am in favour of generous giving, because Scripture does teach Christians to give generously. However, there isn't a shred of Scripture that teaches Christians must give ten percent of their income to their local church. By all means give, but don't inadvertently teach others to give in a way that Scripture doesn't support!
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