When to let go-when to hold on?

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Im new to here. And Im going to get real vonerable real fast lol! I have recently left an abusive 20 yr marriage. The grief and flashbacks are crippling me. Im in counselling, care groups, suport groups, reading anything that might help. But I cant turn my spinning mind off, and keep hoping In God to preform a miracle on my husband and restore my family back to His design so we can thrive and be used as a testomony of God grace, capabilities, power and love to others. Hes not making one effort to actually accomplish this and infact has dropped out of our lives fully and made our lives harder abandoning all responsibilities. We did a decade of counselling pre me requesting him leave and I have left 3 previous times. The things hes done are horrific. However, I cant let go of the dreams and the hope in us. Not over the hope in Christ but just the hope in Gods restoration for us. I dont know how to let him go. Or if Im suposed to fight. Advice is, is this a miricle I should keep holding onto and praying for, or is this a stong hold I cant seem to let go of? Or both maybe? Anyone been through separation due to abuse and have advice? Or faced this?
 

blue_ladybug

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This is a pipe dream that you need to let go of. I've been in an abusive relationship myself, and abusers NEVER CHANGE. They don't know how, and many don't want to. Your marriage was over, the very first time he abused you. Since he's long gone, and will NOT be coming back, you need to sever the cord and get a divorce. God never intended marriages to be abusive, and He certainly does not want you to remain in one. Hubby doesn't want to change, so sadly, God won't work in him to help him change. If he truly DID want to change, and asked God to help him, He most definitely would. But God won't force him to change.

It's been 20 years of abuse. Stop being a victim and start being a survivor!! Get a divorce, and try to move past all this with the help of God and all your support groups.
 
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💔😭 Very true and wise words!!! Thabk you for messaging I really appriciate it! Im clinging to the promise that God is a God of miricles and I felt He spoke to me that he will restore my marriage, though clearly He also said Im free to leave. But still youre right Gods not going to force it and he has to choose it for himself, thats very true! Thank you!
 

blue_ladybug

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💔😭 Very true and wise words!!! Thabk you for messaging I really appriciate it! Im clinging to the promise that God is a God of miricles and I felt He spoke to me that he will restore my marriage, though clearly He also said Im free to leave. But still youre right Gods not going to force it and he has to choose it for himself, thats very true! Thank you!
You're welcome. I'm glad I could help. :) 20 years is far too long to keep trying to save something that got destroyed the first time hubby abused you. It's time to accept that it's over, and move on to working on what you CAN change about this whole situation.
 

Subhumanoidal

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I always encourage people to abandon abusive relationships. The abuser rarely changes, so holding on to that idea is a bigger miracle than you realize. Especially in light of free will.
I suspect the bigger issue, for you, is less about "loving" him and more about the idea of saving something you spent so much time in.
As difficult as his disappearing has been in the now, in the long run it's much better. Being separated or divorced does Not mean the abuse will stop. Usually there's at least verbal abuse afterwards. Or harassment.
So you have the best scenario by his leaving. It also helps prevent his attempting to manipulate you. It's hard to heal and recover while still being abused.
But you have a chance for a new start. It may be difficult at first, but it's also the dawn of countless new opportunities. One day you'll look back and wonder how you ever allowed yourself to stay in such a situation for so long, and possibly have a greater appreciation for what you have.
 

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There are many of us who have told of our horror story on bad marriages or relationships on these pages so please know that you are not alone in this. Hopefully, you will find comfort, support, and understanding from the members of this site. Glad to have you as a member of our family. Welcome to CC.
 
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You're welcome. I'm glad I could help. :) 20 years is far too long to keep trying to save something that got destroyed the first time hubby abused you. It's time to accept that it's over, and move on to working on what you CAN change about this whole situation.
That is so true! Thank you! Those words it was iver the first time he abused you. Never thought of that ever! Thank you!
 
