Can a man love ONLY ONE woman?
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I see this thread started back in December, but, it's a great topic so thought I would join in. The answer is if a man loves more than one woman, it's grounds for divorce. And the words, "preferably his wife," and "concurrently," are a little scary. can't find the post, but the lady who said, "I trust him," is the key to all relationships. But, it's a boundary issue also. A married man should not talk with a lady other than his wife in a personal way or personal setting. This can create be a boundary challenge for a pastor or others who must deal with personal issues of non-married members. In that case, they should let another lady guide the person, and get her permission to talk to the pastor about any issues that require more assistance.
As far as the Bible, those concubines were not the norm, and God apparently allowed it because He was dealing with a lot of nutty people and had to just work with what He had to get the job done. But, Solomon, who had concubines, lost his favor with God, and Solomon was unhappy and said "everything was like chasing the wind.". He tried wine, women, working, partying, wealth, building great orchards and irrigation aquaducts, but it was not enough in the end. I think it was because his relationship with God suffered from his lifestyle.
From what it Sounds like here, monkeys, eagles, and swans have more loyalty than most men, except the Lochness dinosaur thing.
As far as the Bible, those concubines were not the norm, and God apparently allowed it because He was dealing with a lot of nutty people and had to just work with what He had to get the job done. But, Solomon, who had concubines, lost his favor with God, and Solomon was unhappy and said "everything was like chasing the wind.". He tried wine, women, working, partying, wealth, building great orchards and irrigation aquaducts, but it was not enough in the end. I think it was because his relationship with God suffered from his lifestyle.
From what it Sounds like here, monkeys, eagles, and swans have more loyalty than most men, except the Lochness dinosaur thing.
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Yes, Solomon did love many. How did that work out for him..............
I wonder if some men took in concubines as charity cases because a woman without a husband or sons was destitute..........
In Proverbs 31, King Lemuel's mother describes a virtuous woman as buying a field, planting a vineyard, making fine linen and selling it................ she sounds very prosperous to me, not a charity case at all, although she does have a husband and children.
What is it that would join ONE man and ONE woman together and both remain faithfully committed and in love for the duration of their marriage till death they do part?
I have come to believe that ONLY with God is it possible for a man to love only his wife and the wife to love only her husband. It takes God.
First, a person needs a loving and faithful commit to God before they can faithfully commit to another person and God has to always remain as "first love" for both of them. God will watch over them and keep them in all their ways.
I wonder if some men took in concubines as charity cases because a woman without a husband or sons was destitute..........
In Proverbs 31, King Lemuel's mother describes a virtuous woman as buying a field, planting a vineyard, making fine linen and selling it................ she sounds very prosperous to me, not a charity case at all, although she does have a husband and children.
What is it that would join ONE man and ONE woman together and both remain faithfully committed and in love for the duration of their marriage till death they do part?
I have come to believe that ONLY with God is it possible for a man to love only his wife and the wife to love only her husband. It takes God.
First, a person needs a loving and faithful commit to God before they can faithfully commit to another person and God has to always remain as "first love" for both of them. God will watch over them and keep them in all their ways.
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Yes, Solomon did love many. How did that work out for him..............
I wonder if some men took in concubines as charity cases because a woman without a husband or sons was destitute..........
In Proverbs 31, King Lemuel's mother describes a virtuous woman as buying a field, planting a vineyard, making fine linen and selling it................ she sounds very prosperous to me, not a charity case at all, although she does have a husband and children.
What is it that would join ONE man and ONE woman together and both remain faithfully committed and in love for the duration of their marriage till death they do part?
I have come to believe that ONLY with God is it possible for a man to love only his wife and the wife to love only her husband. It takes God.
First, a person needs a loving and faithful commit to God before they can faithfully commit to another person and God has to always remain as "first love" for both of them. God will watch over them and keep them in all their ways.
I wonder if some men took in concubines as charity cases because a woman without a husband or sons was destitute..........
In Proverbs 31, King Lemuel's mother describes a virtuous woman as buying a field, planting a vineyard, making fine linen and selling it................ she sounds very prosperous to me, not a charity case at all, although she does have a husband and children.
What is it that would join ONE man and ONE woman together and both remain faithfully committed and in love for the duration of their marriage till death they do part?
I have come to believe that ONLY with God is it possible for a man to love only his wife and the wife to love only her husband. It takes God.
First, a person needs a loving and faithful commit to God before they can faithfully commit to another person and God has to always remain as "first love" for both of them. God will watch over them and keep them in all their ways.
Abraham Sarah, Hagar and Keturah after the death of Sarah and --> Abraham also had many concubines who bore him many sons (Genesis 11:29, 16:3, 25:1, I Chronicles 1:32). “Unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son…” (Genesis 25:6)
Jacob had 2 wives and 2 handmaidens --> God also blessed Jacob who begat the fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel with two wives, Leah and Rachel, and two concubines, Bilhah and Zilpah (Genesis 29:23-30, 30:4-9, 32:22)
David --> The apple of God’s eye, the Psalmist David, blessed man of God, also through whom the Saviour of the world came, had many wives (II Samuel 3:2-5, 5:13)
Gideon --> The Lord is with thee, thou mighty man of valour” (Judges 6:12). “And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives” (Judges 8:30).
