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No, there is know restrictions, except the givens in Scripture, because most of us believe that same thing.
Now you need to understand, we have been at this thread for a very long time. And when some one new comes it, we use our Discernment to weigh where they are coming from. That is why I asked you for your Denomination. From that information, we can Discern by examining their Doctrinal Statement of Faith. For if one comes in and he claims he is a Jehovah Witness. We know he does not Believe JESUS is GOD. In fact they will tell you that the correct wording in John 1:1 is:
Now we can tune him out, because he is a Psuedo Christian Cult. They believe in more than one god, and they do not believe that JESUS is EQUAL to GOD, but a lesser god. We do not want to treat a cult member like a brother, there belief is anti-christian.
Do we think Seventh Day Adventist are a cult. Some probably do, but I do not. However, Seventh Day Adventist, walk extremely close to the Cult Line, especially on that Sabbath Issue and other issues.
The We and Our refer to like minded Christians. Here are some verses that support like mindedness:
Philippians 2:20-21 (HCSB)
20 For I have no one else like-minded who will genuinely care about your interests;
21 all seek their own interests, not those of Jesus Christ.
Romans 15:5-6 (NKJV)
5 Now may the God of patience and comfort grant you to be like-minded toward one another, according to Christ Jesus,
6 that you may with one mind and one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 13:11 (NASB)
11 Finally, brethren, rejoice, be made complete, be comforted, be like-minded, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you.
1 Peter 3:8-9 (CSBBible)
8 Finally, all of you be like-minded and sympathetic, love one another, and be compassionate and humble,
9 not paying back evil for evil or insult for insult but, on the contrary, giving a blessing, since you were called for this, so that you may inherit a blessing.
Now you need to understand, we have been at this thread for a very long time. And when some one new comes it, we use our Discernment to weigh where they are coming from. That is why I asked you for your Denomination. From that information, we can Discern by examining their Doctrinal Statement of Faith. For if one comes in and he claims he is a Jehovah Witness. We know he does not Believe JESUS is GOD. In fact they will tell you that the correct wording in John 1:1 is:
Now we can tune him out, because he is a Psuedo Christian Cult. They believe in more than one god, and they do not believe that JESUS is EQUAL to GOD, but a lesser god. We do not want to treat a cult member like a brother, there belief is anti-christian.
Do we think Seventh Day Adventist are a cult. Some probably do, but I do not. However, Seventh Day Adventist, walk extremely close to the Cult Line, especially on that Sabbath Issue and other issues.
The We and Our refer to like minded Christians. Here are some verses that support like mindedness:
Philippians 2:20-21 (HCSB)
20 For I have no one else like-minded who will genuinely care about your interests;
21 all seek their own interests, not those of Jesus Christ.
Romans 15:5-6 (NKJV)
5 Now may the God of patience and comfort grant you to be like-minded toward one another, according to Christ Jesus,
6 that you may with one mind and one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 13:11 (NASB)
11 Finally, brethren, rejoice, be made complete, be comforted, be like-minded, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you.
1 Peter 3:8-9 (CSBBible)
8 Finally, all of you be like-minded and sympathetic, love one another, and be compassionate and humble,
9 not paying back evil for evil or insult for insult but, on the contrary, giving a blessing, since you were called for this, so that you may inherit a blessing.
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NO, PAUL REBUKED PETER:
Galatians 2:11-16 (HCSB)
11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face because he stood condemned.
12 For he regularly ate with the Gentiles before certain men came from James. However, when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, because he feared those from the circumcision party.
13 Then the rest of the Jews joined his hypocrisy, so that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy.
14 But when I saw that they were deviating from the truth of the gospel, I told Cephas in front of everyone, “If you, who are a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you compel Gentiles to live like Jews?”
15 We who are Jews by birth and not “Gentile sinners”
16 know that no one is justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ. And we have believed in Christ Jesus so that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no human being will be justified.
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Better yet....warn young Christians against liars and deceivers that imply or state that Paul contradicted JESUS......such as you have done!
And then take note of the verbiage employed by Jesus, John the Baptist, Elijah and PAUL whom you reject and deny.......they all used sarcasm, heated verbiage and a few particular names, such as Blind leaders of the Blind, Snakes, Vipers, Coffins filled with the bones of dead men, fools, bewitched, etc...........
