Noahide Laws and the anti-christ

[tourist]

And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Is this about Horatio Hornblower? Very philosophical regardless. I think that he was an Ancient Mariner of some sorts.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

One thing about our sister in Christ Undergrace is that she always converses in a respectful manner. We have to be careful not to interpret disagreement with a lack of love. We ALL come off as my way or the highway on certain stuff.

I disagree with her on several issues, but even on those, her points stimulate diverse thinking. And that's usually a good thing.

I would not call what she said respectful. It would be classified as disrespectful, But your right, we all lapse.. Its how we handle it that matters.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Is this about Horatio Hornblower? Very philosophical regardless. I think that he was an Ancient Mariner of some sorts.

I loved that series!!

 

[azamzimtoti]

Oh boy, and your going to tell us who he was and how he fulfilled this right?,,,we've been waiting for this for so long...

I was hoping you would know what John meant by "it is the last hour".

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I was hoping you would know what John meant by "it is the last hour".

We were hoping you understood it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I have talking about his on CC for a full year and was called a hater because of it.
People just do not want to face the facts sadly.

Once again, The same thing could be said of you. This is not the way to have conversation, No matter what side does it.

Those peopel I told spoke about earlier, who were EXTREMELY against Hebrew roots and the noahide laws Told me because I was not a preterist or Amil, That I was dual covenant, thus could not be saved, because I believed in a different gospel.

And when it comes to knowledge of their belief, Its been awhile since i have seen people in here as knowledgeable as them. So to say we are not open, or have not heard things would be wrong.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Noahide Laws and the anti-christ

Why would anyone try to connect the Noahide laws with the Antichrist? There is absolutely no connection.

After the Flood, God made a covenant with Noah, and also gave mankind two laws, which were incorporated into the Law of Moses:

GENESIS 9
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. [THIS GOES BACK TO CREATION -- NOT A LAW]

2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. [THIS GOES BACK TO CREATION -- NOT A LAW]

3 Every moving thing [living creature] that liveth shall be meat [food] for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. [THIS GOES FORWARD TO THE NEW TESTAMENT -- NOT A LAW]

4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. [THIS GOES FORWARD TO THE NT AND APPLIES TO ALL CHRISTIANS -- THIS IS A LAW]

5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. [THIS GOES FORWARD TO THE LAW OF MOSES -- THIS IS A LAW]

6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.[THIS GOES FORWARD TO THE LAW OF MOSES -- THIS IS A LAW]

7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein. [THIS GOES BACK TO CREATION -- NOT A LAW BUT A REITERATION]

As we can see, there are only two laws here, not seven as commonly assumed. And they have nothing whatsoever to do with the Antichrist.

 

[Magenta]

We had some very heated threads when I first came into CC about hebrew roots. Mostly along the line of end times prophesy. It got nasty.

And Amen, that world is dangerous. And it is taking hold. But it will also be defeated. The antichrist will establish himself as God. Thus he will have to destroy all religions. And force all to worship him. Even recieve the mark, which is not part of any current religious scheme

Yes, I do recall some Hebrew Roots discussions, and the Judaizers are still present among us here. Knowing they are being groomed for dastardly deeds puts somewhat of a different spin on it all... I have recognized them as promoting a different gospel, just never saw it before as being so closely connected with end time events. Listening to what the Jewish teachers claim is God's plan for them and us in the video Ed gave in his OP should be cause for concern to every Christian.

 

[Magenta]

Why would anyone try to connect the Noahide laws with the Antichrist? There is absolutely no connection.

Jewish teachers/rabbis are saying we (Christians) should be beheaded for worshiping a false god (Jesus) and not keeping their Sabbath. Did you watch the video?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Jewish teachers/rabbis are saying we (Christians) should be beheaded for worshiping a false god (Jesus) and not keeping their Sabbath. Did you watch the video?

No I do not watch videos, but even so those things have nothing to do with the Noahide laws. If anything the ones who beheaded Christians would need to be beheaded in turn.

Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed.

 

[UnderGrace]

Is this about Horatio Hornblower? Very philosophical regardless. I think that he was an Ancient Mariner of some sorts.

You are very funny Mr. Tourist.... Hamlet

 

[PennEd]

No I do not watch videos, but even so those things have nothing to do with the Noahide laws. If anything the ones who beheaded Christians would need to be beheaded in turn.

Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed.

Look, obviously anybody can comment anything they like, but I specifically said I wanted to know what people thought AFTER viewing the video. You can't really be in tuned to the discussion unless you see what we are talking about.

You are asking questions and making comments that are addressed in the videoes.

 

[p_rehbein]

I have talking about his on CC for a full year and was called a hater because of it.
People just do not want to face the facts sadly.