Elkanah, a Levite, the father of the prophet Samuel, had two wives, Hannah and Peninnah, and Elkanah was not a rich man (I Samuel 1:1-2)
And numerous other verses that pointed to righteous princes of Judah having numerous wives....
Read --> (Deuteronomy 21:15-17
JUST giving info for your thread...not that I am promoting anything
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Believe it or not I have studied this dia a discussion when in Seminary.....and there were apparent anomalies in the bible....numerous faithful, righteous men had more than one wife......in Solomon's case (he had 1000 women) he was led into error in his old age by building groves unto the idols that the wives he had from the nations around him.....
Abraham Sarah, Hagar and Keturah after the death of Sarah and --> Abraham also had many concubines who bore him many sons (Genesis 11:29, 16:3, 25:1, I Chronicles 1:32). “Unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son…” (Genesis 25:6)
Jacob had 2 wives and 2 handmaidens --> God also blessed Jacob who begat the fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel with two wives, Leah and Rachel, and two concubines, Bilhah and Zilpah (Genesis 29:23-30, 30:4-9, 32:22)
David --> The apple of God’s eye, the Psalmist David, blessed man of God, also through whom the Saviour of the world came, had many wives (II Samuel 3:2-5, 5:13)
Gideon --> The Lord is with thee, thou mighty man of valour” (Judges 6:12). “And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives” (Judges 8:30).
Elkanah, a Levite, the father of the prophet Samuel, had two wives, Hannah and Peninnah, and Elkanah was not a rich man (I Samuel 1:1-2)
And numerous other verses that pointed to righteous princes of Judah having numerous wives....
Read --> (Deuteronomy 21:15-17
JUST giving info for your thread...not that I am promoting anything
Abraham Sarah, Hagar and Keturah after the death of Sarah and --> Abraham also had many concubines who bore him many sons (Genesis 11:29, 16:3, 25:1, I Chronicles 1:32). “Unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son…” (Genesis 25:6)
Jacob had 2 wives and 2 handmaidens --> God also blessed Jacob who begat the fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel with two wives, Leah and Rachel, and two concubines, Bilhah and Zilpah (Genesis 29:23-30, 30:4-9, 32:22)
David --> The apple of God’s eye, the Psalmist David, blessed man of God, also through whom the Saviour of the world came, had many wives (II Samuel 3:2-5, 5:13)
Gideon --> The Lord is with thee, thou mighty man of valour” (Judges 6:12). “And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives” (Judges 8:30).
Elkanah, a Levite, the father of the prophet Samuel, had two wives, Hannah and Peninnah, and Elkanah was not a rich man (I Samuel 1:1-2)
And numerous other verses that pointed to righteous princes of Judah having numerous wives....
Read --> (Deuteronomy 21:15-17
JUST giving info for your thread...not that I am promoting anything
Thank you for all the info!
And numerous other verses that pointed to righteous princes of Judah having numerous wives....
Read --> (Deuteronomy 21:15-17
JUST giving info for your thread...not that I am promoting anything
Read --> (Deuteronomy 21:15-17
JUST giving info for your thread...not that I am promoting anything
15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:
17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.
Yes, it is true that many kings and righteous men had more than one wife. Yet, God only made ONE woman for Adam.............
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Hi dc,
Thank you for all the info!
Deuteronomy 21:15-17 King James Version (KJV)
15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:
17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.
Yes, it is true that many kings and righteous men had more than one wife. Yet, God only made ONE woman for Adam.............
Thank you for all the info!
Deuteronomy 21:15-17 King James Version (KJV)
15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:
17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.
Yes, it is true that many kings and righteous men had more than one wife. Yet, God only made ONE woman for Adam.............
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Even if Solomon loved many strange women, from many strange lands, together with the daughter of Pharoah, I think the point here is that he still could not love many strange women TOGETHER, or strangers together either, probably could be a problem.
Maybe just one woman faithfully from strange lands...
Maybe just one woman faithfully from strange lands...
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Sorry guys, but it really makes me sick to think that a man can't love only one woman and that a man would need more than one woman to be satisfied...I know they had many in the OT, but it still sounds nasty and perverted. Polygamy sounds like nothing but continuous adultery too me, and I don't see how anyone could live in a situation like that...just couldn't imagine the jealousy, hurt feelings, and arguments that would go on in a situation like that....
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soberxp said:
I only know that Confucius said that people are originally good.Man's nature at birth is good.
The bible has this to say about it:
…9The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure—who can understand it? 10I, the LORD, search the heart; I test the mind to reward a man according to his way, by what his deeds deserve.
I only know that Confucius said that people are originally good.Man's nature at birth is good.
The bible has this to say about it:
…9The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure—who can understand it? 10I, the LORD, search the heart; I test the mind to reward a man according to his way, by what his deeds deserve.