Faith

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Just to be straight, it is the blood of Jesus Christ that cleanses us from all sin. 1 John 1:7.

Not the faith of Jesus.

The faith of JESUS IS the vehicle so to speak that carries a person on to eternal life/salvation because If we were to receive grace and have to use our 5 sense human faith we would never be accepted by a righteous loving GOD.

 

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If the blind man heard what JESUS had been doing and believed from hearing would that be faith from using his senses?

So you fully accept that one man is a quintet operating on five levels, but you cannot accept that One God is a trinity operating on three levels?

 

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The faith of JESUS IS the vehicle so to speak that carries a person on to eternal life/salvation....

It is the finished work of God on earth that is the way to eternal life.

 

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If you were to go out to your car and get In the car and you reached Into your pocket to get your keys,you used 5 sense knowledge to feel your keys and any other 5 sense knowledge needed to do everything BUT when you got In your car you didn't see the engine turn over but you still believed the car would start,well that's a human form of faith.
People In the world use their senses all the time to get something that they have not seen yet..

Without the KEY to the to the ignition that provides the ELECTRICAL POWER to the ENGINE the car (your god) is not fit for purpose.

 

[piroma]

I mean,would that be a human faith In JESUS from using the senses?

He has seen his thoughts by his spirit

this is what ?

 

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So you fully accept that one man is a quintet operating on five levels, but you cannot accept that One God is a trinity operating on three levels?

I understand that man has 5 sense knowledge and there Is GOD the FATHER,SON and HOLY GHOST.
Why don’t you believe this?

 

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It is the finished work of God on earth that is the way to eternal life.

Didn’t you say that It was our faith that brought eternal life?

 

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I understand that man has 5 sense knowledge and there Is GOD the FATHER,SON and HOLY GHOST.
Why don’t you believe this?

You are close to being put on ignore. I will refrain from doing that if you quote scripture and give a correct exegesis.

 

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Didn’t you say that It was our faith that brought eternal life?

The giver of eternal life is the Lord Jesus Christ and if we are to inherit eternal life which is a free gift, then we need to believe (have faith) in Jesus. Notice Jesus is Lord.

Jews, please note, eternal life is conditional on our belief in the Son.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

 

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You are close to being put on ignore. I will refrain from doing that if you quote scripture and give a correct exegesis.

I felt the exact same way when I read Your post 122.

 

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The giver of eternal life is the Lord Jesus Christ and if we are to inherit eternal life which is a free gift, then we need to believe (have faith) in Jesus. Notice Jesus is Lord.

Jews, please note, eternal life is conditional on our belief in the Son.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

You see I believe that when you say believe In JESUS that this Is what JESUS meant when HE said YOUR faith has saved you.I think HE was talking about a man using his common sense knowledge to believe In JESUS which Is believing without seeing or as I like to say,a human faith and then If his repenting was true then JESUS would do the rest.

 

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Without the KEY to the to the ignition that provides the ELECTRICAL POWER to the ENGINE the car (your god) is not fit for purpose.

You say without the key to the Ignition that provides energy to the car then their Is no purpose.What I mean by human faith when I talked about believing the engine would turn over was that the person used their ability to feel translates/communicates to believing.
The sense of feeling that when they got the key and put It In the Ignition that the engine would turn over

 

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He has seen his thoughts by his spirit

this is what ?

Is that scripture about GODT?his can only be faith.

 

[piroma]

Is that scripture about GODT?his can only be faith.

it was about Jesus and Pharisees

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Is that scripture about GOD because If It Is This can only be about faith.

it was about Jesus and Pharisees

you say the scripture that you got this from Is about JESUS and the pharisees.I'm trying to understand how what I posted have to do with "his thoughts are seen by the Spirit.IDK
Can you describe a little more so that I can clearly understand.

 

[piroma]

you say the scripture that you got this from Is about JESUS and the pharisees.I'm trying to understand how what I posted have to do with "his thoughts are seen by the Spirit.IDK
Can you describe a little more so that I can clearly understand.

you was talking about five senses

by senses comes the faith - if it is from the hearing of the word - surely so

but i given this idea that exist spirit by which one can understand what is outside of him - exactly what is thinking others besides

how do you call it - senses as well ?

 

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you was talking about five senses

by senses comes the faith - if it is from the hearing of the word - surely so

but i given this idea that exist spirit by which one can understand what is outside of him - exactly what is thinking others besides

how do you call it - senses as well ?

by senses comes the faith - if it is from the hearing of the word - surely so

This Is true but I was talking about how 5 sense knowledge can communicate or translate to faith or human type of faith believing without seeing.

Here Is the example I used In post 122

If you were to go out to your car and get In the car and you reached Into your pocket to get your keys,you used 5 sense knowledge to feel your keys and any other 5 sense knowledge needed to do everything BUT when you got In your car you didn't see the engine turn over but you still believed the car would start,well that's a human form of faith.
People In the world use their senses all the time to get something that they have not seen yet.

but i given this idea that exist spirit by which one can understand what is outside of him - exactly what is thinking others besides

how do you call it - senses as well ?

How does a man’s thinking or thoughts be seen as his senses translate to faith?

A man’s thinking comes from the brain and the brain determines what Is what by the body’s ability to sense.See touch taste smell or feel Is part of the flesh,I don’t want to go further In trying to explain It without knowing how to lay It out using scripture,It would just be more confusion to try and unravel.

You can find more Information on this reading Andrew Wommack’s notes on Spirit Soul And Body.

 

[piroma]

This Is true but I was talking about how 5 sense knowledge can communicate or translate to faith or human type of faith believing without seeing.

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New International Version
Immediately Jesus knew in his spirit that this was what they were thinking in their hearts, and he said to them, "Why are you thinking these things?

more right the translation is - by His spirit

so spiritual more strong than simply senses of the body

 

[seed_time_harvest]

A better example of a human faith or to believe without seeing:
Someone In the world might decide to get a new car, even though they can't see the car they believe they will get the car.

Although they believe they will have the car that they have not seen yet they would have to use one or more of their senses to get the car.

That's what I mean by a human being believing without seeing and his believing without seeing being accounted as faith.