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Yes God knows what is on the hearts
But you CAN NOT SEE WHATS ON THE HEART
Paul said IF YOU SEE (not if God sees) commit a sin WHICH IS NOT UNTIL DEATH.
We are not talkng about God here, we are talkng about mankind witnessing someone commit a sin, and that sin leads to death
Let be give you some examples
Drink to much alcohol and die because you crashed your car
Have sexual relations and get an STD that leads to death
Be someplace you should not be and end up getitn gkilled.
There are so many many more examples
This is what Paul is talking about NOT the unpardonable sin.
Your wrong man, Your just flat wrong.
But you CAN NOT SEE WHATS ON THE HEART
Paul said IF YOU SEE (not if God sees) commit a sin WHICH IS NOT UNTIL DEATH.
We are not talkng about God here, we are talkng about mankind witnessing someone commit a sin, and that sin leads to death
Let be give you some examples
Drink to much alcohol and die because you crashed your car
Have sexual relations and get an STD that leads to death
Be someplace you should not be and end up getitn gkilled.
There are so many many more examples
This is what Paul is talking about NOT the unpardonable sin.
Your wrong man, Your just flat wrong.
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Who said they can, You seem to be the one who says this is possible not us
So instead of attacking people who do not preach what you say, Try sitting for one minute, lay your pride aside and listen to them
TRUE FAITH PRODUCES SALVATION
TRUE FAITH PRODUCES OBEDIENCE
THEY GO HAND IN HAND.
So instead of attacking people who do not preach what you say, Try sitting for one minute, lay your pride aside and listen to them
TRUE FAITH PRODUCES SALVATION
TRUE FAITH PRODUCES OBEDIENCE
THEY GO HAND IN HAND.
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brethren.... have i called God a liar? have i preached a false gospel? Lord forgive me my sins.
people forgive me all against who i have broken.
Galatians 3:3 Are you so foolish? Although you began with the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by human effort?
1 John 5:9-12
Even if we accept human testimony, the testimony of God is greater. For this is the testimony that God has given about His Son. Whoever believes in the Son of God has this testimony within him; whoever does not believe God has made Him out to be a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony God has given about His Son.
And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.
i dont know what it all means , why all the warnings of apostasy if its not possible. but i feel really bad. i read that verse and it hit me like a ton of bricks in my soul. like a zion stone landing on my soul.
i ask anyone with the knowledge. why all the harsh language about works obedience apostasy but also clearly salvation isnt topped off by human effort according to st.paul.
people forgive me all against who i have broken.
Galatians 3:3 Are you so foolish? Although you began with the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by human effort?
1 John 5:9-12
Even if we accept human testimony, the testimony of God is greater. For this is the testimony that God has given about His Son. Whoever believes in the Son of God has this testimony within him; whoever does not believe God has made Him out to be a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony God has given about His Son.
And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.
i dont know what it all means , why all the warnings of apostasy if its not possible. but i feel really bad. i read that verse and it hit me like a ton of bricks in my soul. like a zion stone landing on my soul.
i ask anyone with the knowledge. why all the harsh language about works obedience apostasy but also clearly salvation isnt topped off by human effort according to st.paul.
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Here we go again
Your a liar dude, You keep sitting here preaching about how we should obey the 10 commands, yet you break one with almost every post you make
OSAS believes in the POWER OF GOD TO NOT ONLY SAVE BUT TO CHANGE LIVES and MAKE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE out of SINNERS, and God can not only do it HE WILL (He who began a good work in you WILL COMPLETE THAT WORK, not might)
YOUR THE ONE who teaches we CAN BE SAVED, BUT NOT BE CHANGED. THUS LOSE SALVATION! Because what GOD BEGAN, HE NEVER COMPLETED.
Your the one who has no faith in the power of god. And you can not even se eit, because your too busy trying to attack a believe you do not even understand.
Your a liar dude, You keep sitting here preaching about how we should obey the 10 commands, yet you break one with almost every post you make
OSAS believes in the POWER OF GOD TO NOT ONLY SAVE BUT TO CHANGE LIVES and MAKE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE out of SINNERS, and God can not only do it HE WILL (He who began a good work in you WILL COMPLETE THAT WORK, not might)
YOUR THE ONE who teaches we CAN BE SAVED, BUT NOT BE CHANGED. THUS LOSE SALVATION! Because what GOD BEGAN, HE NEVER COMPLETED.
Your the one who has no faith in the power of god. And you can not even se eit, because your too busy trying to attack a believe you do not even understand.
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Oh I must admit I did lol...
But I took my sorry tail and fell into the book , where I knew God would show me His truth...
Then after a while , I could stick my head in the forum and make little tiny post relating to the word , and then I came in more because I was so sure what God was showing me was His truth , and getting replies back without the statements that I had the cart before the horse gave me more confidence that I was on the right path...
Dcon scared me lol , I thought he did not like me one bit , now I see how passionate he is , just like you and many of my brothers and sisters in Christ in here...
I have learned so much from you all because you do not waver , and I love you all dearly , and brother Bill who was so tender with me , and nnm who is my baby brother , and I love them to , and so many lol...xox...
But I took my sorry tail and fell into the book , where I knew God would show me His truth...
Then after a while , I could stick my head in the forum and make little tiny post relating to the word , and then I came in more because I was so sure what God was showing me was His truth , and getting replies back without the statements that I had the cart before the horse gave me more confidence that I was on the right path...
Dcon scared me lol , I thought he did not like me one bit , now I see how passionate he is , just like you and many of my brothers and sisters in Christ in here...
I have learned so much from you all because you do not waver , and I love you all dearly , and brother Bill who was so tender with me , and nnm who is my baby brother , and I love them to , and so many lol...xox...
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