My Sociology professor said that men should not kneel down when they propose to a woman.

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Socreta93

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My professor is a feminist, he believe men and women should be 100% equal, and he also does not believe in patriarchy. He feels a man should not see himself lower than a women and vice versa. He said a person should only bow to one person, God, and that is it. Any way what do you guys and especially ladies think? Should men have to kneel all the time when they propose to their woman for marriage?
 
Dino246

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I'm just trying to process "My professor is a feminist" and "He said a person should only bow to one person, God."

Those two statements are contradictory. Perhaps your definition of "feminist" and mine are very different.

There is no obligation on the man to kneel when proposing. If a woman rejects his proposal just because he doesn't kneel, he does well to accept her rejection and move on... quickly.
 
Subhumanoidal

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A man kneeling to propose should be a choice he makes. It seems your professor forgets humility does not mean 'making sure i'm always equal'.
Also if you have two people who approach romantic relationships the same way, not trying to be equal, but focused on being loving, equality naturally happens. When people focus on being equal is what causes power struggles because equality can be defined differently by different people.
Also let's not forget in order to wash peoples feet, you kneel before them. Yet Jesus himself did this for his disciples. I wonder what your professor would say to Jesus about that.

If i want to kneel, if i ever propose, i will. Because i choose to. If some emasculated feminist wants to tell me i'm wrong he can go bugger off and be subdued by his feminist counterpart and call that equality.
This goes to show one can be educated and still ignorant.
 
calibob

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Equality dosn't equal being the same. A leader needs a follower and visa versa. Otherwise they are both loners. We get married for the purpose of not being alone, not for being exactly the same. We love others and their differences. We are not robots!
 
TabinRivCA

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I'm a romantic, I like to see the male kneel...….just because it looks so sweet.
 
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Yes he should not kneel down, so the fact that he does is what makes it special.


But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. - Matthew 23:11
 
calibob

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It goes both ways.>

Ruth 3:7 When Boaz had finished eating and drinking and was in good spirits, he went over to lie down at the far end of the grain pile. Ruth approached quietly, uncovered his feet and lay down. 8 In the middle of the night something startled the man; he turned—and there was a woman lying at his feet! 9 “Who are you?” he asked. “I am your servant Ruth,” she said. “Spread the corner of your garment over me, since you are a guardian-redeemer of our family.” 10 “The Lord bless you, my daughter,” he replied. “This kindness is greater than that which you showed earlier: You have not run after the younger men, whether rich or poor. 11 And now, my daughter, don’t be afraid. I will do for you all you ask. All the people of my town know that you are a woman of noble character. NIV
 
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Stranger36147 said:
That's what I was thinking too. It does look like begging when you think about it.
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Wow, I've never thought of it that way. To me the male is showing that he would be honored to have the girl accept him as husband and fyi it does make the girl feel special. If a guy thought he was begging her by kneeling, that's another story.
 
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Socreta93 said:
My professor is a feminist, he believe men and women should be 100% equal, and he also does not believe in patriarchy. He feels a man should not see himself lower than a women and vice versa. He said a person should only bow to one person, God, and that is it. Any way what do you guys and especially ladies think? Should men have to kneel all the time when they propose to their woman for marriage?
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I have been married 3 times and each time I was standing when I proposed. I am batting a 1.000 for receiving a yes each time. There will not be a fourth time however. As for your professor, a man, being a feminist, that term usually applies to females and not males. For the record I believe men and women to be 100% equal too including equal economic opportunity and the same pay for doing the same job.
 
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Dino246 said:
I'm just trying to process "My professor is a feminist" and "He said a person should only bow to one person, God."

Those two statements are contradictory. Perhaps your definition of "feminist" and mine are very different.

There is no obligation on the man to kneel when proposing. If a woman rejects his proposal just because he doesn't kneel, he does well to accept her rejection and move on... quickly.
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I concur with your estimation. I will add also that I would refuse to marry a woman who would not take my last name as her own.
 
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Marriage is about service to your spouse. You put their needs before yours. If a man is asking a woman to accept him as her lifelong lover, protector and provider, it makes sense that he would display an act of humility such as getting down on one knee. He will spend the rest of his marriage humbling himself for his wife and crucifying his own wants and needs in order to build and nourish her, so humbling himself when he asks her is appropriate. Besides, the question is so weighty and life changing. He has bared his heart and become vulnerable for her, and in that moment, he is at her mercy.

I fully intend to get down on one knee when I propose to the woman I love.
 
christian74

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Marriage is a serious business and commitment to give himself selflessly.

That's why proposing in an exorcist walk position, instead of bending one knee, is more "romantic"
because you are literally bending over backward for her, showing your commitment in an unequivocal manner.

While I have hard time bending my mid-section, I am getting there, slowly.



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Lynx

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I'm trying to figure out this professor and his take on the whole thing. What does he think the significance of a man kneeling is? He obviously deemed it important enough that he formed an opinion and stance on the matter, then essayed to educate his class on this matter. But WHY? Why did he think it was important enough for this much attention and effort?
 
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Lynx said:
I'm trying to figure out this professor and his take on the whole thing. What does he think the significance of a man kneeling is? He obviously deemed it important enough that he formed an opinion and stance on the matter, then essayed to educate his class on this matter. But WHY? Why did he think it was important enough for this much attention and effort?
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And think of the ripple effect that it is having. One of this guy's ideas and here are how many people reading about it and some others taking the time to write their own thoughts about it. Kind of interesting how the things we do can affect others and we may never even know it.

Hmmm ain't dat sumsing!:unsure:
 
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