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7seasrekeyed
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these women are an embarrassment to all NORMAL women everywhere
Alyssa Milano Calls For A "Sex-Strike" Due To Additional States' New "Heartbeat" Bills
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these women are an embarrassment to all NORMAL women everywhere
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kaylagrl
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"Get it all on record now. Get the films, get the witnesses because somewhere down the track of history some "explicative" will get up and say this never happened. Eisenhower
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7seasrekeyed
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I honestly do not know why anyone keeps any conversation going with ratmouse
his entire argument goes something like this:
rat: you say water is wet but I hold it is not because I myself have not verified it
other person: everyone in the world knows water is wet. there is evidence through the entire world that water is wet
rat: that is your opinion. I have not felt water so therefore it is not wet
other person: what is the matter with you? how can you say water is not wet when their is nothing but evidence that water is wet
rat: that proves absolutely nothing. what if the people who say water is wet have defective nerves and experience something that is not true? that means water is not wet
other person: (becoming irritated and justifiably so) everyone knows water is wet!
rat: well I don't know that and that makes your statement false
ratmouse cannot get off the exercise wheel in his little cage but he seems to be doing a good job of getting others to join him on it
his entire argument goes something like this:
rat: you say water is wet but I hold it is not because I myself have not verified it
other person: everyone in the world knows water is wet. there is evidence through the entire world that water is wet
rat: that is your opinion. I have not felt water so therefore it is not wet
other person: what is the matter with you? how can you say water is not wet when their is nothing but evidence that water is wet
rat: that proves absolutely nothing. what if the people who say water is wet have defective nerves and experience something that is not true? that means water is not wet
other person: (becoming irritated and justifiably so) everyone knows water is wet!
rat: well I don't know that and that makes your statement false
ratmouse cannot get off the exercise wheel in his little cage but he seems to be doing a good job of getting others to join him on it
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kaylagrl
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I honestly do not know why anyone keeps any conversation going with ratmouse
his entire argument goes something like this:
rat: you say water is wet but I hold it is not because I myself have not verified it
other person: everyone in the world knows water is wet. there is evidence through the entire world that water is wet
rat: that is your opinion. I have not felt water so therefore it is not wet
other person: what is the matter with you? how can you say water is not wet when their is nothing but evidence that water is wet
rat: that proves absolutely nothing. what if the people who say water is wet have defective nerves and experience something that is not true? that means water is not wet
other person: (becoming irritated and justifiably so) everyone knows water is wet!
rat: well I don't know that and that makes your statement false
ratmouse cannot get off the exercise wheel in his little cage but he seems to be doing a good job of getting others to join him on it
Point taken …
The word is conspiracy. He was as guilty as Himmler and Goebbels, if he knew and did nothing to stop it. Besides he tried himself. Poison and a bullet to the temple was his self imposed punishment. It was probley less pain full than the ways the Russians or Patton would have finished him off.
Isn't that the crux of the issue? To convict someone of a crime, first, the precise detail of the crime/s should be established. In this case, whether deliberate or circumstantial abuse of prisoners, or murder of the same, or systematic murder of those of a particular group etc. Then a link to establish this came about as a directive. Certainly, the number/s of prisoners this would apply to would be important, also their names. Or perhaps it was a crime of negligence, in that the accused should have been aware, but wasn't. To my thinking, a directive would be far more evil than negligence.
I simply try to respond to what is said. There are so many emotional appeals being made, which seem to rely on the horrific nature of what is alleged rather than evidence, to be accepted. I believe the debate started when I indicated that the Communists did and still do treat many Christians far worse than the Nazis treated detainees at their concentration camps.
Guilty of a different crime. However, I don't know there is proof that Hitler even knew of any mass gassings of concentration camp detainees, let alone ordered them.
Patton was not a criminal, to my knowledge. I doubt Patton would have been evil in exacting any justice upon Hitler, and therefore, I doubt Hitler's punishment would have been any more painful under General Patton (if left solely to Patton, which it likely would not have been).
This said, I don't believe there ever was adequate evidence to prove that Hitler even died. Even Stalin (a far worse murderer than Hitler, to my mind) indicated later in the year that he believed Hitler had escaped to Spain.
I didn't hint that Patton was evil however If Hitler was found guilty of accessory to crimes against humanity the death penalty would most surely be in order. Don't forget Patton slapped for being a coward that was in the hospital for shell shock. I would certainly agree Stalin had it comming too.
