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2 Timothy 2:15-16
Make every effort to present yourself approved to God, an unashamed workman who accurately handles the word of truth.
16But avoid irreverent, empty chatter, which will only lead to more ungodliness,


1 Timothy 6:20-21
O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you. Avoid irreverent, empty chatter and the opposing arguments of so-called “knowledge,” 21which some have professed and thus swerved away from the faith.

Grace be with you all.c
 

theanointedwinner

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Sometimes I wonder, why can't atheist, agnostics, and secular humanism, ever accept the Gospel like I did?
 

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On May 16, 2019 - I had a question about the Bible, Calibob witnessed to me, i felt dread from the word "out", and I chose to be "in", and Calibob advised me to study the new testament for myself to be grounded in my faith, and I gain better and better understanding of the new testament, amen
Amen. Thure.
 

theanointedwinner

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Unless GOD opens their eyes by faith they will die in their sins........end of story
Lord, I thank you that you open my eyes

I can love you for this, purify my motive

I as that you open their eyes as well, I don't want to be selfish in in keeping all this to myself, to bad they reject, and they don't know what they are missing
 
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That seems like an unusual way to put it, but if you mean what I think you mean, I would have to agree.

We put it this way:

Their is a human spiritual righteousness that is positional, that is instantaneous upon Believing, called SALVATION.

Their is a physical righteousness, that is progressive and a life long work of the Holy Spirit in us, that will be complete at the Resurrection, called SANCTIFICATION.


DO WE AGREE?

That first one is the BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE, and actually comes from these verses.

John 3:3-7 (HCSB)
3 Jesus replied, “I assure you: Unless someone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 “But how can anyone be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked Him. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “I assure you: Unless someone is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
6 Whatever is born of the flesh is flesh, and whatever is born of the Spirit is [the human] spirit.
7 Do not be amazed that I told you that you must be born again.

The life-long process that We Call Sanctification, is the HOLY SPIRIT IN OUR HEART conforming us to Walk Like Christ. In fact in some circles it is simply know as the WALK.
We are in agreement, I would put it slightly differently...

Their is a human spiritual righteousness that is positional, that is instantaneous upon Believing, which is Justification and Positional sanctification..

Their is a physical righteousness, that is progressive and a life long work of the Holy Spirit in us, that will be complete at the Resurrection, called Progressive SANCTIFICATION.

Salvation begins at regeneration and continues unto Glorification, all being the work of God, not our works.

That is why we have a High Priest who is able to save us to the uttermost, seeing He ever lives to make intercession for us.
 

theanointedwinner

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Heretic, I'm not mad at you, instead, I forgive you with the love of Christ

Like 23:34

God loves you, in time you will understand