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"All creation is living"
This could be true if you say everything is part of God and God is alive.
But if only things that can move by choice are living, and everything else just is pushed around,
then everything is not living.
A created being is one that comes into existence in time, though made up from other things, only
exists when those things are brought together in a particular way. The being ceases to exist when
those things are taken apart.
In biblical thought creation is separate from God, not of His essence.
So when we come to faith, we become in communion with God, but not before.
This could be true if you say everything is part of God and God is alive.
But if only things that can move by choice are living, and everything else just is pushed around,
then everything is not living.
A created being is one that comes into existence in time, though made up from other things, only
exists when those things are brought together in a particular way. The being ceases to exist when
those things are taken apart.
In biblical thought creation is separate from God, not of His essence.
So when we come to faith, we become in communion with God, but not before.
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Well I believe our current state is not how it was at the beginning, so I think that all creation is living. Adam didn't have to work in labor to maintain the ground etc., possibly because it maintained itself? (just thinking out loud)
Where does this verse stand?
Romans 11 :36
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
Where does this verse stand?
Romans 11 :36
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
There is not a metaphysical or Buddhist view of creation.
A lot of these types of languages place knowledge or awareness on to inanimate objects.
What would be more honest is to say spirits could inhabit inanimate objects, but the objects
themselves are just vessels.
For instance my hand is part of my body, and is a tool of my body, but it is not my essence or my
spirit. It does not have a hand spirit etc.
The problem with speculation is one can project anything into existence, but it is only meaningful
if this "thing" has a real interaction with us. The problem with humans is we tend to project life
and significance into everything and end up in idolatry and superstition. It is this superstition which
which led people in Israel to worship even the bronze serpent so Moses had to destroy it.
God is very clear. Life and authority come through Him in His declared ways. Anything outside this
is deception and unreliable, and sinful to seek out. But as people we want to know something special
just for us, to be significant beyond which Christ has declared through the cross. But this is odd because
there is no greater declaration as to our value than this.
A lot of these types of languages place knowledge or awareness on to inanimate objects.
What would be more honest is to say spirits could inhabit inanimate objects, but the objects
themselves are just vessels.
For instance my hand is part of my body, and is a tool of my body, but it is not my essence or my
spirit. It does not have a hand spirit etc.
The problem with speculation is one can project anything into existence, but it is only meaningful
if this "thing" has a real interaction with us. The problem with humans is we tend to project life
and significance into everything and end up in idolatry and superstition. It is this superstition which
which led people in Israel to worship even the bronze serpent so Moses had to destroy it.
God is very clear. Life and authority come through Him in His declared ways. Anything outside this
is deception and unreliable, and sinful to seek out. But as people we want to know something special
just for us, to be significant beyond which Christ has declared through the cross. But this is odd because
there is no greater declaration as to our value than this.
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So by creation I meant natural things made at creation not idols or serpents made of bronze, statues, computers, books etc. Im talking about the ground, water, humans, plants etc each of these are made up of compounds, elements etc that were not created nor ordained by human beings.
Wanting to know more doesn't make me special nor do I believe that if I know something am I better than someone who may not. I also do not require to know the mysteries of old to know that God loves me.
I think simply to know something enables someone to not be deceived and who wants to settle for lies? I don't.
Wanting to know more doesn't make me special nor do I believe that if I know something am I better than someone who may not. I also do not require to know the mysteries of old to know that God loves me.
I think simply to know something enables someone to not be deceived and who wants to settle for lies? I don't.
Stones.....stick to the truth instead of Jewish mysticism.......man was made of DIRT and returns to DIRT when he dies....and EVE was MADE from FLESH <----ADAM said she is FLESH of MY FLESH.....geesh.............
NOW.......If anything I would concede that BOTH in the FLESH shown with the GLORY of GOD as MOSES did and then they LOST that after the fall.......and even that view is nothing more that supposition......
NOW.......If anything I would concede that BOTH in the FLESH shown with the GLORY of GOD as MOSES did and then they LOST that after the fall.......and even that view is nothing more that supposition......
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Doesn't matter.....EVE was made from ADAM's side and he SAID before the fall SHE WAS flesh......AND ADAM was made in the IMAGE OF GOD--->CHRIST.....HE CAME in the FLESH
and you do not know me very well if you think I need to be told that man did not suffer death until after the fall STONES
and you do not know me very well if you think I need to be told that man did not suffer death until after the fall STONES
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Hey, i'm all ears👂😊🙇♀️. I was taught that God did the first sacrifice and therefore clothed them but I think this makes so much more sense, i think? 🤔
Now it makes me wonder, Moses couldn't see God only his glory and if Adam and Eve were clothed in light that could explain why they didn't know they were naked? (thinking out loud)
Now it makes me wonder, Moses couldn't see God only his glory and if Adam and Eve were clothed in light that could explain why they didn't know they were naked? (thinking out loud)
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Where to begin.........MOSES seen the BACKSIDE of GOD and by being in his presence picked up or absorbed the GLORY which began to fade after time..........THEY did not know they were naked because they had no KNOWLEDGE of good and evil......just like the animals of the field have NO knowledge of good and evil and they do not know that they walk around naked............
