Why Christians get a bad rap amongst the Jews...(an example)
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Israel's eternal inheritance is given by God all the way to the river Euphrates......they do NOT possess this, have not conquered this and are still limited to the range of the Golan Heights......everyone of you that flippantly reject this truth, laugh at this truth, ignore this truth absolutely prove that you are neither HONEST and or HAVE NO INTEREST in the truth..........All I have seen are flippant answers, a rejection of truth, snide laughter and NO FULFILLMENT of this GOD given statement in Joshua 1:4.....shakes head at the rejection of truth!
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The dissonance is between concrete and abstract then...
A prophecy whether described literally or metaphorically/figuratively using symbols, would never be an abstraction, would always have a concrete manifestation either physically or spiritually.
When the discussion becomes whether something is literal or metaphorical/figurative it becomes more about the way the words work which is a problem, as opposed to delineating between the real and the abstract...but I get it now
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A prophecy whether described literally or metaphorically/figuratively using symbols, would never be an abstraction, would always have a concrete manifestation either physically or spiritually.
When the discussion becomes whether something is literal or metaphorical/figurative it becomes more about the way the words work which is a problem, as opposed to delineating between the real and the abstract...but I get it now
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Begin at ad70 and say it was symbolic,,,go to the Resurrection of Jesus and say it wasn't literal,,,then to the cross, and and then his birth,,,,work you way back to the red sea and if it was parted literally or symbolic. Sodom and Gomorrah was real or not, the Flood? You see you don't believe anything was not literal until the RCC told us to in the ad300's...
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Well lets see if any of those who try to spiritualze this all away can start at ad70 and work their way backward and say the prophecies meant the Greeks didn't literately rule or that Nebuchadnezzar didnt acctually come and put bonds on them and lead them literally into captivity. I bet they cant find a thing they will try to spiritualize away,lol...
Why begin at ad70 rather than the time of reformation.... the veil is rent the government in the twinkling of the eye is restored to the period of Judges.
The ressurection was real as a real demonstration of the unseen promise to Joel and others. The holy Spirit pouring out his unseen spirit as if he was pouring out literal blood. God is not a man as us.
In that way it helps us under stand that jesus said of his own flesh it did not propfit as a demonstration according to what the eyes see the corrupted flesh of Christ typified as sinful which was necessary to put away sin in the flesh a work the letter of the law could not do.
Romans 1:4And declared to be the "Son of God" with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Not by his birth, by it he was declared the Son of man, Jesus... perfect man. God is not a man as us.
How would what the RCC told us to in the ad300's have anything to do with believing anything was not literal if they literally make the word of God without effect by claiming to be a equal DEVINE power?
The ressurection was real as a real demonstration of the unseen promise to Joel and others. The holy Spirit pouring out his unseen spirit as if he was pouring out literal blood. God is not a man as us.
In that way it helps us under stand that jesus said of his own flesh it did not propfit as a demonstration according to what the eyes see the corrupted flesh of Christ typified as sinful which was necessary to put away sin in the flesh a work the letter of the law could not do.
Romans 1:4And declared to be the "Son of God" with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Not by his birth, by it he was declared the Son of man, Jesus... perfect man. God is not a man as us.
How would what the RCC told us to in the ad300's have anything to do with believing anything was not literal if they literally make the word of God without effect by claiming to be a equal DEVINE power?
I can't believe you said that. Crass Gnosticism. It was REAL LITERAL BLOOD... not 'As If'
Hebrews 2:14 KJV
[14] Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Hebrews 9:12 KJV
[12] Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us .
Hebrews 9:14 KJV
[14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Hebrews 9:22 KJV
[22] And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Hebrews 10:29 KJV
[29] Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Hebrews 13:12 KJV
[12] Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Acts 20:28 KJV
[28] Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Hebrews 2:14 KJV
[14] Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Hebrews 9:12 KJV
[12] Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us .
Hebrews 9:14 KJV
[14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Hebrews 9:22 KJV
[22] And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Hebrews 10:29 KJV
[29] Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Hebrews 13:12 KJV
[12] Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Acts 20:28 KJV
[28] Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
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