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There are many of us who have told of our horror story on bad marriages or relationships on these pages so please know that you are not alone in this. Hopefully, you will find comfort, support, and understanding from the members of this site. Glad to have you as a member of our family. Welcome to CC.
Is there! Wow! Thats so sad but also so good to know Im not alone and suport is out there! Thank you for sharing that! ❤️
 
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Choosejoy,
if you dig deep, you will see that God has already given you the answers that you need to 'move-on', by your own revealing post,
don't play out your own personal game of trying to do what the world would advise -

'Great peace have they that Love Thy Law, and nothing shall offend them' - this is an Holy process, one that we must embrace
and obey on a daily basis, that will bring us great rewards and will keep us moving forward from our past...
a great challenge, but doable through our Trust and Faith in our Lord and Saviour...
 
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Choosejoy,
if you dig deep, you will see that God has already given you the answers that you need to 'move-on', by your own revealing post,
don't play out your own personal game of trying to do what the world would advise -

'Great peace have they that Love Thy Law, and nothing shall offend them' - this is an Holy process, one that we must embrace
and obey on a daily basis, that will bring us great rewards and will keep us moving forward from our past...
a great challenge, but doable through our Trust and Faith in our Lord and Saviour...
Thank you for your wisdom. I have been digging SOO deep but yet I am lost in the word wind of confusion swinging left and right on a dime trying to conclude something. I even fasted yesterday and today to seek clarity and paused all things as to spend deep time this week listening and waiting on direction. Theres opinions on both sides of the fence also and the pastoral counsel said I have to give myself permission to let go and move on. But the feeling to hold on is so powerfully stong. Is that God or unhealthy addition to the toxicity? I cant tell! What is it that you fee I have already concluded by my post?
 
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your DUTY!!! - as you have said about yourself, '= fence-straddler'...

fasting for a few hours, is less than the tip of the 'ice-berg'...
happy trails'...
 

blue_ladybug

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Thank you for your wisdom. I have been digging SOO deep but yet I am lost in the word wind of confusion swinging left and right on a dime trying to conclude something. I even fasted yesterday and today to seek clarity and paused all things as to spend deep time this week listening and waiting on direction. Theres opinions on both sides of the fence also and the pastoral counsel said I have to give myself permission to let go and move on. But the feeling to hold on is so powerfully stong. Is that God or unhealthy addition to the toxicity? I cant tell! What is it that you fee I have already concluded by my post?
That is the woman in you who is still holding out hope of regaining something that was lost long ago. No spouse ever wants to admit that their marriage is over, due to whatever circumstance. Hubby abused you for 20 YEARS. He left you, he's gone and won't be back. You need to get a divorce, and rid yourself of this toxic addiction.

What I conclude from your post is, that you're fighting a battle that was lost long ago, and you don't want to admit defeat. The sooner you DO admit defeat, the sooner you will realize that this farce of a marriage was over and done the first time he abused you. Only then will you be able to rid yourself of this unhealthy toxic addiction, and find some healing by calling on God and your support groups.

He's gotten on with his life and hasn't looked back. Now it's time for YOU to move on with your life. Look back only if you want to see what will keep continuing to happen if you keep holding onto something that isn't there anymore.
 
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Youre oh so right! Conviction, that is where I am stuck, 100% that is truth, as hard as that was to read! Heavy! But Thank you for speaking into this for me! I truly appreciate it sincerely! 💔❤️
 
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I always encourage people to abandon abusive relationships. The abuser rarely changes, so holding on to that idea is a bigger miracle than you realize. Especially in light of free will.
I suspect the bigger issue, for you, is less about "loving" him and more about the idea of saving something you spent so much time in.
As difficult as his disappearing has been in the now, in the long run it's much better. Being separated or divorced does Not mean the abuse will stop. Usually there's at least verbal abuse afterwards. Or harassment.
So you have the best scenario by his leaving. It also helps prevent his attempting to manipulate you. It's hard to heal and recover while still being abused.
But you have a chance for a new start. It may be difficult at first, but it's also the dawn of countless new opportunities. One day you'll look back and wonder how you ever allowed yourself to stay in such a situation for so long, and possibly have a greater appreciation for what you have.
Thank you all sooo true!! Thank you so much! Definitely a big part is saving something I put so much into. But many other factors. But you are right it really is the best case scenario to have him check out for me and for thr kids. They are safe now. No manipulations and on going trauma etc. This is def a blessing in that way!! That is true it is a new start with new opportunities and that could be exciting! Good perspective! Thanks!!
 