(tongue firmly in cheek)

 

[Locoponydirtman]

1. Do not profane G‑d’s Oneness in any way.
   Acknowledge that there is a single G‑d who cares about what we are doing and desires that we take care of His world.
2. Do not curse your Creator.
   No matter how angry you may be, do not take it out verbally against your Creator.
3. Do not murder.
   The value of human life cannot be measured. To destroy a single human life is to destroy the entire world—because, for that person, the world has ceased to exist. It follows that by sustaining a single human life, you are sustaining an entire universe.
4. Do not eat a limb of a living animal.
   Respect the life of all G‑d’s creatures. As intelligent beings, we have a duty not to cause undue pain to other creatures.
5. Do not steal.
   Whatever benefits you receive in this world, make sure that none of them are at the unfair expense of someone else.
6. Harness and channel the human libido.
   Incest, adultery, rape and homosexual relations are forbidden.
   The family unit is the foundation of human society. Sexuality is the fountain of life and so nothing is more holy than the sexual act. So, too, when abused, nothing can be more debasing and destructive to the human being.
7. Establish courts of law and ensure justice in our world.
   With every small act of justice, we are restoring harmony to our world, synchronizing it with a supernal order. That is why we must keep the laws established by our government for the country’s stability and harmony

These are the Noahide laws. I'm not seeing the issue here.please elaborate.

 

[calibob]

Many of you know how I cannot stomach Holocaust deniers, and how much I love the Jewish people. So please bear that in mind if you watch this video. There was ONE group of people Jesus consistently had VERY harsh, some may even say unloving, things to say to and about. It was the Pharisees the Scribes, and the Sadducees. Jesus loved EVERYONE else. ESPECIALLY His Blood Jewish people. He even asked His Father not to account His Death to them.

I had not heard of this thing until recently. But as I explore, it appears to make perfect sense that this is how Christian persecution and beheading will happen. I am talking about the Noahidic Laws. This is a crazy thing that almost no one heard of, yet U.S. Presidents, the U.N. and most countries embrace. I have always believed that the antichrist was going to be of Jewish descent. And this just makes me think so more. I don't necessarily agree with everything presented here, but if you watch, I'd be interested in your thoughts:

I have long believed those who want to discard salvation and the blood of Jesus by returning to Levitical laws are anti Christians. Also since the early 80's I have believed that the beast will be a banker or come from the banking world. Not a Pope, priest or politician. And much more recently I have learned that the Rothchild's are Hebrews and not Anglican as the name suggests. You have my #1 suspect. The Antichrist will be his puppet. I've been kind of waiting for a new version of the temple of Solomon to be built so the beast can sit in the Holy of Holies and demand to be worshiped and declare himself God. The abomination that causes desolation. However I'll concede may be in the cyber world. We should not pretend to be surprised. The events are foretold by the Apostle named John. Therefore they must take place.

 

[UnderGrace]

1. Do not profane G‑d’s Oneness in any way.
   Acknowledge that there is a single G‑d who cares about what we are doing and desires that we take care of His world.
2. Do not curse your Creator.
   No matter how angry you may be, do not take it out verbally against your Creator.
3. Do not murder.
   The value of human life cannot be measured. To destroy a single human life is to destroy the entire world—because, for that person, the world has ceased to exist. It follows that by sustaining a single human life, you are sustaining an entire universe.
4. Do not eat a limb of a living animal.
   Respect the life of all G‑d’s creatures. As intelligent beings, we have a duty not to cause undue pain to other creatures.
5. Do not steal.
   Whatever benefits you receive in this world, make sure that none of them are at the unfair expense of someone else.
6. Harness and channel the human libido.
   Incest, adultery, rape and homosexual relations are forbidden.
   The family unit is the foundation of human society. Sexuality is the fountain of life and so nothing is more holy than the sexual act. So, too, when abused, nothing can be more debasing and destructive to the human being.
7. Establish courts of law and ensure justice in our world.
   With every small act of justice, we are restoring harmony to our world, synchronizing it with a supernal order. That is why we must keep the laws established by our government for the country’s stability and harmony

These are the Noahide laws. I'm not seeing the issue here.please elaborate.

I believe these are the original laws

1. Not to worship idols.
2. Not to curse God.
3. To establish courts of justice.
4. Not to commit murder.
5. Not to commit adultery, bestiality, or sexual immorality.
6. Not to steal.
7. Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.

Christians worry Jesus would be considered an idol under this wording.

 

[BillG]

There was ONE group of people Jesus consistently had VERY harsh, some may even say unloving, things to say to and about. It was the Pharisees the Scribes, and the Sadducees. Jesus loved EVERYONE else.

Hi Mr PennEd.

Have read through all the responses in this thread.
Not watched the video.
To be honest I probably won't interact in this thread (other than this one)
It goes beyond my capacity of thinking and it's capabilities to comprehend.

The reason for this post is to ask you.

Do you think that Jesus did not love the Pharisees, Scribes and Sadducees?
It seems from your last sentence that he did not.

 

[calibob]

I believe these are the original laws

1. Not to worship idols.
2. Not to curse God.
3. To establish courts of justice.
4. Not to commit murder.
5. Not to commit adultery, bestiality, or sexual immorality.
6. Not to steal.
7. Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.

Christians worry Jesus would be considered an idol under this wording.

Who? I've never heard of that. Jesus is God, not an idol or false likeness.

 

[iamsoandso]

Look, obviously anybody can comment anything they like, but I specifically said I wanted to know what people thought AFTER viewing the video. You can't really be in tuned to the discussion unless you see what we are talking about.

You are asking questions and making comments that are addressed in the videoes.

In the second video(me and my wife watched it twice.lol were old) but here is the 102-14 text https://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/house-joint-resolution/104/text that way they can see that the things in the video are fact and not just another youtube video.

 

[UnderGrace]

Who? I've never heard of that. Jesus is God, not an idol or false likeness.

It is not our perspective that is the problem here as you rightly see.