Trump Stands By Israel

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UnderGrace

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Locutus said:
More from VOX:

Jared Kushner’s many, many scandals, explained:

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Read all all abhart it.
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Yeah, started looking into this a while back, that is when I realized if the Pres is trying to put America first he sure has a lot of people around him that are not.

There is something off about that guy...some people think he is the antichrist, I mean he does own or did own a building, 666 Fifth Avenue...LOL
 
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UnderGrace said:
There is something off about that guy...some people think he is the antichrist, I mean he does own or did own a building, 666 Fifth Avenue...LOL
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At least we can rule out Pres Obama as the AC - if he'd have done 1/10 th of what Resident Rump has done the GOP supporters would have burned the WH down with him in it.
 
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Locutus said:
At least we can rule out Pres Obama as the AC - if he'd have done 1/10 th of what Resident Rump has done the GOP supporters would have burned the WH down with him in it.
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Hmm...back to the left - right paradigm... now lets put on a different lens outside of that paradigm perhaps

O's inaction created the perfect vacuum for Thumper's (gotta watch for that NSA, they collect data day and night) movement so to speak and the support of his pro-Zionist policy
 
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kaylagrl said:
Moving the embassy to Jerusalem and now recognizing the Golan Heights, Trump is keeping promises to Israel. I'm glad someone is finally doing it. He has my support 100%
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That is not a good thing, that is a scary thing, for all it does is get the New Age Christ, man of sin, that much closer to establishing peace in the Middle East, for he wants to deceive the Jews in the future that he is their God and Messiah, and the new age movement garbage, and that is because the man of sin is controlled by the devil who wants to deceive the Jews, for they are the key, for they must come to the truth as a nation that Jesus is their Messiah for God's plan to move forward, so the devil wants to hinder that.

But on the bright side it will be closer to the Jews as a nation to come to the truth, and the saints to be with Jesus.

Trump is also introducing the future mark of the beast, microchip, which he believes is a deterrent to crime for they can keep track of people's location, a GPS for humans, and for right now those that are on temporary visas, but he is getting the idea out there.

Republicans and Democrats are working together, the Hegel System, as well as Russia and America, and Trump is as much in on the plan as any Democrat, and it appears even more, for he is pushing for more things that have to do with it all going down than any other president.

The Hegel System sets up opposites, for it gets everyone involved no matter the issue, but no solution but back and forth, but then a compromise and they all come together.

America, and that type of system, Russia, and that type of system, opposites, Republican, conservative, Democrat, liberal, opposites, to get everyone involved, and then they bring them together with an entirely new system, which they believe is a better form of government, which will be the next kingdom, the ten horns, the 7th king, and then the 8th king, the antichrist.
 
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UnderGrace said:
You can believe as you will, I am just trying to wake you up. The only thing that is going to come from Christian Zionism is the subjugation of the Christians, the Talmud very clearly teaches how they truly feel about Christians

And in Kethuboth (3b) it says:
"The seed of a Goi (gentiles) is worth the same as that of a beast."

“Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)
* “All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)


Pastor Hagee
“The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses,” Hagee said.
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No, Hagee is right. Romans 11 confirms it. As I said, God is a Zionist. It is you who needs to wake up.
UnderGrace said:
You can believe as you will, I am just trying to wake you up. The only thing that is going to come from Christian Zionism is the subjugation of the Christians, the Talmud very clearly teaches how they truly feel about Christians

And in Kethuboth (3b) it says:
"The seed of a Goi (gentiles) is worth the same as that of a beast."

“Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)
* “All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)


Pastor Hagee
“The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses,” Hagee said.
Wrong
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Yeah, people take the Bible out of context too saying it's sexist,racist,promotes child sacrifice,rape and more.
 
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Locutus said:
Wrong - the remnant was saved in 1st century as we read in the NT - these are labeled the 144,000 of the twelve 12 tribes in Revelation and written to by James and Peter:

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

I don't see 12 tribes in "Israel" - all there is a a load of European immigrants.
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No, you are wrong!! What are you a bot now? Where did the doggie go?
 
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kaylagrl

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UnderGrace said:
Interesting how they managed to live in coexistence until the globalists (soon to be known as the ... military industrial complex)

decided to find ways to inflame hate by exploiting the land for political purposes.
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Explain to me why the Jews are not allowed to have a homeland, which was theirs in the first place,to live and defend? Jews have a 3000 yr history in the land, archeology proves that. Their continued cry was "next year in Jerusalem". Less then ten nations have been exiled in history,and only one has been able to return have been the Jews. It is the fulfillment of prophesy,it is a miracle. Jews sit on 1% of the land in the ME. After the Holocaust they were granted their land back again by the hand of God. And they have a right to it.
 
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kaylagrl

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MattforJesus said:
That is not a good thing, that is a scary thing, for all it does is get the New Age Christ, man of sin, that much closer to establishing peace in the Middle East, for he wants to deceive the Jews in the future that he is their God and Messiah, and the new age movement garbage, and that is because the man of sin is controlled by the devil who wants to deceive the Jews, for they are the key, for they must come to the truth as a nation that Jesus is their Messiah for God's plan to move forward, so the devil wants to hinder that.

