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BLAH BLAH BLAH.......I trust JESUS pal.....he saves by faith...you should try it before you miss the boat
I already have belief in Yeshuah. But I understand that I must also yield good works based on that belief. You on the other hand, think that you only need to believe, and not yield good works. We will see how fares better in the end, the one who yielded no good works, or the one who did.
 

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If the ignore feature is a girl, can I marry her?

She is a good house keeper

Cleans up the thread nicely, and she is easy on my eyes, and when I see all else, I can see everything with rose colored glasses

She protects my eyes and only allow me the freedom see what was ignored and she will never accuse me of anything

She is very understanding to me

And very diplomatic, as she is a peacemaker

And I cannot find a wife as loyal as her

And I am free to touch the ignore feature anytime I want, and she fully consents
 
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I just quoted you scripture, which you ignored.
So what.........the devil quoted scripture and the way you take it out of context to peddle your working for blather proves that GOD is not leading you pal.....what I ignore is your interpretation of scripture......so.....try again Star child
 
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I already have belief in Yeshuah. But I understand that I must also yield good works based on that belief. You on the other hand, think that you only need to believe, and not yield good works. We will see how fares better in the end, the one who yielded no good works, or the one who did.
The very law you cite you break by falsely accusing me......so jive that with your law keeping blather........
 

theanointedwinner

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If the ignore feature is a girl, can I marry her?

She is a good house keeper

Cleans up the thread nicely, and she is easy on my eyes, and when I see all else, I can see everything with rose colored glasses

She protects my eyes and only allow me the freedom see what was ignored and she will never accuse me of anything

She is very understanding to me

And very diplomatic, as she is a peacemaker

And I cannot find a wife as loyal as her

And I am free to touch the ignore feature anytime I want, and she fully consents
when her soft hands cover my eyes, my face loves it
 
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So what.........the devil quoted scripture and the way you take it out of context to peddle your working for blather proves that GOD is not leading you pal.....what I ignore is your interpretation of scripture......so.....try again Star child
Let me quote more scripture proving that good works are required,

If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that Yehovah your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to Yehovah against you, and you become guilty of sin.
Deuteronomy 15:7-9

If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.
James 4:17

Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:19

You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
John 15:16

And the Master replied, “A faithful, sensible manager is one to whom the master can give the responsibility of managing his other household servants and feeding them. If the master returns and finds that the servant has done a good job, there will be a reward. I tell you the truth, the master will put that servant in charge of all he owns.
Luke 12:42-44

so that you may live a life worthy of the Master and please him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God,
Colossians 1:10

And God is able to make all favor abound to you, so that having all sufficiency in all things at all times, you may abound in every good work.
2 Corinthians 9:8

Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
2 Timothy 2:21

that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:17

Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom.
James 3:13

who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
Titus 2:14

Do everything you can to help Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way and see that they have everything they need. Our people must learn to devote themselves to doing what is good, in order to provide for urgent needs and not live unproductive lives.
Titus 3:13-14

Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s favor in its various forms.
1 Peter 4:10

Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,
Titus 3:1

remembering before our God and Father your work of belief and labor of love and steadfastness of hope in our Master Messiah Yeshuah.
1 Thessalonians 1:3

So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.
1 Peter 4:19

Also, the women are to dress themselves in modest clothing, with decency and good sense, not with elaborate hairstyles, gold, pearls, or expensive apparel, but with good works, as is proper for women who affirm that they worship God.
1 Timothy 2:9-10

Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Master, knowing that in the Master your labor is not in vain.
1 Corinthians 15:58
So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of belief.
Galatians 6:10​
Share with the set-apart ones who are in need…
Romans 12:13​
All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I had been eager to do all along.
Galatians 2:10​
this is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the Most High, which has come upon my master the king: that you be driven away from mankind and your dwelling place be with the beasts of the field, and you be given grass to eat like cattle and be drenched with the dew of heaven; and seven periods of time will pass over you, until you recognize that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes. And in that it was commanded to leave the stump with the roots of the tree, your kingdom will be assured to you after you recognize that it is Heaven that rules. Therefore, O king, may my advice be pleasing to you: break away now from your sins by doing righteousness and from your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor, in case there may be a prolonging of your prosperity.’
Daniel 4:24-27​
Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the straps of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry and bring the homeless poor into your house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh? Then shall your light break forth like the dawn, and your healing shall spring up speedily; your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of Yehovah shall be your rear guard. Then you shall call, and Yehovah will answer; you shall cry, and he will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you take away the yoke from your midst, the pointing of the finger, and speaking wickedness,
Isaiah 58:6-9​
Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.
Proverbs 21:13​
Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to act. Do not say to your neighbor, “Come back tomorrow and I’ll give it to you”– when you already have it with you.
Proverbs 3:27-28​
Wash yourself, make yourself clean; put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil. Learn to do good; seek judgment, rebuke the oppressor, defend the orphan, plead for the widow. Please come, and let us reason together, implores Yehovah. Even though your sins are like scarlet, they’ll be white like snow. Though they’re like crimson, they’ll become like wool.
Isaiah 1:16-18​
Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the belief and is worse than an unbeliever.
1 Timothy 5:8​
Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.
Ephesians 4:28​
You yourselves know that these hands ministered to my necessities and to those who were with me. In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Master Yeshuah, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Acts 20:34-35​
 
