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noblenut

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i use to look but now God has set me free and i cant stand to think of what is evil, i also support zoe international a christian charity that helps free trafficked children, if u want to do something support them
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I understand the frustration that one can have with the availability of porn.
We should all have some level of indignance over it. It's one of the most powerful weapons that is formed against us in the free world and has played a big part in destroying the family unit.
 

BillG

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I would be a liar if I said I have never watched porn. When I was younger and not married.
To be honest this is no excuse (because we cannot and should not excuse sin) but I never realised what was going on behind the industry.
I thought they were actors and it was a job.
When I realised that infact for the majority that it wasn't I was horrified.

As I said we cannot excuse or condone sin.

But let's not stop a porn.

What about the clothes we wear, that we buy because they are cheap?

They are imports from poorer countries where people including children are doing a hard day's graft and paid a pittance. Not enough to even put 3 meals a day of the table.
Yet those paying them have a very comfortable life.
Yet knowing this we still buy the clothes.

The same goes for the coffee we drink, the food we eat.
The list could go on and on.
Yet we do not bat an eyelid.

I am not saying my above example is akin to porn in that porn is destructive to those who watch it.

But the point made in the OP does focus on the reasons why people are in porn films.
 
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Jen1167

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I have noticed a lot of people defend porn on here...
The people that, as Christians, that believe porn is ok, not sin.... If you knew those women/men, little girls/little boys are sex trafficked would you think it was sin then? Unless you like geriatric porn....

If your answer is "YES", how do you know they are NOT!!!

To be honest I do not expect any responses from porn watchers, but I hope you read this and are CONVICTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!
Are you serious? I can't believe any Christian would defend porn. They shouldn't even be looking at it. Sad to see on a Christian site
 

BillG

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Yes, what you wrote about is tragic, wrong, but NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE SAME THING!!! BUT ALL CHRISTIANS NEED TO RISE UP TO ALL OF THESE THINGS, YET WE NEVER READ POST ABOUT THEM.... JUST END TIMES, CALVINISM, AND OTHER BEATEN TO DEATH TOPICS (important too) but do don't throw the baby out with the bath water!!!!
No I don't think it's right.
No offence meant and sorry I have offended you.
 
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Which sin is worst, watching pornography or committing spiritual adultery? Which one of these sins are you labeled as "lukewarm?" Which one of these sins can you lose you justification status?
 
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kaylagrl

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Are you serious? I can't believe any Christian would defend porn. They shouldn't even be looking at it. Sad to see on a Christian site

Humm seems someone is reviving an old thread. I don't know anyone here that condones watching porn or doesn't think it is wrong. I have no idea what the OP is talking about. I don't know of any thread here condoning such a thing and I'm sure mods would not be long in removing a post like that.
 
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AuntieAnt

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No I personally do not. But I know what you say is true... I have posted on here my son who struggles with it's memory. He willing gave up his smartphone, and tablet, and moved the smart tv into my room (he has the old non-smart tv ow to watch)… But the memories of porn still plagues him. When I caught his porn, I made him pull it up and we laid hands on the screen together and pray for those women and men having sex with them... We prayed for their freedom of the sin of bondage, both sexual and financial… but it is my SHAME I DID NOT EVEN THINK IT THOSE PEOPLE WERE IN SLAVEY BY SEX TRAFERICKING!!!

My son's father left me because I took his porn magazine roiled it up and beat him like a dog with it!... Maybe not my finest moment...lol... I should have just left him…. could have won more in court...lol...

No, not addicted to it, but know the destruction of it.... but I AM GREATFUL TO THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK OUT AGANIST IT.... BECAUSE WHEN I POSTED THE QUESTION HOW CAN I HELP MY SON IDIOTS ON HERE SUPPORTED PORN AND PUT ME DOWN AND BACKED HIS ADDICTION WITH PORN BEING "OKAY"....
My beloved sister, I totally feel your pain. Like a mother bear protecting her children, I identify with your mother’s heart of love and the anger you have toward those who harm children. God knows how my heart breaks on behalf of those who are trafficked, used, abused, and killed for sexual pleasures. My sister and I for years have been praying fervently for this very situation. I believe it breaks God’s heart more than anything else when innocent children are broken in spirit like that. I can hardly stand to think about it. I have to continually humble myself before God and submit to His Sovereignty on the matter. So I do get where you’re coming from.

The truth is, God cares even for the insanely corrupt people doing these horrible acts against their victims. Our flesh mind can’t comprehend the great love God has for even the reprobate people whose mind is demonic. It’s impossible to believe in our own natural flesh mind. But it’s the truth. And sweet sister, the only answer is prayer, forgiving others, and trusting God for them. Believe it or not, they honest to goodness don’t know what they are doing because they are ruled by the powers of darkness. They are insane puppets of the devil and are headed to an eternal humiliation and horror of separation from God. They don’t know the path they are on will ultimately be worse than anything they can imagine. But God cares.

