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Good day Webershome,
It's not a Jekyll and Hyde personality. While God is full of grace, loving and merciful, He is also a God of righteous judgment, which isn't overridden by those other characteristics.
God's grace and His mercy, His offer of salvation is for the living: Today is the day of salvation. Seek the Lord while He may be found. That said, God's grace and His mercy and the offer of salvation are not in operation for those who die in their sins.
The word of God states that "the reward for sin is death" and Jesus paid that penalty on behalf of all believers. Those who die in unbelief will die in their sins, where at which point God's grace, mercy, love and forgiveness are no longer in operation for those individuals. The unrighteous dead will stand before God at the great white throne judgment, with each person being held accountable for every sin and every idle word and will suffer eternal punishment in the lake of fire because of it.
That all sin is being committed against a Holy and Righteous God, is the reason for the eternal punishment. There is no Jekyll and Hyde personality, but they are only different characteristics of the same God.
It's not a Jekyll and Hyde personality. While God is full of grace, loving and merciful, He is also a God of righteous judgment, which isn't overridden by those other characteristics.
God's grace and His mercy, His offer of salvation is for the living: Today is the day of salvation. Seek the Lord while He may be found. That said, God's grace and His mercy and the offer of salvation are not in operation for those who die in their sins.
The word of God states that "the reward for sin is death" and Jesus paid that penalty on behalf of all believers. Those who die in unbelief will die in their sins, where at which point God's grace, mercy, love and forgiveness are no longer in operation for those individuals. The unrighteous dead will stand before God at the great white throne judgment, with each person being held accountable for every sin and every idle word and will suffer eternal punishment in the lake of fire because of it.
That all sin is being committed against a Holy and Righteous God, is the reason for the eternal punishment. There is no Jekyll and Hyde personality, but they are only different characteristics of the same God.
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Hello Tourist!
People are indeed pouring into Hades 24/7. Jesus spoke about the rich man of Lazarus fame as having already taken place. Both men died and Lazarus' spirit was taken to Abraham's side to the place of comfort within Sheol/Hades, where the rich man's spirit was on the other side in torment in flame.
"So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony."
Everyone who dies rejecting Christ dies in their sins and go down into Sheol/Hades where they begin their punishment. After the millennial period the great white throne judgment will take place with all of the spirits of the unrighteous dead being released from Hades and receiving a resurrected body mete for punishment and will stand before God to be judged:
"Then I saw a great white throne and the One seated on it. Earth and heaven fled from His presence, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne.
And there were open books, and one of them was the book of life. And the dead were judged according to their deeds, as recorded in the books. The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead, and each one was judged according to his deeds.
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire. And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
Throughout all of history, as well as at this posting, the unfaithful have been arriving and accumulating in Sheol/Hades where they are in torment in flame. This will continue right up to the great white throne judgment, where they will be judged and sentenced, only to be thrown into the lake of fire, which is the second death and the final punishment.
Think of it this way, God already knows the fate of the unrighteous where He begins their punishment in Hades in torment in flame at the time of their deaths. In other words, the great white throne judgment does not have to take place before they can begin their punishment. The judgment will be a legal proceeding where all of their sins will be revealed and accounted for.
People are indeed pouring into Hades 24/7. Jesus spoke about the rich man of Lazarus fame as having already taken place. Both men died and Lazarus' spirit was taken to Abraham's side to the place of comfort within Sheol/Hades, where the rich man's spirit was on the other side in torment in flame.
"So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony."
Everyone who dies rejecting Christ dies in their sins and go down into Sheol/Hades where they begin their punishment. After the millennial period the great white throne judgment will take place with all of the spirits of the unrighteous dead being released from Hades and receiving a resurrected body mete for punishment and will stand before God to be judged:
"Then I saw a great white throne and the One seated on it. Earth and heaven fled from His presence, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne.
And there were open books, and one of them was the book of life. And the dead were judged according to their deeds, as recorded in the books. The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead, and each one was judged according to his deeds.
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire. And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
Throughout all of history, as well as at this posting, the unfaithful have been arriving and accumulating in Sheol/Hades where they are in torment in flame. This will continue right up to the great white throne judgment, where they will be judged and sentenced, only to be thrown into the lake of fire, which is the second death and the final punishment.
Think of it this way, God already knows the fate of the unrighteous where He begins their punishment in Hades in torment in flame at the time of their deaths. In other words, the great white throne judgment does not have to take place before they can begin their punishment. The judgment will be a legal proceeding where all of their sins will be revealed and accounted for.
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You are correct in that, Hell (the lake of fire) has received no one yet. However, Sheol/Hades which is the place of departed spirits and a place of torment in flame, has been receiving people throughout all of history and will continue to do so right up to the great white throne judgment. Sheol/Hades is a holding place for the wicked until the final judgment.
What about the deceived that think they are serving Christ? Is God going to punish them for following the wrong Christ? What I think is God is not dealing with them spiritually as yet, but they will have a chance to follow the true Christ. God is much kinder than most Christians paint Him. 
