Not By Works

theanointedwinner · May 9, 2019

Good point, we almost fall into a trap

, not by man's way, but by God's way

This isn't math or physics where we apply pressure = force/ area

To maximize desired results, nor rush them

Relationship, not by works, rituals, treadmill like maintenance, etc.

corazondeldei · May 9, 2019

NIV1984 James 2:26
As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

No deceiver would ever teach obedience to God and no true Christian would ever teach DISOBEDIENCE TO GOD.

There is nothing new under the sun. If Eve was deceived by the serpent to disobey God, there will be Christians being deceived to disobey God and turn away/abandon the FAITH in these last days.

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

The many like to boast and say LORD LORD have we not done many wonderful works in your name....they get cast....WHY? Because faith plus works for salvation = lie and NO salvation!

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

corazondeldei said:

James does not teach a works based salvation pal.....context proves this....keep riding that works horse to the MANY group and see how you fare when you peddle works before JESUS

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

Those that peddle a works based salvation are false and deceivers.....note the following

What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? "ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

Nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

No matter how one slices and dices JAMES out of context...WORKS do not save or keep saved.........

Who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity,

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

AGAIN....we see that it is NOT by our works and or deeds.........

But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

The workers for and Cainologists can forget earning their way into the Kingdom....self effort and works will not make the grade....

No man can by any means redeem his brother Or give to God a ransom for him-- For the redemption of his soul is costly, And he should cease trying forever

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

corazondeldei · May 9, 2019

NIV1984 Ephesians 1:13
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,

If the gospel of our salvation teaches FAITH ALONE to be saved then we should take away the "LIFE part of the LIFE, death, burial, resurrection of our Lord Jesus which He WALKED/LIVED on this earth for us to WALK/LIVE as He did for being part of His body where we have been included to prepare us for WORKS OF SERVICE.

NIV1984 Ephesians 4:11-16
It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

NIV1984 Ephesians 5:23
For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

corazondeldei said:

NIV1984 Ephesians 1:13
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,

If the gospel of our salvation teaches FAITH ALONE to be saved then we should take away the "LIFE part of the LIFE, death, burial, resurrection of our Lord Jesus which He WALKED/LIVED on this earth for us to WALK/LIVE as He did for being part of His body where we have been included to prepare us for WORKS OF SERVICE.

NIV1984 Ephesians 4:11-16
It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

NIV1984 Ephesians 5:23
For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.

This said nothing nor does it support a works based salvation........If pigs could fly and turkeys speak fluent Mandarin......<----IF IF IF = ZERO

corazondeldei · May 9, 2019

NIV1984 1 Corinthians 12:4-11
There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.

Rosemaryx · May 9, 2019

Woke up after two hours sleep thinking it was morning lol...
Anyways...I was once stuck on James 2:26 once until I actually studied it...
The Holy Spirit will bring forth truth in His right timing , we have to be willing to go beyond our own understanding and not trust in our own thoughts...

Faith without works is dead , because works are the evidence of true saving faith...
Works are the after effect of true saving faith , the works come because God has already planned them out before us to do His works , according to His Will...

Paul and James are by no means in disagreement , it is man who is not willing to go deeper in the Word because he thinks he is right over God's Word , not a good place to be...xox...

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

Rosemaryx said:

AMEN......Good MORNING HAHA......FAITH ALONE saves a MAN eternally........and you know I have always said that works are the result of not the means OF...........

Keep swinging ROSE

corazondeldei · May 9, 2019

NIV1984 1 Timothy 6:3-5
IF anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

NIV1984 1 John 2:3-6
We know that we have come to know him IF we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM. But IF anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

"What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, attained righteousness, even the righteousness which is by faith;

corazondeldei · May 9, 2019

NIV1984 2 Corinthians 11:2
I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him.

There must be some here who were already presented to Christ as a pure virgin apart from the BODY OF CHRIST that Paul was referring to.

What if they are not a pure virgin but are just claiming to have faith?

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

corazondeldei said:

Hilarious that you would quote scripture from a carnal, immature church that had some 15 errors.....AS does not equal IS

dcontroversal · May 9, 2019

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"Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith."

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