The benefits of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit

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PennEd said:
First let me say that you exhibit the fruits of the Holy Spirit all the time here. I personally feel blessed to read many of your posts filled with love for your brethren.

But I am glad you recognize that at least some of those people, and who knows how many others, are NOT operating under the influence of the H.S.
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PennEd - Some of those people in the video ARE operating under the influence of the Holy Spirit, not all but some ARE. :giggle:(y) Thank you for your kind words. :love:

@PennEd and @Didymous - both of you are awesome men of God and I always enjoy reading your posts and discussing Bible topics with you, too!
 
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Didymous said:
They were not drunk in the Spirit, because there is no such thing. Ephesians 5:17-21 tells us what being filled with the Spirit looks like-not some 'Holy Ghost bartender' nonsense like the drunken spirit thing taught


I do believe God gives us all what we need. Some folks seem to need a more powerful touch, so they get it.
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It was a joke Didymous, but perhaps with all the problems on this forum about these things, I should not have made it.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
sis, If your did not get baptised by God at the moment of conversion. You never were saved. Because you never 3experienced Christs death and burial, and were not united with him in his death, and were never spiritually circumcised by the God

Now if you want to talk about some experience you recieved 3 months later after the HS gave you a gift. (3 months after he baptized and and was poured into you based on your faith) Now thats a different story.
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I was not able to come back EG. Life happened.

And I can only testify what occurred with my conversion, and then the baptism from Jesus. And how I understood it at the time.

You know EG, I have no problem discussing these things with other Pentecostals or charismatics. We are in unity.
 
dcontroversal said:
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH You obviously do not know how many times we have disagreed and or exchanged a few words behind the scenes.....and what is tragic.......the second line is beneath you and false........this is twice now you have embraced and supported the one that was actually causing the strife......tragic for sure......!!
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If I agree with someone, decon. I will state it.
 
Absolutely said:
There was an instance where he punched a man in the stomach and i believe the man got healed.
I think wigglesworth had over 90% success rate.
If you are against him,i think you are not going to listen to reason.
As far as i know he never beat on anyone.

We can do hyper paranoia on anything,as in fearing all baptists over the Yarborough extremes.
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I have the complete sermons of Wigglesworth. Have never read anything done like that.
 
stonesoffire said:
I was not able to come back EG. Life happened.

And I can only testify what occurred with my conversion, and then the baptism from Jesus. And how I understood it at the time.

You know EG, I have no problem discussing these things with other Pentecostals or charismatics. We are in unity.
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All I know is what the bible says

And what you said was true is impossible

Again, If you were not baptized by God at conversion. You were not saved. And whatever you felt later, If it was anything, it was NOt the baptism of the spirit. Maybe the spirit which was ALREADY in you moved, and you felt him? I do not know. And will not judge, But I know what it is not.

As for all of you being in unity, You are not. Because you all do not even believe the same, Some think I am lost. Others think I have blasphemed the spirit, yet others think I am just missing out on Gods gifting

Non of the above are true.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
All I know is what the bible says

And what you said was true is impossible

Again, If you were not baptized by God at conversion. You were not saved. And whatever you felt later, If it was anything, it was NOt the baptism of the spirit. Maybe the spirit which was ALREADY in you moved, and you felt him? I do not know. And will not judge, But I know what it is not.

As for all of you being in unity, You are not. Because you all do not even believe the same, Some think I am lost. Others think I have blasphemed the spirit, yet others think I am just missing out on Gods gifting

Non of the above are true.
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I said none of those things.

EG....Jesus breathed on the disciples and said, receive Holy Spirit. This was after they "saw" Jesus alive and well. And though it doesn't say they repented, I would think they felt sorrowful for not believing He would raise up as He said He would. So I see repentance here. They were not born again until this moment. The new birth wasn't available until Jesus resurrected from death. This was not Pentecost. This is what Paul called the Spirit of Christ that without one is not of Him.

Pentecost is different. This is the scriptures EG. What you say is true is not scriptural. You take various scriptures elsewhere and try to apply them. Makes no sense.
 
dcontroversal said:
Making mouthy comments, accusing and saying people are following someone does not fit "IF i agree with some one I will state it"

You are really going off the rails lately.........
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I always see both sides doing the same thing. Then the mob comes. That's what I agree with and I found myself doing the same thing. I stopped it long before Mac said it.

Do you really need defenders?

You please point out where you think I've gone off the rails and we will discuss it.
 
stonesoffire said:
I said none of those things.

EG....Jesus breathed on the disciples and said, receive Holy Spirit. This was after they "saw" Jesus alive and well. And though it doesn't say they repented, I would think they felt sorrowful for not believing He would raise up as He said He would. So I see repentance here. They were not born again until this moment. The new birth wasn't available until Jesus resurrected from death. This was not Pentecost. This is what Paul called the Spirit of Christ that without one is not of Him.

Pentecost is different. This is the scriptures EG. What you say is true is not scriptural. You take various scriptures elsewhere and try to apply them. Makes no sense.
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Eph 1 is scripture sis

Eph 1 says once a person believers, they are sealed with the HS of promise

If you have not been given the spirit. Your not saved.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Eph 1 is scripture sis

Eph 1 says once a person believers, they are sealed with the HS of promise

If you have not been given the spirit. Your not saved.
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Salvation is by the blood of the Lamb. Believing on Him. Remember the thief? And of course the sealing is with conversion.

The baptism is the power of Holy Spirit rising up from within, or coming upon, or even both, depending on how He is moving through us.

Paul preached with signs following. This should be the pattern for all churches. If this makes one angry, can't help it.
 
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stonesoffire said:
Salvation is by the blood of the Lamb. Believing on Him. Remember the thief?
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The their was saved before the payment was made. No one got the ya until pentecost

and of course the sealing is with conversion.
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Seal of spirit was not given until Pentecost


[/quote]The baptism is the power of Holy Spirit rising up from within, or coming upon, or even both, depending on how He is moving through us.[/quote]

No this is not true. No baptism if any type does this. You have been told wrong sis

Paul preached with signs following. This should be the pattern for all churches. If this makes one angry, can't help it.
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Paul preached the HS gave gifts as he saw fit. And not everyone will get every gift

Every church should preach this
 
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