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What about the deceived that think they are serving Christ? Is God going to punish them for following the wrong Christ? What I think is God is not dealing with them spiritually as yet, but they will have a chance to follow the true Christ. God is much kinder than most Christians paint Him.
Yes they as natural man have no faith, new spirit (spirituality) needed to please God .They are not considered spiritual seeing they are led by the spirit of error the god of this world .
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual (unseen) things with spiritual. (unseen) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.1 Corithians 2:12-15
He did one better than keeping it from happening .He found favor on some and forgave the punishment that they could not bear giving some a rest in their works .
Mankind gave up the will of God that could of kept them free from slavery of sin ..Jesus in John 4 said to them that did not have the free will of God and thought it could be replaced by literal bread rather than buying the truth of the gospel . The food needed for our new soul and spirit.... doing the will of God. and not that of the will of the god of this world. It would appear the apostles were walking by sight the wrong manner of spirit as one of the avenues of the father of lies... the lust of the eyes to give a false pride. Doing the will of another. As new creatures it the will of God that works in us both to will and to do his good pleasure .Our source of a will that frees us from the things of this life.
John 4:33-35 King James Version (KJV) Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
Mankind gave up the will of God that could of kept them free from slavery of sin ..Jesus in John 4 said to them that did not have the free will of God and thought it could be replaced by literal bread rather than buying the truth of the gospel . The food needed for our new soul and spirit.... doing the will of God. and not that of the will of the god of this world. It would appear the apostles were walking by sight the wrong manner of spirit as one of the avenues of the father of lies... the lust of the eyes to give a false pride. Doing the will of another. As new creatures it the will of God that works in us both to will and to do his good pleasure .Our source of a will that frees us from the things of this life.
John 4:33-35 King James Version (KJV) Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
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You mean like the Jehovah's Witnesses? The crucified dead body of their
Christ is still deceased; its remains are squirreled away somewhere on Earth
in a condition and a location known only to God.
Whether there's a special punishment awaiting the likes of Jehovah's
Witnesses I don't know, but according to Rom 10:9, Christ's physical
resurrection is one of the two components of Christianity that must be
accepted if one is to have any hope at all of escaping the sum of all fears.
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You mean like the Jehovah's Witnesses? The crucified dead body of their
Christ is still deceased; its remains are squirreled away somewhere on Earth
in a condition and a location known only to God.
Whether there's a special punishment awaiting the likes of Jehovah's
Witnesses I don't know, but according to Rom 10:9, Christ's physical
resurrection is one of the two components of Christianity that must be
accepted if one is to have any hope at all of escaping the sum of all fears.
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this 'stuff' that you are posting, compared to your serial 'former' posts where you 'post after post after post, etc,
and NEVER ANSWER a single person, is obviously showing us that you have had a 'change of heart'!!!
hopefully this is a 'good-thing', and pray God, some of us may learn something new...?
this 'stuff' that you are posting, compared to your serial 'former' posts where you 'post after post after post, etc,
and NEVER ANSWER a single person, is obviously showing us that you have had a 'change of heart'!!!
hopefully this is a 'good-thing', and pray God, some of us may learn something new...?
First of all Hell is not a biblical term used anywhere in the bible. Hell is a mis-transliteration of the word Gehenna, an actual place just south of Jerusalem.
Secondly, no one is in any place of eternal punishment presently or in the future.
Thirdly, the destination of the wicked is to be permanently annihilated.
Right from the beginning, God tells us that we are made from dust and return to dust at death. We do not possess a ghost that flies away to heaven at death or goes to a place or torment.
We were created a living SOUL. Body plus the Spirit or Breath of God equals a living Soul. Death is resting in the grave until the resurrection. That is the consistent view from beginning, to the end of the bible. Jesus was the prototype of that same resurrection all believers will experience in the future.
Any other belief is a mixing of Greek philosophy or pagan ideology, they are all lies and 100 percent unbiblical.
Learn the bible from beginning to end, don't jump half way through the manuel and start quoting out of context scripture from the NT when you do not even know where the origins of those beliefs were first introduced in the bible. ie The Old Testament.
Secondly, no one is in any place of eternal punishment presently or in the future.
Thirdly, the destination of the wicked is to be permanently annihilated.
Right from the beginning, God tells us that we are made from dust and return to dust at death. We do not possess a ghost that flies away to heaven at death or goes to a place or torment.
We were created a living SOUL. Body plus the Spirit or Breath of God equals a living Soul. Death is resting in the grave until the resurrection. That is the consistent view from beginning, to the end of the bible. Jesus was the prototype of that same resurrection all believers will experience in the future.
Any other belief is a mixing of Greek philosophy or pagan ideology, they are all lies and 100 percent unbiblical.
Learn the bible from beginning to end, don't jump half way through the manuel and start quoting out of context scripture from the NT when you do not even know where the origins of those beliefs were first introduced in the bible. ie The Old Testament.
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● Matt 25:41 . .Then he will say to those on his left: Depart from me, you
who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels.
The Greek word for "angels" is aggelos (ang'-el-os) which is one of the
Bible's many ambiguous words. It means messenger; and it isn't limited to
spirit beings.
