Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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There goes any hope of my being a Bible translator. 
Only joking.
I tried to put the whole verse into modern English, but you did better. I have incorporated your translation into mine, but tis a poor attempt. Back to the KJV
Isaiah wrote “I WAS RECKONED AMONG THE TRANSGRESSORS” and so would bear the sins of many while making intercession for them.” In fulfilment of this prophesy I need you to buy two swords.
The prophesy is in found in Isa 53:12.
Only joking.I tried to put the whole verse into modern English, but you did better. I have incorporated your translation into mine, but tis a poor attempt. Back to the KJV
Isaiah wrote “I WAS RECKONED AMONG THE TRANSGRESSORS” and so would bear the sins of many while making intercession for them.” In fulfilment of this prophesy I need you to buy two swords.
The prophesy is in found in Isa 53:12.
There goes any hope of my being a Bible translator. Only joking.
I tried to put the whole verse into modern English, but you did better. I have incorporated your translation into mine, but tis a poor attempt. Back to the KJV
Isaiah wrote “I WAS RECKONED AMONG THE TRANSGRESSORS” and so would bear the sins of many while making intercession for them.” In fulfilment of this prophesy I need you to buy two swords.
The prophesy is in found in Isa 53:12.
Only joking.I tried to put the whole verse into modern English, but you did better. I have incorporated your translation into mine, but tis a poor attempt. Back to the KJV
Isaiah wrote “I WAS RECKONED AMONG THE TRANSGRESSORS” and so would bear the sins of many while making intercession for them.” In fulfilment of this prophesy I need you to buy two swords.
The prophesy is in found in Isa 53:12.
You are correct regarding the events of the day and no fault was found in Him. So how was Jesus to be numbered among the wicked according to prophesy?
It was by association. Dr. Lightfoot tells us the sword (the actual physical sword) is symbolic of those who transgress the law by breaking the 6th commandment. So in this way, even though Jesus was innocent, he would be falsely numbered among the wicked because his disciples carried swords. Thus fulfilling Isaiah's prophesy.
It was by association. Dr. Lightfoot tells us the sword (the actual physical sword) is symbolic of those who transgress the law by breaking the 6th commandment. So in this way, even though Jesus was innocent, he would be falsely numbered among the wicked because his disciples carried swords. Thus fulfilling Isaiah's prophesy.
Having no idea so going off reading others points of view, I find that no one agrees with what this means. I myself like the interpretation that life up until then walking along with Jesus was fairly safe. Jesus was the "problem" the Jews were focused on. Previous to His crucifixion, there were many accepting but after, they would not be as easily accepted and there were going to be many hostile situations they would be facing, and I like to think that we as Christians don't have to take being treated bad without cause and that we may stand up for our beliefs.
Right/Wrong, not really any different that what seems to be everyone. Maybe because God has different purposes for each of our lives so we get different messages. IDK just thought I would give 2 cents.
Right/Wrong, not really any different that what seems to be everyone. Maybe because God has different purposes for each of our lives so we get different messages. IDK just thought I would give 2 cents.
OK. But you do know know that Jesus was very unhappy when Peter cut off the centurians ear. He was a pacifist and told us to turn the other cheek and not even to call someone a fool. Jesus had a very good reason for wanting to be associated with a sword and it had to do with the fulfilment of prophesy. The verse even tells of the OT prophesy.
And yes, Jesus does want us to make disciples and baptize people.
And yes, Jesus does want us to make disciples and baptize people.
There are two categories of the law given in the OT. One is ceremonial the other is moral. The ceremonial laws were completed in Jesus as fulfilling the law {circumcision, atonement and sacrificial}. The thing to understand is God's standards never changes as far a Holiness, therefore thoes laws still remain and always will.
The reason it is there is because the Jews in particular do not accept that Jesus is the promised Messiah. So if it can be shown that Jesus fulfilled the prophesies relating to Him, then it proves beyond doubt that Jesus is indeed the Messiah. That is the reason for it being there and it is vitally important that we understand this.