Some truth about speaking in tongues, the Holy Ghost, spiritual gifts and 1 Corinthians 14
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Someone else asked that question. The following is my response:
Unfortunately, I don’t know the interpretation. I was tempted in the past to contact the church and request a copy of the service in hopes of hearing what God spoke through me. Upon the realization that the message was not meant for me but rather those gathered there that day I never pursued it.
The relevance of the experience for me that day was God’s gracious confirmation that He does indeed use our physical body to speak to others.
Thinking back on the experience my focus was directed toward the infusion of God’s Spirit into my body and its effect. It was so profound that my entire body vibrated. After the message was given I sat down, bowed my head, and clasped my hands together until the shaking subsided.
The entire incident left me in a state of wonder.
Unfortunately, I don’t know the interpretation. I was tempted in the past to contact the church and request a copy of the service in hopes of hearing what God spoke through me. Upon the realization that the message was not meant for me but rather those gathered there that day I never pursued it.
The relevance of the experience for me that day was God’s gracious confirmation that He does indeed use our physical body to speak to others.
Thinking back on the experience my focus was directed toward the infusion of God’s Spirit into my body and its effect. It was so profound that my entire body vibrated. After the message was given I sat down, bowed my head, and clasped my hands together until the shaking subsided.
The entire incident left me in a state of wonder.
I have no doubt you had some type of experience, but why would having that experience be more important than a word revealed from God?
If I spoke in some tongue that even I didn't understand, (not sure that is Scriptural) that someone claims to have interpreted, the VERY FIRST thing I would want to do is ask that person what I said.
If I spoke in some tongue that even I didn't understand, (not sure that is Scriptural) that someone claims to have interpreted, the VERY FIRST thing I would want to do is ask that person what I said.
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self righteous rant?
get over yourself dude. everyone else has moved on
what did you expect since you addressed that gem to me
since you had 5 minutes to correct it, we have to assume you were satisfied with what you wrote
people overstep and go back and delete or change what they said thinking better of it...I do it myself
you get told not to create that kind of post again and you tell a mod to take it off
but you didn't. cry me a river
yes in His Spirit and his truth not after private interpretation, our personal commentary of what we believe His interpretation is teaching us
If you mean in respect to the same manner of the mutual Spirit of faith...….. Christ...yes.
Christ is the Spirit of faith that mutually works in all who believe. The gift is always two-fold edifying the author….mutually blessing the speaker and the hearer. You could say like the Father and Son working together in perfect harmony as a perfect example. Or another example given in Roman (no private interpretations).
Below Paul as a gift of God is given a desire to be sent as an apostle to prophesy the word of God, prophecy
Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith (Christ’s) both of you and me.Romans1:10-12
No private faith, mutual faith yes as it is written
If you mean in respect to the same manner of the mutual Spirit of faith...….. Christ...yes.
Christ is the Spirit of faith that mutually works in all who believe. The gift is always two-fold edifying the author….mutually blessing the speaker and the hearer. You could say like the Father and Son working together in perfect harmony as a perfect example. Or another example given in Roman (no private interpretations).
Below Paul as a gift of God is given a desire to be sent as an apostle to prophesy the word of God, prophecy
Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith (Christ’s) both of you and me.Romans1:10-12
No private faith, mutual faith yes as it is written
oh my. hanging tough eh?
however the mock concern gives you away
how is your Bible version doing ? sold many copies?
however the mock concern gives you away
how is your Bible version doing ? sold many copies?
Have any pages left in your bible or have you torn them all out and thrown them away when they convicted you of your obvious error?
For the cause of Christ
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I cannot fathom people who negate any and every experience had by those who are Holy Spirit filled
how do you get past the fact that scripture is chock full of the experiences of people from old to new testaments?
such a silly silly response from those who purport to be so firm on the Bible
if the experience lines up with scripture, which most do, then are you jealous or calling people a liar?
I have no doubt this bias against biblical experience in the lives of those living today has not been well thought out by those who seem to think it is the final word on whether or not something is of God or not
you might as well tell Peter he didn't stand up at Pentecost, preach and see over 3000 added to the body of Christ that day
how do you get past the fact that scripture is chock full of the experiences of people from old to new testaments?
such a silly silly response from those who purport to be so firm on the Bible
if the experience lines up with scripture, which most do, then are you jealous or calling people a liar?