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That has nothing to do with how ONE is saved.....and works do not help save, keep saved or top off salvation.....nice twist.......was JESUS sinning when he told hi


Fully agree.....this corruption started with Cain offering his works and continues this day with ALL that blend faith plus anything to get saved, stay saved or top off salvation....the "many grouping" <----MOST fit this group--->LORD LORD have we not done blah, blah, blah in your name........
Maybe it is me, but it seems rampant these days and sometimes so subtle......to me it is so freeing to know "Jesus Alone"
 
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Let me quote more scripture proving that good works are required,

If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that Yehovah your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to Yehovah against you, and you become guilty of sin.
Deuteronomy 15:7-9

If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.
James 4:17

Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:19

You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
John 15:16

And the Master replied, “A faithful, sensible manager is one to whom the master can give the responsibility of managing his other household servants and feeding them. If the master returns and finds that the servant has done a good job, there will be a reward. I tell you the truth, the master will put that servant in charge of all he owns.
Luke 12:42-44

so that you may live a life worthy of the Master and please him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God,
Colossians 1:10

And God is able to make all favor abound to you, so that having all sufficiency in all things at all times, you may abound in every good work.
2 Corinthians 9:8

Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
2 Timothy 2:21

that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:17

Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom.
James 3:13

who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
Titus 2:14

Do everything you can to help Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way and see that they have everything they need. Our people must learn to devote themselves to doing what is good, in order to provide for urgent needs and not live unproductive lives.
Titus 3:13-14

Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s favor in its various forms.
1 Peter 4:10

Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,
Titus 3:1

remembering before our God and Father your work of belief and labor of love and steadfastness of hope in our Master Messiah Yeshuah.
1 Thessalonians 1:3

So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.
1 Peter 4:19

Also, the women are to dress themselves in modest clothing, with decency and good sense, not with elaborate hairstyles, gold, pearls, or expensive apparel, but with good works, as is proper for women who affirm that they worship God.
1 Timothy 2:9-10

Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Master, knowing that in the Master your labor is not in vain.
1 Corinthians 15:58
So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of belief.​
Galatians 6:10​
Share with the set-apart ones who are in need…
Romans 12:13​
All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I had been eager to do all along.​
Galatians 2:10​
this is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the Most High, which has come upon my master the king: that you be driven away from mankind and your dwelling place be with the beasts of the field, and you be given grass to eat like cattle and be drenched with the dew of heaven; and seven periods of time will pass over you, until you recognize that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes. And in that it was commanded to leave the stump with the roots of the tree, your kingdom will be assured to you after you recognize that it is Heaven that rules. Therefore, O king, may my advice be pleasing to you: break away now from your sins by doing righteousness and from your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor, in case there may be a prolonging of your prosperity.’​
Daniel 4:24-27​
Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the straps of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry and bring the homeless poor into your house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh? Then shall your light break forth like the dawn, and your healing shall spring up speedily; your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of Yehovah shall be your rear guard. Then you shall call, and Yehovah will answer; you shall cry, and he will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you take away the yoke from your midst, the pointing of the finger, and speaking wickedness,​
Isaiah 58:6-9​
Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.​
Proverbs 21:13​
Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to act. Do not say to your neighbor, “Come back tomorrow and I’ll give it to you”– when you already have it with you.​
Proverbs 3:27-28​
Wash yourself, make yourself clean; put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil. Learn to do good; seek judgment, rebuke the oppressor, defend the orphan, plead for the widow. Please come, and let us reason together, implores Yehovah. Even though your sins are like scarlet, they’ll be white like snow. Though they’re like crimson, they’ll become like wool.​
Isaiah 1:16-18​
Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the belief and is worse than an unbeliever.​
1 Timothy 5:8​
Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.​
Ephesians 4:28​
You yourselves know that these hands ministered to my necessities and to those who were with me. In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Master Yeshuah, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”​
Acts 20:34-35​
Required for what???

Jesus was incapable of saving us to the uttermost....do you realize that is what you promote, a weak incapable Saviour.