Can you believe that God is concerned for these demonic pedophiles and deviate pornographers as much as you and I are concerned for the innocent children and people they victimize? Can you believe that God cares for these sexual predators so much that He sent His Son to die in their place? It seems ludicrous, doesn’t it? Impossible to believe if it weren’t for the Holy Spirit revealing the Truth of it. And yet, they are no worse than what we all are in the flesh: brute beasts and rebels against Christ going in our own ways. We need to pray for their deliverance, believe in the faith of Jesus Christ for them, that more and more lost people would see the truth and be set free from sexual sin. That's what God wants. Being angry and wanting to humiliate or destroy them is not the way to make them see Jesus. But I totally understand why you’d feel that way, because I do, too in my flesh. But in the spirit I know that the wrath of man will never ever work out the righteousness of God. The Lord is loving, patient, kind, merciful and forgiving.

I will pray with you and believe for the deliverance of children and others trafficked in this industry, and also for the salvation of those enslaved as abusers in the sex industry. I’m so sorry your family was victimized by it. My family was, too. There was a lot of abuse for generations in my family, but praise God, Jesus made my sister & me a team of intercession for His cause in this very situation. You can join us in this, too sister.

I pray your mother’s heart be healed, your son be blessed and guided in Christ Jesus, and your household be filled with the joy and grace of the Lord. Blessings of Christ Jesus to you, dear sister!

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Karraster

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Is it true that God loves unrepentent unbelieving evil people? Where is that in the Bible? I know John 3:16 states, "for God so loved the world..." however that relates to mankind, not the individual who commits unspeakable crimes against the innocent. God is angry with the wicked every day. He hates evil people, and they are His enemies. Don't be decieved. The Word contains many verses about what God hates, and we should hate what He hates or we are also counted among His enemies.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Is it true that God loves unrepentent unbelieving evil people? Where is that in the Bible? I know John 3:16 states, "for God so loved the world..." however that relates to mankind, not the individual who commits unspeakable crimes against the innocent. God is angry with the wicked every day. He hates evil people, and they are His enemies. Don't be decieved. The Word contains many verses about what God hates, and we should hate what He hates or we are also counted among His enemies.
And yet allows his enemies to repent and be saved.
 
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AuntieAnt

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Is it true that God loves unrepentent unbelieving evil people? Where is that in the Bible? I know John 3:16 states, "for God so loved the world..." however that relates to mankind, not the individual who commits unspeakable crimes against the innocent. God is angry with the wicked every day. He hates evil people, and they are His enemies. Don't be decieved. The Word contains many verses about what God hates, and we should hate what He hates or we are also counted among His enemies.
I don’t think you can get any more evil than persecuting Jesus Christ and condemning Him to death. And yet Jesus had compassion on those who put Him on the Cross and said, “Father forgive them, for they don’t know what they’re doing.”

Matthew 5: But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; that you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for He makes His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love them which love you, what reward do you have? Don’t even the publicans do the same? And if you greet your brethren only, are you doing more than others? Don’t even the publicans do so? Therefore, be perfect, even as your Father, which is in heaven, is perfect.

This isn’t something that comes naturally; this is what the Spirit of God miraculously does through us, His vessels.
 

memyselfi

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Is it true that God loves unrepentent unbelieving evil people? Where is that in the Bible? I know John 3:16 states, "for God so loved the world..." however that relates to mankind, not the individual who commits unspeakable crimes against the innocent. God is angry with the wicked every day. He hates evil people, and they are His enemies. Don't be decieved. The Word contains many verses about what God hates, and we should hate what He hates or we are also counted among His enemies.
Is not the individual who commits unspeakable crimes a who-so-ever'"? What is those who-so-evers' got saved, the 10's of thousands of them and stared saving children instead of abusing them!?! I pray for both, every day.... G-d will free the children or let them move home and G-d will save the men/women abusers or let them die QUICKLY!!!
 

memyselfi

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No I don't think it's right.
No offence meant and sorry I have offended you.
You did not offend me... But you do not think what is right? Please explain... I cannot be be offended, I do not understand what part is wrong!?!
 

memyselfi

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She is always attacking people on this level. And its always on sexual topics and against the church.
Shes posted a couple of threads like this.
But instead of her doing something sbout the things she brings up, theres only hate and more judgement. If you tell her to stand up against unrighteousness instead of just talking, she pulls th3 "im just a woman" and "no one would listen to me or i would get kicked out" card.
Demi777 I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGHT!!!! I have only spoken against, porn, homosexuality, and abortion (prove any different) especially just a woman card... that is funny... (I do not believe in the "woman" movement or women's lib)… NEVER FING IT!!… and if I get persecuted like this I COUNT IT ALL JOY LIKE MY LORD TELLS ME TO... Thank you for such a BLESSING!!!! I love you in the Lord!
 

BillG

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You did not offend me... But you do not think what is right? Please explain... I cannot be be offended, I do not understand what part is wrong!?!
No part of what you said is wrong.