Created Beings

[stonesoffire]

Doesn't matter.....EVE was made from ADAM's side and he SAID before the fall SHE WAS flesh......AND ADAM was made in the IMAGE OF GOD--->CHRIST.....HE CAME in the FLESH

and you do not know me very well if you think I need to be told that man did not suffer death until after the fall STONES

Touchy much?

 

[Anidod]

Ok, here’s a teaching.

One area of Scripture that’s usually lost in translation is poetry. Let’s take Psalm 119 for example. Yes, it’s the longest chapter of Scripture, but it’s also an incredible [1]acrostic poem. David weaves each letter of the Hebrew alphabet into the stanzas of this one psalm. How incredible! Unfortunately, most audiences have no way of recognizing it in a translated text.

Another example of unseen poetry is the [2]play on words that readers miss when it comes to Adam and Eve’s clothing in the Garden. It’s found in Genesis 3:21 and Psalm 104:2.

In Genesis 3:21, Moses wrote that God made Adam and Eve garments of “skin” to replace the fig leaves they had wrapped themselves with. The Hebrew word for “skin” in this verse is pronounced ore (like “this one OR that one”).

Psalm 104:2 says, “The LORD wraps himself in light as with a garment.” The actual clothing of God is “light.” The Hebrew word for “light” is also pronounced ore.​

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רא “Ore” Strong’s 216 – light

רע “Ore” Strong’s 5785 – skin

The phonetic pronunciation of these two words are identical, yet they mean two very different things. Both words are spelled with a silent first letter (the aleph for “light” and the aiyin for “skin) followed by the resh.

Many rabbis believe that Adam and Eve, being made in the image of God, went from being clothed in ore (light) to being clothed in ore (skin). Upon sinning they exchanged a nature of light for a nature of flesh. See the wonderful play on words?

Genesis 3:7 says, “The eyes of [Adam and Eve] were opened, and they knew that they were naked.” The Hebrew word for “knew” in this verse is yada. It means “to learn, to perceive, to have knowledge of.” Many rabbis interpret that this verse is saying Adam and Eve yada (learned) that they had just become naked, whereas they had beforehand been clothed in “light.”



REFLECTING


Boiling down to the main point, Adam and Eve being clothed in “light” and “skin” has deeper meanings that just what they wore. It points to the spiritual side as well.

Man, like God, was wrapped in light before the Fall. But, when sin entered the world, darkness followed and light was exchanged for skin/flesh, a nature opposite of God who is spirit (John 4:24).

By the sin of the first Adam we are naturally born as children of “flesh.” But through the death of the second Adam (Yeshua), we have the opportunity to be reborn as children of “light” (1 Thess. 5:5).

Yeshua, the Light of the World, calls you and I to become the light of the world (Matthew 5:14). We do this by putting off our old self and putting on our new self (Eph. 4:22-24).

So…

What will you clothe yourself with? Light “ore” skin?

This is the first time I read this and i'm glad I did. I think it's beautiful, I can see why you agree with this understanding.

 

[dcontroversal]

Ok, here’s a teaching.

One area of Scripture that’s usually lost in translation is poetry. Let’s take Psalm 119 for example. Yes, it’s the longest chapter of Scripture, but it’s also an incredible [1]acrostic poem. David weaves each letter of the Hebrew alphabet into the stanzas of this one psalm. How incredible! Unfortunately, most audiences have no way of recognizing it in a translated text.

Another example of unseen poetry is the [2]play on words that readers miss when it comes to Adam and Eve’s clothing in the Garden. It’s found in Genesis 3:21 and Psalm 104:2.

In Genesis 3:21, Moses wrote that God made Adam and Eve garments of “skin” to replace the fig leaves they had wrapped themselves with. The Hebrew word for “skin” in this verse is pronounced ore (like “this one OR that one”).

Psalm 104:2 says, “The LORD wraps himself in light as with a garment.” The actual clothing of God is “light.” The Hebrew word for “light” is also pronounced ore.​

​

רא “Ore” Strong’s 216 – light

רע “Ore” Strong’s 5785 – skin

The phonetic pronunciation of these two words are identical, yet they mean two very different things. Both words are spelled with a silent first letter (the aleph for “light” and the aiyin for “skin) followed by the resh.

Many rabbis believe that Adam and Eve, being made in the image of God, went from being clothed in ore (light) to being clothed in ore (skin). Upon sinning they exchanged a nature of light for a nature of flesh. See the wonderful play on words?

Genesis 3:7 says, “The eyes of [Adam and Eve] were opened, and they knew that they were naked.” The Hebrew word for “knew” in this verse is yada. It means “to learn, to perceive, to have knowledge of.” Many rabbis interpret that this verse is saying Adam and Eve yada (learned) that they had just become naked, whereas they had beforehand been clothed in “light.”



REFLECTING


Boiling down to the main point, Adam and Eve being clothed in “light” and “skin” has deeper meanings that just what they wore. It points to the spiritual side as well.

Man, like God, was wrapped in light before the Fall. But, when sin entered the world, darkness followed and light was exchanged for skin/flesh, a nature opposite of God who is spirit (John 4:24).

By the sin of the first Adam we are naturally born as children of “flesh.” But through the death of the second Adam (Yeshua), we have the opportunity to be reborn as children of “light” (1 Thess. 5:5).

Yeshua, the Light of the World, calls you and I to become the light of the world (Matthew 5:14). We do this by putting off our old self and putting on our new self (Eph. 4:22-24).

