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KnowMe said:
Yes it is my opinion and you can believe what I say or not.

It’s not ok to sin once in awhile and go in and out of the old then new then old again and again and again no.

And yes I judge myself as well when I said WE, for I have been doing that as well in and out in and out.
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Have I missed the post where you said "We?

Yes it is good to judge ourselves, or ask the Holy Spirit to reveal in us where we are lacking.
When we do that then we must be honest and brave ourselves for the answer and be willing to receive and change.

Done that many a time and boy is it an eye-opening experience.
We must be very careful not to judge others though.
As Jesus said "Take the plank out of your own eye"

It's not that I don't believe what you say.
I have seen it.
I have seen and known people who purposely sin and say "Its ok God has forgiven me or will forgive me"

I find that attitude disgraceful.
But there is a difference between said persons above and those who do sin but hate it and come before God, confess and ask for help.
 
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BillG said:
Have I missed the post where you said "We?

Yes it is good to judge ourselves, or ask the Holy Spirit to reveal in us where we are lacking.
When we do that then we must be honest and brave ourselves for the answer and be willing to receive and change.

Done that many a time and boy is it an eye-opening experience.
We must be very careful not to judge others though.
As Jesus said "Take the plank out of your own eye"

It's not that I don't believe what you say.
I have seen it.
I have seen and known people who purposely sin and say "Its ok God has forgiven me or will forgive me"

I find that attitude disgraceful.
But there is a difference between said persons above and those who do sin but hate it and come before God, confess and ask for help.
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Not sure how you missed it, it was in the post you quoted
 
KnowMe said:
We are born into a sinful world not born in sin, you acquire it by being tempted and acting on it
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David was inspired and he said differently.....

Psalm 51:5 Surely I was brought forth in iniquity; I was sinful when my mother conceived me.

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth. <---DOES the bible say ALL men are liars? YES or NO
 
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KnowMe said:
Ok I can agree with that I was wrong but what very very few people have that humble ability to say I’m wrong but the fear of being wrong doesn’t bother me. Many people believe they are never wrong at anything they do
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Fair enough and I apologize if I came across mouthy.....the problem with words on a page....we cannot see facial expressions and or motive....
 
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dcontroversal said:
David was inspired and he said differently.....

Psalm 51:5 Surely I was brought forth in iniquity; I was sinful when my mother conceived me.

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth. <---DOES the bible say ALL men are liars? YES or NO
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I have already said I was wrong, do you need me to say it again.
 
KnowMe said:
Not sure how you missed it, it was in the post you quoted
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Ok

Well I’m not a legalists as you say, in my opinion I think many folks think Jesus is a push over that they don’t really need to practice these below only when they feel like doing it or when we are in a good mood or whatever.
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To be honest I interpreted the "We" in that as applying to those who you gave your opinion on.

Therefore not including you.
Can you see how I thought that?
You didn't come across as conveying it in a personal sense to you but was conveying it to many folks who think that Jesus is a pushover etc.

If I misunderstood that and you were including yourself then I apologise.
But note that if you were including yourself then you are in the same category of the folks that you have given your opinion on.
 
KnowMe said:
Nonetheless born in sin IMO doesn’t mean the new born baby is guilty of it, I find that hard to believe.
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Even though we are conceived and come forth in sin I fully believe that the account of the 1st born of David with Bathsheba proves your point.....David speaks of his salvation in the present tense and when the one week old child dies he states clearly that he will go to and see that child again.......
 
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KnowMe said:
Nonetheless born in sin IMO doesn’t mean the new born baby is guilty of it, I find that hard to believe.
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I think the bible talks about an age of accountability. Here is one verse in Deuteronomy about it.
Deuteronomy 1:39

“Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.”
 
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Being born in sin isn’t a excuse to sin once in awhile because we just can’t help our selves, and say it will happen from time to time. self control I think is about knocking in which one has to do in order for the door to be open. applying the arm lifting it up and knock.
 
dcontroversal said:
Even though we are conceived and come forth in sin i fully believe that the account of the 1st born of David with Bathsheba proves your point.....David speaks of his salvation in the present tense and when the one week old child dies he states clearly that he will go to and see that child again.......
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Amen I like that I had not heard of that, thinks for sharing that info
 
KnowMe said:
Well maybe that’s what you need to work on, not applying that old marine way, and become a new marine different from the old.
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He is doing well.
He hasn't called anyone a cake taker for a while now:cool:

Sorry DC please don't beat me up again
 
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