But on the bright side it will be closer to the Jews as a nation to come to the truth, and the saints to be with Jesus.

Trump is also introducing the future mark of the beast, microchip, which he believes is a deterrent to crime for they can keep track of people's location, a GPS for humans, and for right now those that are on temporary visas, but he is getting the idea out there.

Republicans and Democrats are working together, the Hegel System, as well as Russia and America, and Trump is as much in on the plan as any Democrat, and it appears even more, for he is pushing for more things that have to do with it all going down than any other president.

The Hegel System sets up opposites, for it gets everyone involved no matter the issue, but no solution but back and forth, but then a compromise and they all come together.

America, and that type of system, Russia, and that type of system, opposites, Republican, conservative, Democrat, liberal, opposites, to get everyone involved, and then they bring them together with an entirely new system, which they believe is a better form of government, which will be the next kingdom, the ten horns, the 7th king, and then the 8th king, the antichrist.
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Whatever movements are happening is God leading things to the end. If you want to know the signs of the times look to Israel. That tells us where we are in time.
 
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From Vox news:

4) Jared is mentioned in Michael Flynn’s plea agreement:

At another point in the transition, Kushner instructed Flynn to call several foreign government officials, including Ambassador Kislyak, to ask them to try to block a pending United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Israel’s settlement policies. Flynn later lied to the FBI about these calls, as he admitted in his plea agreement with Mueller’s team.
 
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kaylagrl said:
No, Hagee is right. Romans 11 confirms it. As I said, God is a Zionist. It is you who needs to wake up.
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Romans does not support Hagee or other dispensational dogma.

God is not a Zionist in the sense that you understand it as Zion based on dirt in the middle east.

Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels.

It's too bad that many Christians have swallowed the dispensational delusion.
 
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UnderGrace

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It is really too bad, but one can see how it has definitely served a very important purpose.

Locutus said:
Romans does not support Hagee or other dispensational dogma.

God is not a Zionist in the sense that you understand it as Zion based on dirt in the middle east.

Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels.

It's too bad that many Christians have swallowed the dispensational delusion.
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kaylagrl said:
Explain to me why the Jews are not allowed to have a homeland, which was theirs in the first place,to live and defend? Jews have a 3000 yr history in the land, archeology proves that. Their continued cry was "next year in Jerusalem". Less then ten nations have been exiled in history,and only one has been able to return have been the Jews. It is the fulfillment of prophesy,it is a miracle. Jews sit on 1% of the land in the ME. After the Holocaust they were granted their land back again by the hand of God. And they have a right to it.
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just to be clear- Israel should be there, it is their land, given by God through Abraham.

I do not think there is a secret zionest cabal that runs major countries and controls all the banks. that is a silly conspiracy theory.

that being said, there is a " greater Israel " plan, and the Rothchilds do own land in Israel.

those 2 things are 100% true, you can look them up, and easily find lots about them.
 
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But for who?
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To rally Christian support, Presidents appeal to the evangelicals because there are votes to gain.
If the US ever went to elections by popular vote only, then I think that sector of the electorate would not be needed to gain office.
John Hagee and et. al delivers the votes.

United States was not always so pro-Zionist, a deeper analysis of the USS Liberty will reveal how the tide had shifted.
 
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This is interesting from the book "A program for the Jews" by Harry Walton"

2. When Hitler came to power and began to realize in practice his anti-Semitic philosophy, the Jews believed that this was only a local and temporary political disturbance, which would soon pass away, and the Jews in Germany would again enjoy peace and security. The Jews declared war against Nazi Germany, and by means of the boycott they believed that they would destroy the Nazi power in Germany, and would restore Germany to its former state.

http://www.gwb.com.au/2000/myers/book.htm
 
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UnderGrace said:
United States was not always so pro-Zionist, a deeper analysis of the USS Liberty will reveal how the tide had shifted.
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There's more.

The Jewish refugees the US turned away

In May 1939 more than 900 Jews fled Hitler's Germany on a luxury liner, the SS St Louis; they hoped to reach Cuba then travel to the US, but were turned away from both.

The increasingly desperate passengers were forced to sail back to Europe, where more than 250 of them were later killed by the Nazis.
Gerald Granston, who was six years old when he and his father travelled on the SS St Louis, recalls that frantic search for sanctuary across the Atlantic

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-39857056/the-jewish-refugees-the-us-turned-away
 
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Interesting isn't it

https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html




Locutus said:
This is interesting from the book "A program for the Jews" by Harry Walton"

2. When Hitler came to power and began to realize in practice his anti-Semitic philosophy, the Jews believed that this was only a local and temporary political disturbance, which would soon pass away, and the Jews in Germany would again enjoy peace and security. The Jews declared war against Nazi Germany, and by means of the boycott they believed that they would destroy the Nazi power in Germany, and would restore Germany to its former state.

http://www.gwb.com.au/2000/myers/book.htm
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