Was Adam and Eve a newer creation than genesis 1?

[Skyline]

Re-read Genesis 6... definitely fallen angels. That is disturbing... Then again much in Genesis is (e.g. Lot and his daughters)

 

[DeighAnn]

Adam and Eve, the parents of Cain and Able had language because the world was well developed by that time.
The account of Adam, Eve and the serpent is an Old Testament parable that tells us sin came into the world by disobedience to God.

Here are some dates for your information.
200,000 B.C. Homo sapiens, the first modern humans, appear in Africa.
62.000 B.C. Bow and arrows with stone points (arrowheads) are used.
30,000 B.C. Cro-Maqgnon man is flourishing, moving from the Near East into Europe, lives by hunting and gathering. Cro-Magnon’s painted caves with drawings of the animals they killed.
25,000 B.C. Bering Strait is crossed by humans, connecting Asia to the Americas.
18,000 B.C. Clay pottery ware is created. Humans begin to use raw metals.
10,000 B.C. Humans make it to the southem most point of South America.
8,000 8.C. The Neolithic Revolution and an agriculture way of life is discovered in the Fertile Crescent(Middle Eastern area. Cows and sheep were domesticated and crops where manipulated and tended.
6500 B.C. The oceans and sea rises. England is now cut off from Europe by land.
6000.B.C.. First beer is brewed from grain in the Near East.
5500 B.C. First settled societies in the Mesopotamia region.
4500 B.C. Humans learn how to use the plow.
4250 8.C. Development of copper and bronze metallurgy.
4242 B.C. The very first year on the Eqyptian calendar.
4000 B.C. The wheel is invented and begins to be used. Rice farming in China is developed.
3,400 8.C. Beginning forms of writing. Earliest zigqurats are built.

If you BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION, you must know IT CAN NEVER STOP. And since we do NOT have representations of 1/8 and 7/8s or 1/2and 1/2s or 1/4 and 3/4s that THEORY is in the trash. And if every thing they show you looks like an ape, looks like it walks like an ape, and is a "gonna turn into a man" YOU go on ahead and BELIEVE them. They have lots more to sell you. Just look all wide eyed and innocent, and believe everything they tell you they have a "theory" about. As for me, I GOT GOD and the Word, and IT IS NEVER REVISED TO BE MADE CORRECT. I'll bet you have never even questioned why "New" Science books are needed all the time.

 

[Skyline]

Could “cave man” have been the offspring from Genesis 6? Wiped away by the flood.

 

[Magenta]

… God does not serve time. He transgresses it. It serves him.

I think you meant to say transcends? Darn spell check strikes again

 

[calibob]

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[calibob]

I think you meant to say transcends? Darn spell check strikes again

Yup, I stand corrected. Thank you.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Because of things like this

How can a TOTALLY IRRELEVANT passage have any bearing on the creation account?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Man in the Hebrew is 'a^da^m or aw-dawm' It is the Hebrew word for man. It is not a name.

As I said. Get a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and go through every reference to Adam.

But since you are not familiar with Adam as a name I will give you just one verse to prove that you are wrong:

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. (1 Cor 15:45)

No honest person can deny that "Adam" is used as a name here. But there are other verse also.

 

[stonesoffire]

The scriptures don't specifically speak of day eight or refer to an eighth day, to speak on it would be imaginations or hear-say from a source outside Gods inspired written preserved word.

No, not so. The babies were circumcised on the 8th day. Is why we call the 8th day a day of new beginnings.

 

[Rosemaryx]

No, not so. The babies were circumcised on the 8th day. Is why we call the 8th day a day of new beginnings.

Hi Stones...
Did you know that boys when born have something in their penis that if they bled from the day before the 8th day , they would bleed to death ...The blood clots after the 7th day , I found that really interesting why God made it the 8th day , but I did read it , so I am not stating it as truth , maybe something to look in to...xox...

 

[DeighAnn]

How can a TOTALLY IRRELEVANT passage have any bearing on the creation account?

