Amillennialists...Here's a chance to state your case.

[Didymous]

Yeshua also was not caught in the act of homosexuality either. Do you actually understand the term sodomy for those days? It meant, they caught another man's manhood in the mouth of Calvin. Either way, what sort of church claiming to be of God builds their principles upon a homosexual, and then preaches against churches pastored by homosexuals? The Baptist do

You seem to be preoccupied with homosexuality. Are you homophobic?

 

[crossnote]

You seem to be preoccupied with homosexuality. Are you homophobic?

That is off topic, you may want to PM him.

 

[Didymous]

That is off topic, you may want to PM him.

my apologies.

 

[obedienttogod]

You're seriously twisted.

Interesting, because that is exactly what I thought of those (YOU) following what Calvin taught ,knowing some truths no one wishes to accept.

 

[obedienttogod]

You seem to be preoccupied with homosexuality. Are you homophobic?

I am when it invades the House of God.

Nope, I believe in casting out Demons. I do however enjoy, when those claiming to be meet the power of God. Nothing better to see than a mouse cornered, knowing there is no possible way to escape

 

[Journeyman]

I don't see an Eschatology section, so I'll post this here...(Mods, if there is a more appropriate section, please move the thread there).

Revelation 20:4-5 NASBS
[4] Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. [5] The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection.

For those who hold to an Amillennial position, (usually stated as an indefinite amount of time starting from the cross to Christ's return), who are those in v.4

Those in vs4 are here,

We know that we have passed from death unto life 1Jn.3:14

and are they reigning now with Christ?

Of course,

in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. Rom.8:37

Who are those in v.5 (rest of the dead)?

The rest of the dead are here,

For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1Cor.15:53

Which of these two is the 'first resurrection'? Both?

Here is the first resurrection,

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me.....is passed from death unto life Jn.5:24

 

[Melach]

Those in vs4 are here,

We know that we have passed from death unto life 1Jn.3:14

Of course,

in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. Rom.8:37

The rest of the dead are here,

For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1Cor.15:53


Here is the first resurrection,

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me.....is passed from death unto life Jn.5:24

are you eastern orthodox dear friend? is that an icon in your photo or what is it? i ask in love not to spite or debate

 

[Journeyman]

are you eastern orthodox dear friend?

I don't belong to a denomination.

is that an icon in your photo or what is it? i ask in love not to spite or debate

It's a painting by Norman Rockwell entitled The Golden Rule.

 

[Didymous]

That is off topic, you may want to PM him.

Interesting, because that is exactly what I thought of those (YOU) following what Calvin taught ,knowing some truths no one wishes to accept.[/QUOTE

Honestly, you're just another hatemonger-like fred phelps was before he died. You don't happen to belong to a church like the westboro Baptist church, do you? Since you seem to be one of those who single out homosexuality as an abomination to speak against, I suggest you read Proverbs 6. Maybe you'll find yourself there.

 

[crossnote]

Those in vs4 are here,

We know that we have passed from death unto life 1Jn.3:14

Of course,

in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. Rom.8:37

The rest of the dead are here,

For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1Cor.15:53


Here is the first resurrection,

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me.....is passed from death unto life Jn.5:24

Now my last question, 'do you think that is the Amill view'?

 

[obedienttogod]

Honestly, you're just another hatemonger-like fred phelps was before he died. You don't happen to belong to a church like the westboro Baptist church, do you? Since you seem to be one of those who single out homosexuality as an abomination to speak against, I suggest you read Proverbs 6. Maybe you'll find yourself there.

I would NEVER belong to a Baptist Church!!
Talk about the literal DEAD in Christ!!

I guess Sodom and Ghomorrow most likely would disagree with you, especially when Yeshua compared many sins being judged lesser/greater than Sodom and Ghomorrow. Which means that Yeshua confirmed Sodom and Ghomorrow are going to be judged for their multitude of sins to God.

And just what are some of the categories THOSE SINS WE READ ABOUT CONCERNING SODOM AND GHOMORROW fall into?

If they are an ABOMINATION unto God, they are STILL an ABOMINATION unto the Followers of God!!


And take your Proverbs and find a place to shove it!!

I WILL NOT consider what a DEMON POSSESSED, psychologically damaged person, believing same sex is natural and normal and something you are born as, thinks on terms of accepting their scientific lies as a fact!!

Do YOU consider what the Adversary/Devil and Demonic spirits feels towards our God and want to help them?

