What kind of exclusive texts are we talking about here Duke.Notice how posters freeze like Bambi in the headlights before the texts I've posted and then duck them in favor of other more exclusive sounding texts, even though I've said that the relevance of these texts will be carefully considered after I dis\cuss the positive texts for release from Hell. When dogmatic souls find certain texts threatening, they stop thinking and simplstically cline to more familiar texts that support their misguided agenda. .
From our perspective one can't do enough in our relatively brief lifetimes to merit eternal conscious torment.
Our human sense of justice
(1) As Jesus' apostle. Peter understands well how Jesus teaches a potentially limited consignment to Hell. In 1 Peter 3:19 “prison” is an image of the abode of the evil dead from the time of Noah. This focus is due to Peter’s use of the Great Flood as an image of baptism. The assumption is that these evil dead can respond to Christ’s preaching and thus be redeemed:
“…He [Christ] went and made proclamation to the spirits in prison, who in former times did not obey, when God waited patiently in the days of Noah…(3:19)”
But none of what you write of and cite refers to the judgement of eternal life or eternal damnation.2. The possibility of ultimate release from Hades or Hell is implied by 3 NT texts that undermine the claim that ultimate salvation depends on a formal profession of faith in Christ in this earthly life.
Posthuman: "do you trust your human sense of judgement enough to judge what God can and cannot do? i don't.
i think that would be the apex of arrogance."
Well, an honest seeker must first assess whether biblical revelation is minimally moral and rationally credible. If the NT concept of Hell implies a morally monstrous God, then that is a good reason to dismiss the Bible as a compilation of myths and vindictive threats designed to justify a religion shaped by a fear-mongering cultural bias. Ah, but the NT can be defended from that legitimate scruple and I will continue to provide such a defense in my next planned post. So stay tuned.
Hell is not the lake of fire. Hell is the holding place of the dead
until the final judgement following the resurrection of all.
Hell is going to be thrown into the lake of fire.
Death is the last enemy to be abolished.
It does into the lake of fire also.
Jesus holds the keys to life and death![]()
Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”
the term aionios, for ever and ever, means everlasting. the Lord said He gives the sheep 'eternal life'[aionios] and the goats eternal judgment[aionios].-Matthew 25:46
if we say the eternal ends for goats, then brethren, are we not obligated to say our eternal life ends as well? God forbid, may it never be! brethren we must be careful in the way we handle the Scriptures, lest we be found giving the nations a false sense of security. i plead to everyone who is reading this, today is the day of salvation, repent and believe the gospel, tomorrow is not promised to any of us.
eternally grateful: "Lol So you want to teach and tell the world to go on eat drink and be merry, We can get out of hell (lake of fire) after we go there. We do not have to repent and receive the gift of eternal life in this lifetime
Why do Fundamentalist create a crude caricature of opposing positions to avoid the hard work of honest and open critical engagement?
Consignment to Hell is the most tragic fate possible, regardless of whether one's sojourn there is eternal. So to duck the issue and "eat, drink, and be merry" would be the ultimate folly. Please think more deeply and consider the case that will be laid out before you.
eternally grateful: "Yeah go ahead with that. I doubt God will look favorably on you when you try to explain to him why he has to let people out of hell who commited the unpardonable sin. Which jesus said will NEVER be forgiven, in this lifetime or the next."
I of course will consider the meaning of that text in detail when I have finished with the positive texts that support my case.
Isaiah 66: (ESV) 24 “And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.”
No modern academic commentary on Isaiah interprets this verse as a reference to Gehenna or Hell.