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Budman

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Macabeus said:
I still want the liars to show me where I examined anyone's fruit in regard to salvation. If you don't, it means that everyone who said it is A LIAR.
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Again - yes or no - did you not repeatedly state that fruit is the proof one's salvation is "genuine"?
 
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Budman said:
Again - yes or no - did you not repeatedly state that fruit is the proof one's salvation is "genuine"?
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Oh, budman. His statement is an overall statement. Yours is personal.

Not the same thing. Entrapment is exposed.
 
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Budman said:
Again - yes or no - did you not repeatedly state that fruit is the proof one's salvation is "genuine"?
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NO, JESUS DID.

And that is not examining anyone's fruit, that is stating a biblical fact. SO I call out you and GB9 and anyone else who accused me of examining other people's fruits AS LIARS
 
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UnderGrace said:
He created the universe which is based on laws, spiritual does not exclude rational.
If God was not rational we would be in big trouble.
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Where does rational appear in scripture? Wisdom maybe. Rational? Never saw it. Wisdom is greater
 
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stonesoffire said:
Oh, budman. His statement is an overall statement. Yours is personal.

Not the same thing. Entrapment is exposed.
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Oh, stonesoffire, it's both general and also personal, as it applies to individuals regarding whether or not they produce the fruit he says is "proof" of genuine salvation.

Logical fallacy exposed.
 
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Macabeus said:
NO, JESUS DID.

And that is not examining anyone's fruit, that is stating a biblical fact. SO I call out you and GB9 and anyone else who accused me of examining other people's fruits AS LIARS
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Does the statement apply to individuals here or not?
 
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Budman said:
Oh, stonesoffire, it's both general and also personal, as it applies to individuals regarding whether or not they produce the fruit he says is "proof" of genuine salvation.

Logical fallacy exposed.
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Fruit would be the evidence of Holy Spirit within.
 
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And you should calm down, Macabeus. Just because you're losing this debate splendidly, doesn't mean you have to get all angry about it.
 
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Budman said:
And you should calm down, Macabeus. Just because you're losing this debate splendidly, doesn't mean you have to get all angry about it.
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I don't care about winning a debate, and that just shows that you are in this for the wrong reason. If what you care about is winning a debate, you should sit down and shut up, because you are guilty of lying. Stating a general scriptural principle is not examing fruit. If that were so, everytime someone preaches a sermon that fornication, or lying, or adultery is sinful would be judging and examining individuals. You got caught in a lie and you can't escape. People who are winning debates don't need to lie.
 
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Budman said:
Yet again, by that logic, Mormons, JW's, Catholics, etc., are Holy Spirit filled Christians.
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I don't know about mormons or JWs but I know many Catholics are.

Fruit of the Spirit though. Whatcha mean to you? Bananas, oranges, lemons?
 
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