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According to the Bible God is no longer moving men to record the working of His will. We have the perfect law, with no laws missing by which we could knw Him not seen more adequately. Tongues is prophecy . mysticism is seeking after a unknow with a unknown .
Looks like you have painted your self on the outside of the law . The tongues doctrine as to the new manner God did bring new revelations before he sealed up that possibility . It's foundation is not secret where God is shown mocking those who fall backward
Yet for all that the sign still confirms unbelief.
To the law ((Isaiah 28.)and the prophets... as the witness to the law
Isaiah 28:11-13 King James Version (KJV) For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
1 Corinthians 14:20-22 King James Version (KJV) Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.2 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
Looks like you have painted your self on the outside of the law . The tongues doctrine as to the new manner God did bring new revelations before he sealed up that possibility . It's foundation is not secret where God is shown mocking those who fall backward
Yet for all that the sign still confirms unbelief.
To the law ((Isaiah 28.)and the prophets... as the witness to the law
Isaiah 28:11-13 King James Version (KJV) For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
1 Corinthians 14:20-22 King James Version (KJV) Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.2 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
Hi Dino
Is there a law missing by which we could know him more adequately or does he protect the integrity of His word as the Son of man ,Jesus did in Mathew 4, As it is written . . three times, round and round?
No idea of he said she said as if we did wrestle against flesh and blood? I think he speaks to all of our hearts as new creatures.
If every time the Spirit of Christ in us would correct us as it did with Peter in John 21, according to Peters lie. . The whole word would not be able to contain the books that could of been written . One book is adequate for myself.
Today with micro processers it as it written could fit in a mustard seed .Soon not seen by the human eye.
If when he comes and finds them like in the time of Noah men willfully speaking whatsoever their heart desires, no faith that comes from hearing God not seen. The flood water came. .
Is there a law missing by which we could know him more adequately or does he protect the integrity of His word as the Son of man ,Jesus did in Mathew 4, As it is written . . three times, round and round?
No idea of he said she said as if we did wrestle against flesh and blood? I think he speaks to all of our hearts as new creatures.
If every time the Spirit of Christ in us would correct us as it did with Peter in John 21, according to Peters lie. . The whole word would not be able to contain the books that could of been written . One book is adequate for myself.
Today with micro processers it as it written could fit in a mustard seed .Soon not seen by the human eye.
If when he comes and finds them like in the time of Noah men willfully speaking whatsoever their heart desires, no faith that comes from hearing God not seen. The flood water came. .
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Yes, I know about this well. I do not call this prophesy, I call this the gift of discernment, or Just that God is sharing things with us to help us in our roles of discipling.
This stuff happens all the time, to many people. In many places. To think this is somethign which we need to do in our church services, instead of feeding the flock with the word. Well that I have issue with.
Its sad that you feel so insecure with your ability to show where I am wrong in my thinking that you have to lower yourself to make such statements as this.. Sad
This stuff happens all the time, to many people. In many places. To think this is somethign which we need to do in our church services, instead of feeding the flock with the word. Well that I have issue with.
Its sad that you feel so insecure with your ability to show where I am wrong in my thinking that you have to lower yourself to make such statements as this.. Sad
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Yep. It is still NOT prophesy 
I don’t agree with you, because I do not see it in scripture. And I do not have to make such claims against you in order to prove my point.
That wasn't directed at you personally, but for the record, I'm not insecure about it. I have demonstrated my position from Scripture. You didn't agree with me.
I am not asking .An unknown tongue is ridiculous. They have nothing to say. Just that they have experienced a mysterious wonderment that needs no interpretation Just fall back in unbelief. Everyone knows what's its like to wonder. The things is what does it confirm with those who fall backward. Loss of balance? Yet they refuse to hear God without their wonderments.
What does the sign according to the law confirm?
What does the sign according to the law confirm?
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2:12-14
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2:12-14
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As I commented many times the sequence in which one receives the the infilling of the Holy Ghost and water baptism is of no importance. What is important is that both are required along with repentance.
The scriptures witness 2-3 times the truth of the matter. Everyone is free to choose whether to accept or reject that established truth.
The scriptures witness 2-3 times the truth of the matter. Everyone is free to choose whether to accept or reject that established truth.
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