If Hitler or Stalin were guilty of the crimes for which they are accused. I would shutter to think of the punishment that God would inflict upon them. the worst men could do Is to keel haul and draw and quarter them.
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UnderGrace
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I highly doubt that Hitler viewed his suicide as self-imposed punishment.
Of course it cant be proven this side of heaven...well maybe when the 144,000 are eventually evealed, but maybr one of the saddest aspects of WW I and WW II was that it probably was brother against brother.
Of course any human doing evil against another human, no matter the lineages is a tragedy. Still most would agree the horror is driven even deeper home when it is family destroying each other.
Of course any human doing evil against another human, no matter the lineages is a tragedy. Still most would agree the horror is driven even deeper home when it is family destroying each other.
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UnderGrace
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Ah, look at what I stumbled across today, reading the paper online, I came upon an article about D-Day, WW II.
RARE COLOR FOOTAGE at around 2:50 to 3:30 of concentration camp bodies.
Warning, some of it is sickening, even if it was published by a major NY mainstream family newspaper.
Of course the cynic and bumbling intellect on this thread will come up with some moronic excuse of why it's not valid, (but, psst, don't anyone tell him, ruin his party), it is the real deal. These things really happened !!
https://nypost.com/2019/06/05/d-day-comes-to-life-in-rare-color-film-75-years-later/
RARE COLOR FOOTAGE at around 2:50 to 3:30 of concentration camp bodies.
Warning, some of it is sickening, even if it was published by a major NY mainstream family newspaper.
Of course the cynic and bumbling intellect on this thread will come up with some moronic excuse of why it's not valid, (but, psst, don't anyone tell him, ruin his party), it is the real deal. These things really happened !!
https://nypost.com/2019/06/05/d-day-comes-to-life-in-rare-color-film-75-years-later/
D-Day comes to life in rare color film, 75 years later
By Lia Eustachewich
June 5, 2019 | 1:59pm | Updated
It was supposed to be a personal memento — but became a rare piece of D-Day history.
George Stevens climbed aboard the HMS Belfast 75 years ago to capture black-and-white recordings of the Allied troops in World War II as they traveled through Normandy, liberated Paris and fought in the Battle of the Bulge.
But all the while, the award-winning director was also shooting in color with his 16-millimeter camera for a personal video journal.
That footage — a unique glimpse into one of the most historic moments in world history — was unearthed by Stevens’ son in 1980, five years after the moviemaker’s death.
Stevens’ son, now 87, came across the reels of color film in storage one day — and knew instantly that they were no ordinary home videos.
“I was sitting alone, and on the screen came images of a gray day and rough seas and a large ship and barrage balloons up in the sky,” Stevens Jr. recalled. “And I realized it was D-Day.”
“And I realized that my eyes were probably the first other than those who were there to see this in color,” he continued. “I’m watching this footage and seeing the men on the ship … and around the corner walks into the frame a man with a helmet and a flak jacket. It’s my 37-year-old father on the morning of D-Day.”
By Lia Eustachewich
June 5, 2019 | 1:59pm | Updated
It was supposed to be a personal memento — but became a rare piece of D-Day history.
George Stevens climbed aboard the HMS Belfast 75 years ago to capture black-and-white recordings of the Allied troops in World War II as they traveled through Normandy, liberated Paris and fought in the Battle of the Bulge.
But all the while, the award-winning director was also shooting in color with his 16-millimeter camera for a personal video journal.
That footage — a unique glimpse into one of the most historic moments in world history — was unearthed by Stevens’ son in 1980, five years after the moviemaker’s death.
Stevens’ son, now 87, came across the reels of color film in storage one day — and knew instantly that they were no ordinary home videos.
“I was sitting alone, and on the screen came images of a gray day and rough seas and a large ship and barrage balloons up in the sky,” Stevens Jr. recalled. “And I realized it was D-Day.”
“And I realized that my eyes were probably the first other than those who were there to see this in color,” he continued. “I’m watching this footage and seeing the men on the ship … and around the corner walks into the frame a man with a helmet and a flak jacket. It’s my 37-year-old father on the morning of D-Day.”
He knew it would be better than allowing himself to stand trial for his war crimes. Plus, his grand scheme failed. He failed.
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UnderGrace
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Yes I understand this, however he was not inflicting punishment he was demonstrating his ultimate cowardice as the Russians were at the door.
It could have been six of one and half a dozen of the other. Cowardice would also be seen as a weakness by him. He failed and he knew it. Isn't that why people kill themselves? Punishment means rough handling. Suicide certainly qualifies.