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Whoever it is...they are a deceiver......to imply Paul contradicted JESUS is not only lacking in the honesty category, but is also Evil......God would not a true believer to say or imply such a false, satanic lie.....anyone that pits the bible against itself to promote their ideology is false and cultish......good riddance
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I have seen you grow spiritual, leaps and bounds. AMEN, you are spiritually mature enough, to help us defend the Flock when wolf's in sheep's clothing attack the flock. Don't worry, we will help you. In Israel the shepherds traditionally worry clothing that was made from their own sheep. That is where the expression comes from. Hence a person indoctrinated in a strange doctrine, that tries to deceive people who do not know there Bible very well, to deceive them into believing their strange doctrine; is known as a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing.
Acts 20:28-32 (NIV)
28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.
29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.
31 So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.
32 "Now I commit you to God and to the word of his grace, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.
I will warn you about a typical mistake that a younger warrior in Christ will make; you are a Bull in a China Shop, learn to step carefully, our you will break everything. Also, put on the whole armor of GOD, because it is not the People proclaiming false Doctrine that are the true enemy, it is the evil spirit, that has deceived them, that is the enemy.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 (HCSB)
13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder! For Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15 So it is no great thing if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their destiny will be according to their works.
Ephesians 6:10-20 (HCSB)
10 Finally, be strengthened by the Lord and by His vast strength.
11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can stand against the tactics of the Devil.
12 For our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world powers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens.
13 This is why you must take up the full armor of God, so that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having prepared everything, to take your stand.
14 Stand, therefore, with truth like a belt around your waist, righteousness like armor on your chest,
15 and your feet sandaled with readiness for the gospel of peace.
16 In every situation take the shield of faith, and with it you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
17 Take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is God’s word.
18 Pray at all times in the Spirit with every prayer and request, and stay alert in this with all perseverance and intercession for all the saints.
19 Pray also for me, that the message may be given to me when I open my mouth to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel.
20 For this I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I might be bold enough in Him to speak as I should.
I pray you will continue to grow Spiritually all the days of your life!
Acts 20:28-32 (NIV)
28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.
29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.
31 So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.
32 "Now I commit you to God and to the word of his grace, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.
I will warn you about a typical mistake that a younger warrior in Christ will make; you are a Bull in a China Shop, learn to step carefully, our you will break everything. Also, put on the whole armor of GOD, because it is not the People proclaiming false Doctrine that are the true enemy, it is the evil spirit, that has deceived them, that is the enemy.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 (HCSB)
13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder! For Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15 So it is no great thing if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their destiny will be according to their works.
Ephesians 6:10-20 (HCSB)
10 Finally, be strengthened by the Lord and by His vast strength.
11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can stand against the tactics of the Devil.
12 For our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world powers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens.
13 This is why you must take up the full armor of God, so that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having prepared everything, to take your stand.
14 Stand, therefore, with truth like a belt around your waist, righteousness like armor on your chest,
15 and your feet sandaled with readiness for the gospel of peace.
16 In every situation take the shield of faith, and with it you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
17 Take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is God’s word.
18 Pray at all times in the Spirit with every prayer and request, and stay alert in this with all perseverance and intercession for all the saints.
19 Pray also for me, that the message may be given to me when I open my mouth to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel.
20 For this I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I might be bold enough in Him to speak as I should.
I pray you will continue to grow Spiritually all the days of your life!
Who is Peter?
I am not saying who is saved and who is not. Jesus said He came to fulfil the law and not do away with it.
There are many different interpretations of what He meant, and people come and go about their interpretations.
Now can a believer grow in their understanding and some to a resolution while at some point thinking Jesus
spoke differently to Paul and then later coming to understand otherwise.
This is why I would caution anyone who speaks as you do, because many hold to a dispensational view of faith,
where they are saying different things, within different contexts.
But God bless you anyway, and may you walk deep in Christ every day. Amen
I am not saying who is saved and who is not. Jesus said He came to fulfil the law and not do away with it.
There are many different interpretations of what He meant, and people come and go about their interpretations.
Now can a believer grow in their understanding and some to a resolution while at some point thinking Jesus
spoke differently to Paul and then later coming to understand otherwise.
This is why I would caution anyone who speaks as you do, because many hold to a dispensational view of faith,
where they are saying different things, within different contexts.
But God bless you anyway, and may you walk deep in Christ every day. Amen
U
Now considering the absolutely unbiblical dogma of Catholicism on the very basic level of what one must do to be saved......
how ironic that you would make these comments to me...... in the light of the fact you have on several occasions and
with great confidence asserted that a certain Catholic priest you know is a born again Christian.
As they say..... "it is what it is"
how ironic that you would make these comments to me...... in the light of the fact you have on several occasions and
with great confidence asserted that a certain Catholic priest you know is a born again Christian.
As they say..... "it is what it is"
What is clear as time goes by is some believe conflict and exposing others has merit above just sharing
different perspectives. What is forgotten is until we walk with Jesus and stay in Him, the rest is secondary.
I have met many who talk and discuss wildly yet do not know Jesus so are just a clanging gong, or cymbals.
And again others who claim insight to disposses people of spiritual faith or being born again which only God
can give and no man can take away.
But the pompously declaring a position is drivel or should be sicked up etc. when the actually truth is neither
addressed or led into. It all suggests to me a lack of faith and dwelling in Jesus, because who needs to defend
that which flows each day from our hearts and lives.
And the truth is we reap what we sow. So sow to judgementalism and condemnation and reap it on your own
head, sow to grace and love, speak the truth in kindness and you will reap eternal life.
different perspectives. What is forgotten is until we walk with Jesus and stay in Him, the rest is secondary.
I have met many who talk and discuss wildly yet do not know Jesus so are just a clanging gong, or cymbals.
And again others who claim insight to disposses people of spiritual faith or being born again which only God
can give and no man can take away.
But the pompously declaring a position is drivel or should be sicked up etc. when the actually truth is neither
addressed or led into. It all suggests to me a lack of faith and dwelling in Jesus, because who needs to defend
that which flows each day from our hearts and lives.
And the truth is we reap what we sow. So sow to judgementalism and condemnation and reap it on your own
head, sow to grace and love, speak the truth in kindness and you will reap eternal life.
Hi UnderGrace,
vco is very quick to judge and react to some, while a catholic priest who stays as such and is saved,
that takes some doing. There is an ex-priest who some member has on their profile who speaks into
why the Pope is not good, and the whole problem of RCC. I have to say I have always found the
RCC charismatic movement a contradiction, and over the years seems to have reverted back into the
RCC church rather than break into real spiritual life. A little yeast levens the whole lump.
God bless you
vco is very quick to judge and react to some, while a catholic priest who stays as such and is saved,
that takes some doing. There is an ex-priest who some member has on their profile who speaks into
why the Pope is not good, and the whole problem of RCC. I have to say I have always found the
RCC charismatic movement a contradiction, and over the years seems to have reverted back into the
RCC church rather than break into real spiritual life. A little yeast levens the whole lump.
God bless you
U
Yeah well, I was a true born again believer once in my early twenties who sat in Catholic Mass and worked for a catholic organization working with children teaching them the doctrines of the church.
Sometimes people lack understanding, and sometimes they have false doctrines, but they are not always wolves purposefully seeking to destroy others.
Now maybe he was, I have no idea, but that someone can make these judgements on intent and motives of a person on a discussion board baffles my mind.
Sometimes people lack understanding, and sometimes they have false doctrines, but they are not always wolves purposefully seeking to destroy others.
Now maybe he was, I have no idea, but that someone can make these judgements on intent and motives of a person on a discussion board baffles my mind.