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If people want to see how Jesus sees responding in faith looks like. Read the parable of the tax collector vs the pharisee.
Which one went home justified. The one who relied on his works. And all his great dees. Or the one who got on his knnes in prayer calling out to God?
Don’t be a modern day pharisee, be a modern day tax collector. Who falls to their knees in brokenness and calls out to God.
Which one went home justified. The one who relied on his works. And all his great dees. Or the one who got on his knnes in prayer calling out to God?
Don’t be a modern day pharisee, be a modern day tax collector. Who falls to their knees in brokenness and calls out to God.
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so we have been saving it for the last 2000 years for sometime in the future?
whatever happened to 'for the building up of the body'
I'm not entirely surprised by the take on 'gifts' here, revealing an attitude of superiority
however God makes the rain fall on everyone
Christians are being slaughtered right now. I am positive some pray in tongues
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news flash
not happening tomorrow
put away your sword with which you are running through other believers
sifting happens every day FYI. some of the biggest mouths (not referring to this forum) who are all about future events and prophecy are going to need diapers when things do happen
and you can take that to whatever bank you deposit in
not happening tomorrow
put away your sword with which you are running through other believers
sifting happens every day FYI. some of the biggest mouths (not referring to this forum) who are all about future events and prophecy are going to need diapers when things do happen
and you can take that to whatever bank you deposit in
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Your not being truthful. God gave many commands, You want to focus on one. If it was truly about being obedient, you would demand every work God has commanded us would be required for salvation. Not just one.
And you. Ignored what Jesus said. Who went home justified? Was it the one who performed works (obedience to the law) or the one who humbled himself in trut faith in God and God alone?
And you. Ignored what Jesus said. Who went home justified? Was it the one who performed works (obedience to the law) or the one who humbled himself in trut faith in God and God alone?
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Christ fulfilled the law which makes up the covenant for me. I am more than a conqueror in Christ. My salvation is not dependent on me but God and His eternal faithfulness to His promises.
God has remained faithful to Israel even though they have broken Gods covenants many times. Prodigal child time to come back and feast on the goodness of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
God has remained faithful to Israel even though they have broken Gods covenants many times. Prodigal child time to come back and feast on the goodness of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Guilty of breaking shadows that point ahead to real substance.?
Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
Circumcision like water baptism are used in ceremonial laws to preach the suffering of Christ, our bloody husband beforehand (the gospel). They are shadows used in parables of the good thing that did come.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Colossians 2:16-17
Circumcision a sign that speaks of a shadow of things to come.it represents our bloody husband the promised first born, a metaphor reserved for the lord. As a shadow it has no real effect as if it was a moral law. It would not move a person closer or add a distance either way. God is not served by the things seen the corrupted flesh .They are signs not substance, designed for us to hear him not for him . He is the fulfillment.
The foundation of the ceremonial law is found in Exodus 4. It would seem Moses did not honor the sign of the first born as our bloody husband to represent Christ. God had mercy on Moses and sent his wife a gentile She in an act of submission cast the metaphor at the feet of the firstborn. A picture of the gospel in respect to the suffering of Christ beforehand. .Feet are used to represent the gospel.
And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn. And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision. Exodus 4:23-26
circumcision = bloody husband cut first born cut off from the father.
The same with water baptism. Another old testament ceremonial law as a shadow that pointed ahead to the real unseen substance.
It is what the discussion was about in John3:25 . John the last Old testament priest under the order of Levi. John a Levite baptizing Jesus from the tribe of Judah introducing the new order. before Christ began his ministry being sent into the wilderness to signify our scapegoat. Introducing a Kingdom of priest, men and woman as Ambassadors for Christ sent out from all nations, preaching there new tongue the gospel of Christ. Water baptism today is the same things .It show a person has a desire to go out into the world and make disciples for Christ .Planting and watering the seed in a Hope Christ will bring fruit . The fields are white.
Psalm 110:3-5 King James Version (KJV)Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
Hebrews 5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 5:10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
No sign gifts. One bloody husband was enough to appease the Father.
Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
Circumcision like water baptism are used in ceremonial laws to preach the suffering of Christ, our bloody husband beforehand (the gospel). They are shadows used in parables of the good thing that did come.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Colossians 2:16-17
Circumcision a sign that speaks of a shadow of things to come.it represents our bloody husband the promised first born, a metaphor reserved for the lord. As a shadow it has no real effect as if it was a moral law. It would not move a person closer or add a distance either way. God is not served by the things seen the corrupted flesh .They are signs not substance, designed for us to hear him not for him . He is the fulfillment.
The foundation of the ceremonial law is found in Exodus 4. It would seem Moses did not honor the sign of the first born as our bloody husband to represent Christ. God had mercy on Moses and sent his wife a gentile She in an act of submission cast the metaphor at the feet of the firstborn. A picture of the gospel in respect to the suffering of Christ beforehand. .Feet are used to represent the gospel.
And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn. And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision. Exodus 4:23-26
circumcision = bloody husband cut first born cut off from the father.
The same with water baptism. Another old testament ceremonial law as a shadow that pointed ahead to the real unseen substance.
It is what the discussion was about in John3:25 . John the last Old testament priest under the order of Levi. John a Levite baptizing Jesus from the tribe of Judah introducing the new order. before Christ began his ministry being sent into the wilderness to signify our scapegoat. Introducing a Kingdom of priest, men and woman as Ambassadors for Christ sent out from all nations, preaching there new tongue the gospel of Christ. Water baptism today is the same things .It show a person has a desire to go out into the world and make disciples for Christ .Planting and watering the seed in a Hope Christ will bring fruit . The fields are white.
Psalm 110:3-5 King James Version (KJV)Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
Hebrews 5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 5:10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
No sign gifts. One bloody husband was enough to appease the Father.
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You miss the point. There were three specific things Peter instructed MUST be done after believing the gospel of Jesus. Water baptism was one of the those. Another requirement was to repent. Also, the new believer would receive the gift of the Holy Ghost as well. These responsibilities were directed specifically to the New Testament church.
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Water baptism by full immersion is not just a directive, but a commandment of God … regardless of what we doctrinally believe
about the purpose and effect of such:
3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,
5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him:
1John 2:
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
1John 5:
about the purpose and effect of such:
3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,
5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him:
1John 2:
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
1John 5:
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The parable is not comparable at all. The Pharisee was boasting of how "wonderful, faultless" his behavior was compared to others.
Following the God-given commandments provided by Peter at Pentecost has nothing to do with exalting oneself. It is a matter of wanting to be obedient to God. It is the least one can do considering what Jesus did for us.
Luke 18:11-14
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Following the God-given commandments provided by Peter at Pentecost has nothing to do with exalting oneself. It is a matter of wanting to be obedient to God. It is the least one can do considering what Jesus did for us.
Luke 18:11-14
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
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