Ok, here’s a teaching.
One area of Scripture that’s usually lost in translation is poetry. Let’s take Psalm 119 for example. Yes, it’s the longest chapter of Scripture, but it’s also an incredible [1]acrostic poem. David weaves each letter of the Hebrew alphabet into the stanzas of this one psalm. How incredible! Unfortunately, most audiences have no way of recognizing it in a translated text.
Another example of unseen poetry is the [2]play on words that readers miss when it comes to Adam and Eve’s clothing in the Garden. It’s found in Genesis 3:21 and Psalm 104:2.
In Genesis 3:21, Moses wrote that God made Adam and Eve garments of “skin” to replace the fig leaves they had wrapped themselves with. The Hebrew word for “skin” in this verse is pronounced ore (like “this one OR that one”).
רע “Ore” Strong’s 5785 – skin
The phonetic pronunciation of these two words are identical, yet they mean two very different things. Both words are spelled with a silent first letter (the aleph for “light” and the aiyin for “skin) followed by the resh.
Many rabbis believe that Adam and Eve, being made in the image of God, went from being clothed in ore (light) to being clothed in ore (skin). Upon sinning they exchanged a nature of light for a nature of flesh. See the wonderful play on words?
Genesis 3:7 says, “The eyes of [Adam and Eve] were opened, and they knew that they were naked.” The Hebrew word for “knew” in this verse is yada. It means “to learn, to perceive, to have knowledge of.” Many rabbis interpret that this verse is saying Adam and Eve yada (learned) that they had just become naked, whereas they had beforehand been clothed in “light.”
REFLECTING
Boiling down to the main point, Adam and Eve being clothed in “light” and “skin” has deeper meanings that just what they wore. It points to the spiritual side as well.
Man, like God, was wrapped in light before the Fall. But, when sin entered the world, darkness followed and light was exchanged for skin/flesh, a nature opposite of God who is spirit (John 4:24).
By the sin of the first Adam we are naturally born as children of “flesh.” But through the death of the second Adam (Yeshua), we have the opportunity to be reborn as children of “light” (1 Thess. 5:5).
Yeshua, the Light of the World, calls you and I to become the light of the world (Matthew 5:14). We do this by putting off our old self and putting on our new self (Eph. 4:22-24).
So…
What will you clothe yourself with? Light “ore” skin?
One area of Scripture that’s usually lost in translation is poetry. Let’s take Psalm 119 for example. Yes, it’s the longest chapter of Scripture, but it’s also an incredible [1]acrostic poem. David weaves each letter of the Hebrew alphabet into the stanzas of this one psalm. How incredible! Unfortunately, most audiences have no way of recognizing it in a translated text.
Another example of unseen poetry is the [2]play on words that readers miss when it comes to Adam and Eve’s clothing in the Garden. It’s found in Genesis 3:21 and Psalm 104:2.
In Genesis 3:21, Moses wrote that God made Adam and Eve garments of “skin” to replace the fig leaves they had wrapped themselves with. The Hebrew word for “skin” in this verse is pronounced ore (like “this one OR that one”).
Psalm 104:2 says, “The LORD wraps himself in light as with a garment.” The actual clothing of God is “light.” The Hebrew word for “light” is also pronounced ore.
רא “Ore” Strong’s 216 – light
רע “Ore” Strong’s 5785 – skin
The phonetic pronunciation of these two words are identical, yet they mean two very different things. Both words are spelled with a silent first letter (the aleph for “light” and the aiyin for “skin) followed by the resh.
Many rabbis believe that Adam and Eve, being made in the image of God, went from being clothed in ore (light) to being clothed in ore (skin). Upon sinning they exchanged a nature of light for a nature of flesh. See the wonderful play on words?
Genesis 3:7 says, “The eyes of [Adam and Eve] were opened, and they knew that they were naked.” The Hebrew word for “knew” in this verse is yada. It means “to learn, to perceive, to have knowledge of.” Many rabbis interpret that this verse is saying Adam and Eve yada (learned) that they had just become naked, whereas they had beforehand been clothed in “light.”
REFLECTING
Boiling down to the main point, Adam and Eve being clothed in “light” and “skin” has deeper meanings that just what they wore. It points to the spiritual side as well.
Man, like God, was wrapped in light before the Fall. But, when sin entered the world, darkness followed and light was exchanged for skin/flesh, a nature opposite of God who is spirit (John 4:24).
By the sin of the first Adam we are naturally born as children of “flesh.” But through the death of the second Adam (Yeshua), we have the opportunity to be reborn as children of “light” (1 Thess. 5:5).
Yeshua, the Light of the World, calls you and I to become the light of the world (Matthew 5:14). We do this by putting off our old self and putting on our new self (Eph. 4:22-24).
So…
What will you clothe yourself with? Light “ore” skin?
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