For example at Matt 11:10 it refers to John the Baptist. A Luke 7:24 it refers
to John's disciples. At Acts 7:53 and Gal 3:19 it refers to divine apparitions
in the form of voices, fire, smoke, earthquakes, and a human likeness. At
Jas 2:25 it refers to the spies that hid out at Rahab's home. At Rev 1:20-
Rev 3:14, the word aggelos refers to high-ranking church officers.
So, we have in view at Matt 25:41 not only spirit beings, but quite possibly
also human beings who serve as messengers for the Devil, e.g. preachers,
ministers, Sunday school teachers, Deacons, missionaries, evangelists,
cultists, etc; whose version of Christianity is a doctored version rather than
Christ's.
● 2Cor 11:13-15 . . For such are false apostles, deceitful workmen,
masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself
masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants
masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their
actions deserve.
I have a personal interest in this matter. My eldest brother is a Friar; he and
I are both now in our mid to late seventies. My brother has been spending
his entire adult life obedient to Rome and propagating Catholicism. If it turns
out that version of Christianity differs from Christ's, then my brother won't
make it to safety when he passes on, and will be branded forever as one of
the Devil's angels. That possibility does not set well with me.
Pop Clock Update: 1,624 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 95,135,544
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
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● Matt 25:41 . .Then he will say to those on his left: Depart from me, you
who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels.
The Greek word for "angels" is aggelos (ang'-el-os) which is one of the
Bible's many ambiguous words. It means messenger; and it isn't limited to
spirit beings.
For example at Matt 11:10 it refers to John the Baptist. A Luke 7:24 it refers
to John's disciples. At Acts 7:53 and Gal 3:19 it refers to divine apparitions
in the form of voices, fire, smoke, earthquakes, and a human likeness. At
Jas 2:25 it refers to the spies that hid out at Rahab's home. At Rev 1:20-
Rev 3:14, the word aggelos refers to high-ranking church officers.
So, we have in view at Matt 25:41 not only spirit beings, but quite possibly
also human beings who serve as messengers for the Devil, e.g. preachers,
ministers, Sunday school teachers, Deacons, missionaries, evangelists,
cultists, etc; whose version of Christianity is a doctored version rather than
Christ's.
● 2Cor 11:13-15 . . For such are false apostles, deceitful workmen,
masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself
masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants
masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their
actions deserve.
I have a personal interest in this matter. My eldest brother is a Friar; he and
I are both now in our mid to late seventies. My brother has been spending
his entire adult life obedient to Rome and propagating Catholicism. If it turns
out that version of Christianity differs from Christ's, then my brother won't
make it to safety when he passes on, and will be branded forever as one of
the Devil's angels. That possibility does not set well with me.
Pop Clock Update: 1,624 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 95,135,544
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
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That interesting even the Son of man Jesus informs us his flesh profits for nothing, zero …. it was dying the first death just any other corrupted flesh .
Right from the beginning, God in respect to his faith as to the glory departed...in the twinkling of the eye corruption of mankind began.....body, spirit and soul.
Natural man not born of the Spirit of Christ will not rise on the last day and receive a new incorruptible body. There will then be no eternal punishment presently or in the future. The wrath of God. The first death is being revealed .Turn on the news.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Right from the beginning, God in respect to his faith as to the glory departed...in the twinkling of the eye corruption of mankind began.....body, spirit and soul.
Natural man not born of the Spirit of Christ will not rise on the last day and receive a new incorruptible body. There will then be no eternal punishment presently or in the future. The wrath of God. The first death is being revealed .Turn on the news.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
it's very clear in the scriptures that 'sins of ignorance' are of a 'much less violation of God's Law -
it's very clear that 'defiant-sins' are a very different story -
let's just think how much easier it is to 'forgive' someone who wrongs us mistakenly -
the standard 'doctrine' of 'many being cast into the 'lake of fire' because they didn't accept Jesus,
or may have had a point of certain doctrines 'wrong', it doesn't 'add-up' -
is God going to 'punish' those that were born with a defective mind? or those who have been born
into 'witch-craft-satanic worship', through no fault of their own?
as it is written:
'I speak to them in parables so that they will not understand, lest they should be converted' -
also the TERM, 'eternal-punishment' can simply mean, in some scriptures, 'permanent death' -
so to reach a conclusion of condemnation for the 'rest of the dead', as to their FATE,
is bending the scriptures to fit 'one of many false doctrines'...
it's very clear that 'defiant-sins' are a very different story -
let's just think how much easier it is to 'forgive' someone who wrongs us mistakenly -
the standard 'doctrine' of 'many being cast into the 'lake of fire' because they didn't accept Jesus,
or may have had a point of certain doctrines 'wrong', it doesn't 'add-up' -
is God going to 'punish' those that were born with a defective mind? or those who have been born
into 'witch-craft-satanic worship', through no fault of their own?
as it is written:
'I speak to them in parables so that they will not understand, lest they should be converted' -
also the TERM, 'eternal-punishment' can simply mean, in some scriptures, 'permanent death' -
so to reach a conclusion of condemnation for the 'rest of the dead', as to their FATE,
is bending the scriptures to fit 'one of many false doctrines'...
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