I have no doubt this bias against biblical experience in the lives of those living today has not been well thought out by those who seem to think it is the final word on whether or not something is of God or not
you might as well tell Peter he didn't stand up at Pentecost, preach and see over 3000 added to the body of Christ that day
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Speaking in an unknown tongue is scriptural as witnessed by Paul's teaching in 1 Corinthians.
You say you would have reacted differently than I; maybe, maybe not. Try to imagine what it would feel like to have God pour His Spirit directly into your body in an instant. It is not possible. It is overwhelming. The awe inspiring experience cannot be understood by those who have not experienced it.
Because I never pursued the gift, nor discussed the specifics of the experience with anyone that operated in the gift of tongues it was a complete shocker.
Would I like to know what God said that day? Yes.
However, as I said the experience confirmed God still uses His Spiritual gifts to display His presence in our world.
You say you would have reacted differently than I; maybe, maybe not. Try to imagine what it would feel like to have God pour His Spirit directly into your body in an instant. It is not possible. It is overwhelming. The awe inspiring experience cannot be understood by those who have not experienced it.
Because I never pursued the gift, nor discussed the specifics of the experience with anyone that operated in the gift of tongues it was a complete shocker.
Would I like to know what God said that day? Yes.
However, as I said the experience confirmed God still uses His Spiritual gifts to display His presence in our world.
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How, beyond some feeling, and somebody saying they understood you, do you even know you said ANYTHING, or that it was from the Lord? Why not just follow what Paul is saying here in 1 Corinthians 14?
Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church.
5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.
6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
7 Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the pipe or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes?
8 Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?
9 So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air.
10 Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning.
11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me.
12 So it is with you. Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those that build up the church.
13 For this reason the one who speaks in a tongue should pray that they may interpret what they say.
14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.
15 So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding.
16 Otherwise when you are praising God in the Spirit, how can someone else, who is now put in the position of an inquirer, say “Amen” to your thanksgiving, since they do not know what you are saying?
17 You are giving thanks well enough, but no one else is edified.
18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.
19 But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
20 Brothers and sisters, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults.
21 In the Law it is written: “With other tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord.”
22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers.
23 So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind?
24 But if an unbeliever or an inquirer comes in while everyone is prophesying, they are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment by all,
25 as the secrets of their hearts are laid bare. So they will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, “God is really among you!”
Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church.
5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.
6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
7 Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the pipe or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes?
8 Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?
9 So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air.
10 Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning.
11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me.
12 So it is with you. Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those that build up the church.
13 For this reason the one who speaks in a tongue should pray that they may interpret what they say.
14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.
15 So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding.
16 Otherwise when you are praising God in the Spirit, how can someone else, who is now put in the position of an inquirer, say “Amen” to your thanksgiving, since they do not know what you are saying?
17 You are giving thanks well enough, but no one else is edified.
18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.
19 But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
20 Brothers and sisters, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults.
21 In the Law it is written: “With other tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord.”
22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers.
23 So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind?
24 But if an unbeliever or an inquirer comes in while everyone is prophesying, they are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment by all,
25 as the secrets of their hearts are laid bare. So they will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, “God is really among you!”
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There is a difference between speaking in tongues for personal edification, and operating in the Spiritual gift of tongues for the edification of a church body. (Acts 2; 1 Cor 14:2 and 1 Cor 14: 27-28)
As noted in a different post, I had never, nor was I at the time pursuing the Spiritual gift. I just happened to be a willing and available vessel for God to speak through that day.
What makes you think it could not have been the lord?
As noted in a different post, I had never, nor was I at the time pursuing the Spiritual gift. I just happened to be a willing and available vessel for God to speak through that day.
What makes you think it could not have been the lord?
But you WEREN’T edified. How could you have been if you don’t even know what you said.
As has been said many times before, God is not a God of confusion. That you didn’t care what God had said through you, and was just blown away by the experiential feelings you got, is a little concerning.
What did you say? How did it edify anybody? Why hasn’t the person that said they understood you told you? Why didn’t YOU understand what you said?
As has been said many times before, God is not a God of confusion. That you didn’t care what God had said through you, and was just blown away by the experiential feelings you got, is a little concerning.
What did you say? How did it edify anybody? Why hasn’t the person that said they understood you told you? Why didn’t YOU understand what you said?