May God have mercy on your soul.....everytime someone comes here with this heresy I just ask myself how can anyone be so bold to dethrone Jesus and put their self-effort above His full and completed work.

Obviously you are not understanding the Gospel, how then can you rightly divide God's word???
 
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Required for what???

Jesus was incapable of saving us to the uttermost....do you realize that is what you promote, a weak incapable Saviour.

May God have mercy on your soul.....everytime someone comes here with this heresy I just ask myself how can anyone be so bold to dethrone Jesus and put their self-effort above His full and completed work.

Obviously you are not understanding the Gospel, how then can you rightly divide God's word???
Saying helping the poor is a requirement, according to what the Messiah taught, "give to the poor", is dethroning the Messiah? You people don't even realize how lost you are in your own deception.

http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2019/02/24/give-to-the-poor-and-do-good-works/
 
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theanointedwinner

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A drama show is just a drama show

Enjoy our popcorn and don't be affected by the drama show that deeply

Don't be too impressionable
 

theanointedwinner

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Undergrace is a teacher, she can give a big fat F for the whole semester

I work hard on that thesis paper on "being persuaded"

Took me around a year to even get a disorganized yet condensed idea
 
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Like I stated a requirement for what?

You cannot earn your salvation and you are stating good works save

This is a false!!
Salvation is never earned because it was predestined by God, before anyone did any works, not because good works are not required to inherit the kingdom of God. This is why, "every tree that does not bear good fruit will but cut down". Good fruit is good works.

Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:19​
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
John 15:16​
And the Master replied, “A faithful, sensible manager is one to whom the master can give the responsibility of managing his other household servants and feeding them. If the master returns and finds that the servant has done a good job, there will be a reward. I tell you the truth, the master will put that servant in charge of all he owns.
Luke 12:42-44​
so that you may live a life worthy of the Master and please him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God,
Colossians 1:10​
And God is able to make all favor abound to you, so that having all sufficiency in all things at all times, you may abound in every good work.
2 Corinthians 9:8​
Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
2 Timothy 2:21​
that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:17​
Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom.
James 3:13​
who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
Titus 2:14​
Do everything you can to help Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way and see that they have everything they need. Our people must learn to devote themselves to doing what is good, in order to provide for urgent needs and not live unproductive lives.
Titus 3:13-14​
Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s favor in its various forms.
1 Peter 4:10​
Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,
Titus 3:1​
remembering before our God and Father your work of belief and labor of love and steadfastness of hope in our Master Messiah Yeshuah.
1 Thessalonians 1:3​
So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.
1 Peter 4:19​
Also, the women are to dress themselves in modest clothing, with decency and good sense, not with elaborate hairstyles, gold, pearls, or expensive apparel, but with good works, as is proper for women who affirm that they worship God.
1 Timothy 2:9-10​
Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Master, knowing that in the Master your labor is not in vain.
1 Corinthians 15:58​
So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of belief.
Galatians 6:10​
Share with the set-apart ones who are in need…
Romans 12:13​
All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I had been eager to do all along.
Galatians 2:10​
this is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the Most High, which has come upon my master the king: that you be driven away from mankind and your dwelling place be with the beasts of the field, and you be given grass to eat like cattle and be drenched with the dew of heaven; and seven periods of time will pass over you, until you recognize that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes. And in that it was commanded to leave the stump with the roots of the tree, your kingdom will be assured to you after you recognize that it is Heaven that rules. Therefore, O king, may my advice be pleasing to you: break away now from your sins by doing righteousness and from your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor, in case there may be a prolonging of your prosperity.’
Daniel 4:24-27​
Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the straps of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry and bring the homeless poor into your house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh? Then shall your light break forth like the dawn, and your healing shall spring up speedily; your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of Yehovah shall be your rear guard. Then you shall call, and Yehovah will answer; you shall cry, and he will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you take away the yoke from your midst, the pointing of the finger, and speaking wickedness,
Isaiah 58:6-9​
Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.
Proverbs 21:13​
Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to act. Do not say to your neighbor, “Come back tomorrow and I’ll give it to you”– when you already have it with you.
Proverbs 3:27-28​
Wash yourself, make yourself clean; put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil. Learn to do good; seek judgment, rebuke the oppressor, defend the orphan, plead for the widow. Please come, and let us reason together, implores Yehovah. Even though your sins are like scarlet, they’ll be white like snow. Though they’re like crimson, they’ll become like wool.
Isaiah 1:16-18​
Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the belief and is worse than an unbeliever.
1 Timothy 5:8​
Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.
Ephesians 4:28​
You yourselves know that these hands ministered to my necessities and to those who were with me. In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Master Yeshuah, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Acts 20:34-35​