If understanding requires measurement, then we can never understand the immeasurable
immeasurable
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Omnipotence is within the logical limits of having an unlimited supply of power and an unlimited variety of capabilities
Posthuman, thank you for the reminders awe all need. I paste below just one of them that touches my heart and soul.
Reading it, knowing the name David is interpreted as Beloved, and the throne of David is where our Bloved Savior sits, it takes on great meaning to me.
As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured:
so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.
(Jeremiah 33:22)
Reading it, knowing the name David is interpreted as Beloved, and the throne of David is where our Bloved Savior sits, it takes on great meaning to me.
As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured:
so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.
(Jeremiah 33:22)
God is an extreme being, yet he is stable, he can calm the storm, infinite dexterity, precision, and unlimited supply of mental attention, focus, willpower, etc.
Stillness, Psalms 23:2, psalm 46:10, Exodus 14:14 - be still (ultra efficient)
Mustard seed sized faith can move spiritual mountains
Soften heart of stone to heart of flesh
The king of free will
Does God have infinite variety of attributes?
Yet all are in harmony regardless of amounts of attributes
Infinite dimensions? <--that's creation,
Biggest amount of finite dimension
Stillness, Psalms 23:2, psalm 46:10, Exodus 14:14 - be still (ultra efficient)
Mustard seed sized faith can move spiritual mountains
Soften heart of stone to heart of flesh
The king of free will
Does God have infinite variety of attributes?
Yet all are in harmony regardless of amounts of attributes
Infinite dimensions? <--that's creation,
Biggest amount of finite dimension
i was listening to a sermon on this very verse -- which tells us to know the unknowable ((!!)) -- when i thought about trying to put together all these immeasurables
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God;
for He gives the Spirit without measure
(John 3:34)
12 Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.
Ecc 12
17 And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love,
18 may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,
19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge--that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
Eph 3
34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.
John 3
16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might
display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life.
1 Tim 1
22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you
reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.
23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was with God in the beginning.
John 1
2 Your throne was established long ago; you are from all eternity.
Psalm 93
Ecc 12
17 And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love,
18 may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,
19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge--that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
Eph 3
34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.
John 3
16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might
display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life.
1 Tim 1
22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you
reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.
23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was with God in the beginning.
John 1
2 Your throne was established long ago; you are from all eternity.
Psalm 93
1 Kings 8:27
But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
Cannot be contained within any bounding volume: immeasurable
Revelation 9:1-2
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Having no lower bound: immeasurable
But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
Cannot be contained within any bounding volume: immeasurable
Revelation 9:1-2
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Having no lower bound: immeasurable
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Psalm 147:5
“Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit.”
“Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit.”
Assuming no randomness, finite variety of difference will eventually "run into cycles" given unlimited chance to occur
a small glimpse of eternity
a small glimpse of eternity
I'm thinking during the Incarnation...
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (Col 2:9)
What do you think?
Father, why do you abandon me ~Jesus
Death is close, imagine willingly go through fears of hell for us.
Death is close, imagine willingly go through fears of hell for us.
There may be many ways in which a thing could be immeasurable.
It is generally thought that God's attributes express infinity not quantitatively, but qualitatively.
That's something to ponder.
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Let's magnify this contrast to the utmost of extremes, put the pedal to the metal!
The attributes of love, God doesn't want a single nerve ending to get hurt, and even if there's one remaining nerve cell or nerve ending left to be saved he would really die on a cross and shed blood to see that nerve cell saved (if nerve cells have conscious at all, it's doubtful)
About God's holiness, even if there's only a subatomic quark of sin in it is an immense universe, or even multiverses
God's justice and holiness is so intense! he will destroy the whole universe and even the multi universe to wipe out even that one subatomic quark of sin!
May we bow down happy thankful that no matter how extreme God's attributes can be that they are in Harmony and in balance
The power of is harmony hallelujah the power of this balance, let us pray. We are not worthy to even have the privilege to praise you, yeah you gave us the mind the intellect as evidence as seen by posthuman. May we be at awe, in balance, amen