I want to cast out their Demons, first and foremost. Then I will consider them as I introduce them to God.

 

[Journeyman]

Now my last question, 'do you think that is the Amill view'?

Not the way you described it, because "the cross" is the way of life Jesus not only fulfilled, but taught.

I have a question for you. Do you believe any person or spirit ever ruled over Jesus?

 

[oldethennew]

J.
is this a trick question, who in their right mind would ask such a thing???
are you really serious, or just playin'???

 

[Journeyman]

J.
is this a trick question, who in their right mind would ask such a thing???
are you really serious, or just playin'???

I'm being serious. It's not a trick question. Do you believe any person or spirit (Pontius Pilate, the Chief Priest, the Roman army, the Pharisees, Satan, demons) ever ruled over Jesus Christ? Yes or no?

 

[Didymous]

I would NEVER belong to a Baptist Church!!
Talk about the literal DEAD in Christ!!

I guess Sodom and Ghomorrow most likely would disagree with you, especially when Yeshua compared many sins being judged lesser/greater than Sodom and Ghomorrow. Which means that Yeshua confirmed Sodom and Ghomorrow are going to be judged for their multitude of sins to God.

And just what are some of the categories THOSE SINS WE READ ABOUT CONCERNING SODOM AND GHOMORROW fall into?

If they are an ABOMINATION unto God, they are STILL an ABOMINATION unto the Followers of God!!


And take your Proverbs and find a place to shove it!!

I WILL NOT consider what a DEMON POSSESSED, psychologically damaged person, believing same sex is natural and normal and something you are born as, thinks on terms of accepting their scientific lies as a fact!!

Do YOU consider what the Adversary/Devil and Demonic spirits feels towards our God and want to help them?

I want to cast out their Demons, first and foremost. Then I will consider them as I introduce them to God.

Interesting person you are-with your obvious hate for homosexuals, Calvin, and Baptists, I think you're going to be in for a big surprise when you're standing before Jesus. Also interesting that you told me to find a place to shove Proverbs. You really are obsessed with homosexual acts, I think-that's very telling. You might look up the definition of homophobia.

 

[Didymous]

And take your Proverbs and find a place to shove it!!

Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the Lord hate; yea, seven are an abomination to him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, an heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift to running to mischief, a false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

If you can't see yourself in some of these seven abominations, then you're either insane, or completely deluded about who you are, and how you act among the brethren. How many homosexuals have you helped to be saved? Any?

 

[obedienttogod]

Interesting person you are-with your obvious hate for homosexuals, Calvin, and Baptists, I think you're going to be in for a big surprise when you're standing before Jesus. Also interesting that you told me to find a place to shove Proverbs. You really are obsessed with homosexual acts, I think-that's very telling. You might look up the definition of homophobia.

Really irks you, huh, that your foundational beliefs stem from someone, that several sources claim, to have been a willing participant to an Abomination of God...

I think it's hilarious!!

 

[obedienttogod]

Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the Lord hate; yea, seven are an abomination to him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, an heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift to running to mischief, a false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

If you can't see yourself in some of these seven abominations, then you're either insane, or completely deluded about who you are, and how you act among the brethren. How many homosexuals have you helped to be saved? Any?

Some of you took pretty good pot shots at us, who believe in Speaking in Tongues.
But the moment the shoe is on the other foot, it's time to list abominations unto God.
Maybe the scripture you are actually trying to seek, covers the topic of being a hypocrite!!

 

[tanakh]

I'm not amillennial. The 1000 years is figurative of the reign of the early church up to the destruction of Jerusalem (the whore city Babylon of John's apocalypse) in 70 AD.

There will be a new heaven and a new earth after judgement day when the Lord returns. Christ set up his kingdom at his first coming
and like a mustard seed it has been growing ever since. Neither he Paul or any other NT writer mentions a literal 1000 year kingdom except John although they had plenty of opportunities to do so. Revelation is full of symbolism so why is it so difficult to see this one thousand year period as one more especially when it matches many passages found in Ezekiel including the Temple and the new Jerusalem complete with a river flowing from the throne of God.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Interesting person you are-with your obvious hate for homosexuals, Calvin, and Baptists, I think you're going to be in for a big surprise when you're standing before Jesus. Also interesting that you told me to find a place to shove Proverbs. You really are obsessed with homosexual acts, I think-that's very telling. You might look up the definition of homophobia.

Maybe he is a closet? Just wants to take the focus off himself. Or is angry.. Thats what alot of them end up doing instead of confessing