So…

What will you clothe yourself with? Light “ore” skin?

That all sounds good......except for a few facts.......JEWISH rabbis <--which ones....JESUS said they were blind leaders of the blind in his day and even unto this DAY the JEWS are blinded to the truth....so.....who taught that?

2nd....THIS flies in the face of every verse which states clearly that man was made FLESH, that EVE was made from ADAMS FLESH and BONES and the fact that JESUS came in FLESH....and HE is the one that made MAN in HIS IMAGE......

BEFORE the FALL
And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his sides and closed up the flesh in its place;

And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.’

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul’

Breath of life is LIVES in HEBREW and is PLURAL <---3 or more....Intellectual life, PHYSICAL life, SPIRITUAL life

 

[dcontroversal]

Touchy much?

NO not at all, but for sure I despise JEWISH mysticism being peddled as truth over the bible.....and too be frank....some of the stuff you push as truth Stones directly contradicts the word of GOD....I say this with all due respect because I do actually like you

 

[dcontroversal]

This is the first time I read this and i'm glad I did. I think it's beautiful, I can see why you agree with this understanding.

Read post 43....ADAM and Eve were flesh......not beings of light..........the bible trumps ALL JEWISH mysticism

 

[stonesoffire]

I will never understand why the church will not read Jewish writings.

 

[stonesoffire]

NO not at all, but for sure I despise JEWISH mysticism being peddled as truth over the bible.....and too be frank....some of the stuff you push as truth Stones directly contradicts the word of GOD....I say this with all due respect because I do actually like you

Please post it.

 

[dcontroversal]

Paul said we are the children of light after one has been saved....I do not see anyone glowing like beings of light....maybe because we are FLESH.....just as ADAM and EVE were before the fall...........

And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his sides and closed up the flesh in its place;

And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.’

 

[dcontroversal]

I will never understand why the church will not read Jewish writings.

MAYBE because the bible tells us to pay heed to the inspired word of GOD and not JEWISH mystics and or Rabbis..........other than JESUS or those inspired to pen the word

 

[stonesoffire]

Jesus was and is the Light of the world but it’s recorded only one time what He looks likes IN THE SPIRIT that was shown to the three.

We are not yet manifested here but we certainly are in the spiritual realm.

 

[stonesoffire]

MAYBE because the bible tells us to pay heed to the inspired word of GOD and not JEWISH mystics and or Rabbis..........other than JESUS or those inspired to pen the word

Decontroversal! The Bible is Jewish writing! I know, you know. But do you really?

 

[stonesoffire]

It’s translation by the way, not mysticism. The Hebrews know their Hebrew. Lol

 

[dcontroversal]

Decontroversal! The Bible is Jewish writing! I know, you know. But do you really?

Nice twist Stones and beneath you and you KNOW good and WELL I am contradicting the INSPIRED word of GOD against the JEWISH rabbis/mystics YOU are referencing....man I cannot believe you would sink that LOW to pull that crappy card out of the pile and try to play it......very very deceptive Stones

 

[dcontroversal]

It’s translation by the way, not mysticism. The Hebrews know their Hebrew. Lol

Not hardly......if ANY HEBREW knew the HEBREW it was the RABBIS of the days of JESUS, including PAUL.....and they ALL had it wrong, were called BLIND, dead men and that they had NO UNDERSTANDING of what they were reading.....man you are really playing a pair of deuces in a high stakes poker game

 

[stonesoffire]

Not hardly......if ANY HEBREW knew the HEBREW it was the RABBIS of the days of JESUS, including PAUL.....and they ALL had it wrong, were called BLIND, dead men and that they had NO UNDERSTANDING of what they were reading.....man you are really playing a pair of deuces in a high stakes poker game

I don’t gamble. Never played poker in my life.

 

[stonesoffire]

Nice twist Stones and beneath you and you KNOW good and WELL I am contradicting the INSPIRED word of GOD against the JEWISH rabbis/mystics YOU are referencing....man I cannot believe you would sink that LOW to pull that crappy card out of the pile and try to play it......very very deceptive Stones

What’s deceptive? The Bible is Jewish writing out of eastern thought. Nothing like western. And the Hebrew has not changed except from symbols to their letters.

I am not deceptive and that’s a very rude comment.

 

[stonesoffire]

Decon, tell me please what inspired means to you.

 

[dcontroversal]

What’s deceptive? The Bible is Jewish writing out of eastern thought. Nothing like western. And the Hebrew has not changed except from symbols to their letters.

I am not deceptive and that’s a very rude comment.

Sorry, but what you did was deceptive....and you know better....and you know what I was contradicting the INSPIRED WORD OF GOD which contains BOTH HEBREW and GREEK against JEWISH rabbis.......and the way you responded was not very nice or biblical at all......

 

[cgneustar]

If we as humans are created beings likes angels, does that mean God breathed in angels also?

The men of heaven, which are angels, have the same airflow of life as the earthly man, for just as the woman was made in the representation of man, so man was made in the representation of angels, and all share similarities in the flesh that each were made as, angels, man, and woman, to all be representations of God in various ways.

 

[cgneustar]

If we as humans are created beings likes angels, does that mean God breathed in angels also?

Read this bible study describing the bodies of angels and the bodies of man, http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/08/2...-word-spirit-the-identity-of-the-wind-of-god/ .