This was in reply to your "WHY NOT IGNORE THE IGNORANT...." not anything to do with creation. A

 

[stonesoffire]

Hi Stones...
Did you know that boys when born have something in their penis that if they bled from the day before the 8th day , they would bleed to death ...The blood clots after the 7th day , I found that really interesting why God made it the 8th day , but I did read it , so I am not stating it as truth , maybe something to look in to...xox...

Yes I knew that but has been years since needing to know. I had three boys. 🥰

But, in Israel, this was their belonging to the nation, and to YHWH. A cutting off of flesh for purity, and for newness of life. Very symbolic for them and for us today spiritually.

 

[Rosemaryx]

Yes I knew that but has been years since needing to know. I had three boys. 🥰

But, in Israel, this was their belonging to the nation, and to YHWH. A cutting off of flesh for purity, and for newness of life. Very symbolic for them and for us today spiritually.

Yes I know that , I was just given you some info about why God made it the 8th day , I have boys to , but I did not that about the 8th day , thought you would of found that interesting...xox...

 

[OneOfHis]

No, not so. The babies were circumcised on the 8th day. Is why we call the 8th day a day of new beginnings.

I know, I specifically was answering calibobs question in regards to the 8th day of creation... the bible does speak of an 8th day... with moses as well...

In regards to the 8th day of creation, no the bible does not speak of it specifically.

 

[calibob]

No, not so. The babies were circumcised on the 8th day. Is why we call the 8th day a day of new beginnings.

Thank you I/we learned something unexpected here today.

 

[calibob]

Leviticus 9:1-10 King James Version (KJV) (CO Bible gateway)

9:1 And it came to pass on the eighth day, that Moses called Aaron and his sons, and the elders of Israel;

7 And Moses said unto Aaron, Go unto the altar, and offer thy sin offering, and thy burnt offering, and make an atonement for thyself, and for the people: and offer the offering of the people, and make an atonement for them; as the Lord commanded.

 

[calibob]

Numbers 29: 35 On the eighth day ye shall have a solemn assembly: ye shall do no servile work therein:

So I got curious and found references from sin offerings to purification festivals to the menorah on the 8th day.

The Mishkan was a microcosm—a cosmos in miniature. Thus Genesis begins and Exodus ends with stories of creation, the first by G‑d, the second by the Israelites. The eighth day is when we celebrate the human contribution to creation.
https://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/3269391/jewish/The-Eighth-Day.htm

 

[stonesoffire]

Yes I know that , I was just given you some info bleabout why God made it the 8th day , I have boys to , but I did not that about the 8th day , thought you would of found that interesting...xox...

Am a nurse or was I should say. Was benched (lol) in 1988 with an injury. Numbers in the scriptures are very interesting. Adds to the poetic scene of the Hebrew language.

Thank you for bringing it up. 😉

 

[stonesoffire]

Numbers 29: 35 On the eighth day ye shall have a solemn assembly: ye shall do no servile work therein:

So I got curious and found references from sin offerings to purification festivals to the menorah on the 8th day.

The Mishkan was a microcosm—a cosmos in miniature. Thus Genesis begins and Exodus ends with stories of creation, the first by G‑d, the second by the Israelites. The eighth day is when we celebrate the human contribution to creation.
https://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/3269391/jewish/The-Eighth-Day.htm

I was quite surprised at Rabbi Sacks conclusion of the action of circumcision. But, then I realized this is not a Messianic Rabbi.

So if we were to accept his thoughts on this, what then would be the conclusion of circumcision of the heart made without human hands?

He could never understand could he? This would be radical thinking and would take the action of God for understanding. Which it does for us gentiles but why do we accept so readily and they stumble?

Because of this thinking?

 

[calibob]

Well we are we getting away from the main question? Could God have created Adam and Eve after the Genesis 1 creation story? The first time I read both accounts, word for word, verse by verse paragraph by paragraph in several translations I saw similarities and differences. Nobody taught this but I have come to believe that it is so. I was especially curious to learn how everything went so wrong so long ago.

My ideas about this have nothing to do with Salvation, redemption or adoption into Gods family. I do not doubt the word of God at all. I have questions that just aren't in there. So I simple brought it up for intelligent conversation. Thank you all for participating and we've went 119 posts and it's remained civil. Praise the Lord!