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I been hearing crickets all day 
NO
Do I care if you put me on ignore?
No
Do I care if you give me negative points?
No
In case you guys didn't know it, this is not a popularity contest. If you are here for a popularity contest, you are sowing to the flesh, and building wood, hay, and stubble
I been hearing crickets all day
JESUS--->I never knew you
THEM....BUT LORD DID WE NOT bah blah blah..........
or MAYBE the rich man.....NO Abraham the word won't work but if ONE went to them from the dead they would blah blah blah......
How many times do we just make a generalized statement of truth and then get accused of saying or implying something we never implied....the BIBLE must be taken in the whole........it is not divisive in it's truth..........line upon line, precept upon precept....IT IS ALL the word of GOD........
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So of course DC will not admit he was wrong when he accused me of dismissing the two natures. It's just not in his nature. Just like he never admitted he was wrong in his accusation of Argueless.
Go ahead and keep me on ignore. I consider it a good thing when false witnesses and those who join hands with them put me on ignore
Go ahead and keep me on ignore. I consider it a good thing when false witnesses and those who join hands with them put me on ignore
Macabeus, post: 3946366, member: 279100"]He is transposing Pauline theology regarding two natures onto 1 John 3:6-10.
"dcontroversal, post: 3946452, member: 183444"]Now you are embellishing pal..........you were clear and dismissed the two natures......and the point JOHN makes is clear....see if you can follow reason....
If I say that which is born of incorruptible seed/spirit DOES NOT SIN......what is the obvious conclusion about the flesh......?
SEE....you cannot DISMISS the rest of the BIBLE when considering similar contexts and or statements of TRUTH......so you may think you can compartmentalize the bible away into little boxes pal, but you cannot....IT STANDS AS A WHOLE
first quote- I affirm that Paul teaches two natures
second quote- DC accuses me of dismissing the teaching of two natures.
Clear example of lying.
"dcontroversal, post: 3946452, member: 183444"]Now you are embellishing pal..........you were clear and dismissed the two natures......and the point JOHN makes is clear....see if you can follow reason....
If I say that which is born of incorruptible seed/spirit DOES NOT SIN......what is the obvious conclusion about the flesh......?
SEE....you cannot DISMISS the rest of the BIBLE when considering similar contexts and or statements of TRUTH......so you may think you can compartmentalize the bible away into little boxes pal, but you cannot....IT STANDS AS A WHOLE
first quote- I affirm that Paul teaches two natures
second quote- DC accuses me of dismissing the teaching of two natures.
Clear example of lying.
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what you are speaking of is sanctification , which is AFTER salvation.
as i have told you before, - 2 people who are addicted to drugs come to Christ. both truly believe.
one never uses again. the other takes years to get clean.
is one more " saved " than the other?
no, both are saved by the same thing - belief in Christ.
that is what you legalists fight so hard against- the level playing filed that salvation by faith alone produces.
as i have told you before, - 2 people who are addicted to drugs come to Christ. both truly believe.
one never uses again. the other takes years to get clean.
is one more " saved " than the other?
no, both are saved by the same thing - belief in Christ.
that is what you legalists fight so hard against- the level playing filed that salvation by faith alone produces.
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Lol, DC has more bodyguards than the queen of England. I showed plainly that he lied, and 1 John 3:10 shows plainly that his interpretation is wrong
And don’t bellyache about “attacks” because as you have shown, yet again, that DC and his bodyguards, gangster crew, are the ones who are guilty of personal attacks.
And don’t bellyache about “attacks” because as you have shown, yet again, that DC and his bodyguards, gangster crew, are the ones who are guilty of personal attacks.
Yep, when DC is unable to adequately defend his position, when he is called out for misrepresenting another persons position, he hides behind his bodyguards. I’ll tell you what. I challenge DC to a debate on this, just him and I, without hiding behind his royal guard. Of course, he will refuse, because he is wholly unable to defend his position and depends on numbers of his gang to dogpile on his opponent
Let’s see if DC is adequate to stand alone and defend his position
Let’s see if DC is adequate to stand alone and defend his position
I am not sure what has caused this bickering, but you ALL are playing into the hands of the Devil himself.
Please Calm down everyone, I think this is a classic misunderstanding, that has resulted from a slight difference in terminology.
Here is a better way to put the Two Natures that Paul is describing in ROMANS Chapter 7, and 1 John 3:6-10.
Romans 7:25 (HCSB)
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with my mind I myself am a slave to the law of God, but with my flesh, to the law of sin.
Therefore since GOD IS THE AUTHOR that INSPIRED both Rom. 7 and 1 John 3:6-10, HE CANNOT CONTRADICT HIMSELF. Therefore look for the common ground, and you will discover the TRUTH in what HE says.
In 1 John 3:6-10, we find that HE is not talking about the PERFECTION of the WALK, but the DIRECTION OF ONE'S WALK.
I am not a big fan of the Amplified Version, but here the verses make it Perfectly CLEAR that it is talking about the Direction of One's Walk in Christ.
1 John 3:9-10 (AMP)
9 No one born (begotten) of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, for God's nature abides in him [His principle of life, the divine sperm, remains permanently within him]; and he cannot practice sinning because he is born (begotten) of God.
10 By this it is made clear who take their nature from God and are His children and who take their nature from the devil and are his children: no one who does not practice righteousness [who does not conform to God's will in purpose, thought, and action] is of God; neither is anyone who does not love his brother (his fellow believer in Christ).
YOU will Strive to WALK as HE did, Toward the GOD of RIGHTEOUS, and when we Fail, we WILL automatically Confess it AS SIN,
as stated 1 John 1:9, AND GET RIGHT BACK UP AND CONTINUE IN DIRECTION OF GOD'S WILL. HOWEVER, we will never allow it to become a habitual sin, as we will develop a self-disciplining attitude in ourselves. No we will not be perfect, but we will strive towards that DIRECTION .
Now something that almost everyone has turned a blind eye to, that get's in a HEATED Name Calling DEBATE. We are to be examples for the Younger Brethren, who do not even think they know enough about the BIBLE, to POST. I try to remember that for every thread post, there will be as many as 7 people READ IT, that NEVER POST. AND These are the ones that can be swayed NEGATIVELY by a hasty remark in a Heated Debate.
PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.
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