Subhumanoidal

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Thank you all sooo true!! Thank you so much! Definitely a big part is saving something I put so much into. But many other factors. But you are right it really is the best case scenario to have him check out for me and for thr kids. They are safe now. No manipulations and on going trauma etc. This is def a blessing in that way!! That is true it is a new start with new opportunities and that could be exciting! Good perspective! Thanks!!
Also with kids involved, it's especially good. They can grow to repeat his behavior if he's around. With him gone that poor example of what a 'man/husband/father' is is gone as well.
 
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Also with kids involved, it's especially good. They can grow to repeat his behavior if he's around. With him gone that poor example of what a 'man/husband/father' is is gone as well.
Yes thats so very true!!! Thata actually one of my biggest fears that they learn tonrepeat or learn to accet this as adults and become abusive or be abused! Sonthats very true! Thank you for thr reminder!!!!
 
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An abusive man has already abandoned his family. If he has abandoned providing for his household he is worse than an unbeliever per 1 Timothy 5:8.
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
1 TIMOTHY 5:8 NASB

This is a sin that is unto death, which does not mean he can't repent or be drawn back to repentance by the Lord, but that as Paul out it in his letter to Corinth. In 1 corithinans 5:5 Paul says to hand a man over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that God can save his soul. I know this man isn't abusing his family in the same way, but he is having an affair with his fathers wife, which is a whole other can of worms. However I say this because your husband has abandoned his family in his abuses, and does not provide for them in his neglect. Now according to scripture he is worse than an unbeliever (worse than) according to scripture. Being engaged in behavior that categorically makes you worse than an unbeliever is likely what John means by sin unto death in this passage;
If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this.
1 JOHN 5:16 NASB
Which I would say is comparatively similar to the situation in which Paul says put this man out so Satan can destroy his flesh; but this is not necessarily the end for this guy because Paul adds that God may save his soul. And indeed later you find in the second letter to the Corinthians, Paul says to accept the man back into the fellowship;
But if any has caused sorrow, he has caused sorrow not to me, but in some degree—in order not to say too much—to all of you. Sufficient for such a one is this punishment which was inflicted by the majority, so that on the contrary you should rather forgive and comfort him, otherwise such a one might be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. Wherefore I urge you to reaffirm your love for him. For to this end also I wrote, so that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things. But one whom you forgive anything, I forgive also; for indeed what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, I did it for your sakes in the presence of Christ, so that no advantage would be taken of us by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his schemes.
2 CORINTHIANS 2:5‭-‬11 NASB

So with out the action taken in 1corinthians the reconciliation of 2 Corinthians isn't possible.

Ok to my point.
He is in the place of one who is worse than an infidel, and must be put out for a time until he repents. This is his only hope.
As for you, what you can do is pray that his sin is ever before him. That the holy spirit convict him day and night for his sins until he breaks under the load of his sin and convinces him of his need for Christ so that he repents. And for you that the spirit of the Lord be your strength and wisdom and comfort that will continually seek an intimate relationship with Christ.

I hope that I am clear and that it is helpful. If not I do apologise.
 

Subhumanoidal

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Yes thats so very true!!! Thata actually one of my biggest fears that they learn tonrepeat or learn to accet this as adults and become abusive or be abused! Sonthats very true! Thank you for thr reminder!!!!
If your kids are old enough to have memories of his behavior it may be worth it to get them a little counseling, if possible.
Both to help cope with their dad leaving as well as an outside influence speaking against his behavior.