And then take note of the verbiage employed by Jesus, John the Baptist, Elijah and PAUL whom you reject and deny.......they all used sarcasm, heated verbiage and a few particular names, such as Blind leaders of the Blind, Snakes, Vipers, Coffins filled with the bones of dead men, fools, bewitched, etc...........
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You just EXPOSED YOUR SELF:
Acts 20:28-31 (ESV)
28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
29 I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;
30 and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them.
31 Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish every one with tears.
Only a wolf uses those kind of tactics against YOUNG CHRISTIANS.
Acts 20:28-31 (ESV)
28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
29 I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;
30 and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them.
31 Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish every one with tears.
Only a wolf uses those kind of tactics against YOUNG CHRISTIANS.
I understand a little better now what this thread is about. I thought it was an open discussion, but it seems to have become a group with relatively fixed positions. That's fine with me, but you should let people know that you are here to answer questions pertaining to your positions. I read a lot of false witnessing on here. You will be held accountable for every word you say so i council you to choose your words carefully.
Insecurity is the problem one is seeing displayed.
Jesus asked us to be perfect like our Father, in loving our enemies.
If one makes a friend into an enemy, maybe the agressor is not who they claim to be.
It is ironic how many seeds the enemy sows in the midst of Gods people, and they speak with such
certainty and lead the naive into places they should not go.
It is always less about the labels people carry but how love is expressed that goes beyond the
exterior and speaks to the heart. A parent sees the whole child, and their way of making sense of
the world no matter how flawed, they hope the light of love might spark the flame of hope in their
souls. Jesus said false teachers are shown by their fruit, what is in their hearts. It is not as if they
can deceive the elect, but we can testify to the Holy Spirit moving in our hearts and encouraging us
deeper and further into Christ. Amen
Jesus asked us to be perfect like our Father, in loving our enemies.
If one makes a friend into an enemy, maybe the agressor is not who they claim to be.
It is ironic how many seeds the enemy sows in the midst of Gods people, and they speak with such
certainty and lead the naive into places they should not go.
It is always less about the labels people carry but how love is expressed that goes beyond the
exterior and speaks to the heart. A parent sees the whole child, and their way of making sense of
the world no matter how flawed, they hope the light of love might spark the flame of hope in their
souls. Jesus said false teachers are shown by their fruit, what is in their hearts. It is not as if they
can deceive the elect, but we can testify to the Holy Spirit moving in our hearts and encouraging us
deeper and further into Christ. Amen
This sentence appears like grabbing you by the shoulder and pushing you againt the
wall and then saying the stuff, as if there is a threat of something.
We are saved sinners who walk in love and grace. This is not our approach or style, ever.
The Lord will judge and bring justice and it is for Him to execute judgement.
Everyday people get ill, find out their days are numbered and go to their fate, either with the
Lord or to destruction. It is sobbering to see even in these situations some go down guns blazing
as if this has any meaning or relevance. I just praise the Lord He holds us in His hands and nothing
can touch the promise we have in Him, Amen.
So I can but encourage you brothers and sisters in Christ to seek His face and shine from your hearts
His grace which He so generously bestows on His people, Amen
wall and then saying the stuff, as if there is a threat of something.
We are saved sinners who walk in love and grace. This is not our approach or style, ever.
The Lord will judge and bring justice and it is for Him to execute judgement.
Everyday people get ill, find out their days are numbered and go to their fate, either with the
Lord or to destruction. It is sobbering to see even in these situations some go down guns blazing
as if this has any meaning or relevance. I just praise the Lord He holds us in His hands and nothing
can touch the promise we have in Him, Amen.
So I can but encourage you brothers and sisters in Christ to seek His face and shine from your hearts
His grace which He so generously bestows on His people, Amen
Greetings FollowHisSteps,
You speak well.
I cautioned those bearing false witness for their sakes not mine. One poster called me satanic, heretic, a wolf, said I was some other poster they new and made light of it. I am disappointed at how vile some become. Every word we speak we will be judged for. I had hoped it would make some think about the commandment not to bear false witness. I will not be posting here on this thread anymore. If I thought I could without all of the chaos I would.
Bless YHWH!
You speak well.
I cautioned those bearing false witness for their sakes not mine. One poster called me satanic, heretic, a wolf, said I was some other poster they new and made light of it. I am disappointed at how vile some become. Every word we speak we will be judged for. I had hoped it would make some think about the commandment not to bear false witness. I will not be posting here on this thread anymore. If I thought I could without all of the chaos I would.
Bless YHWH!
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