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breno785au

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you said Looks like both Muslims and Christians are currently being massacred.

that is what I responded to

perhaps you missed this:

according to 'Christianity Today' the following 50...yes 50..are the most dangerous countries in which to practice Christianity





I'm just trying to stay within the context of what I've noticed on this site and the two current events.
It just seemed like no one gave a crap that 50 people got massacred and I'm just hoping that it's not because of their religion that people don't seem to care on here.
 
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I'm just trying to stay within the context of what I've noticed on this site and the two current events.
It just seemed like no one gave a crap that 50 people got massacred and I'm just hoping that it's not because of their religion that people don't seem to care on here.

my concern was that no one was giving a crap about all the Nigerian Christians being murdered while bemoaning the muslim murders

try to get some perspective

do you watch the news or listen to the radio or read news sites online? there was a HUGE outcry over the New Zealand event

very very little about the Christians being slaughtered

that is my context and I guess the context of the person who started this thread

Islam is actually a political system, not a religion, and cannot be compared to what this site stands for

but I think you are off on your assumption no one cares

maybe it is the Christians in other lands being murdered by what people call 'extremist' muslims, that need some attention given to them

that is what this thread is about, so generally, that is what will be discussed

that's all
 
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@ Breno

here's an article I just found that seems to address both your concern and my concern. thought you might find it interesting


Saturday, 16 March 2019Media Reporting on New Zealand, but Did You Hear About That OTHER Bigotry-driven Massacre?

Written by Selwyn Duke





“If it bleeds, it leads” is, say critics, the morbid media standard. But it’s more accurate to say that if the right person bleeds, it leads. A good example would be the horrible massacres at two Christchurch, New Zealand, mosques by China-loving, anti-capitalist, self-described “eco-fascist” Brenton Harrison Tarrant and the massacres that Time forgot (along with the rest of the media).
Actually, the latter, recent incidents in Nigeria in which Muslim Fulani militants murdered a total of 23 Christians, are just part of a large category of massacres ignored by the mainstream media. But it’s not fair to say the media couldn’t care less about them.
They care very much about ignoring them.
Because these incidents involve the wrong people killing and the right people killed.

Were I inclined to score cheap political points, I’d take a leaf from the leftists’ book and say that the mainstream media just “don’t care when black people are killed.” Yet while this appears largely true, it’s mainly because they don’t seem to really care about anyone being killed (hence their support for pre, and now even post-natal infanticide).
To be clear, it does make sense that the Christchurch shooting would receive more coverage than a Nigerian massacre. New Zealand is part of the West and the Anglosphere, as are we, and that the nation is strikingly peaceful with an extremely low murder rate makes the carnage stand out; in contrast, violence is rife in Africa.
But a massacre isn’t the issue. As Chronicles reported Friday, according “to ‘Open Doors,’ at least 4,305 Christians known by name were murdered by Muslims because of their faith in 2018.”
Yet “known by name” may be the key words. According to the Baptist Press, approximately 6,000 Christians were murdered last year alone (as of August 6) in Nigeria “by jihadist Fulani herdsmen aided by resurging Boko Haram terrorists.”
Moreover, according to figures from organizations Christian Solidarity Worldwide and Christian Association of Nigeria, “the Fulani jihadists have destroyed more than 500 churches in the Middle Belt’s Benue State alone since 2011, and internally displaced about 800,000 people in the state, with 180,000 of them living in camps and others living with relatives or as squatters,” the site also reports.
Here are just a few examples, provided by Open Doors:
On February 17, 2018 Boko Haram militants attacked a Christian farming village in Borno State. The attack, in which 106 people were killed, specifically targeted male residents of the Christian community.
On April 24, 2018, militant Fulani herdsmen attacked a Catholic church in Benue State during a morning service, killing two priests and 17 parishioners. After the “shooting rampage,” the attackers reportedly “descended on the community and razed over 60 houses, farmland, food barns, after carting away what the people had in their barns.”
On June 23, 2018, 120 Christians were killed by Fulani militants in Plateau State, as they returned from attending a funeral.
Going beyond Africa, Chronicles presents a list of 10 terrorist acts in France, then tallies the victim numbers and writes, “That makes 261 dead and many more injured, in attacks by Muslims on non-Muslims, in less than four years, in only one country, France (pop. 66 million). With 66 dead a year on average, Frenchmen are exactly ten times more likely to be murdered by a Muslim than a Muslim being killed by a non-Muslim terrorist anywhere in the Western world.”
Furthermore, “Aid to the Church in Need, in its latest ‘Religious Freedom Report,’ warned that 300 million Christians, overwhelmingly in the majority-Muslim countries, were subjected to violence, making it ‘the most persecuted religion in the world,’” the site also tells us.
In contrast, “Terrorist attacks against Muslims in the Western world are extremely rare,” Chronicleswrites, adding perspective. “This morning’s carnage in two mosques in New Zealand, with the death toll currently at 50, is the first major event of its kind since the Quebec City mosque shooting— over two years ago — which killed six persons.”
In fact, a “Christian living in a majority Muslim country is 143 times more likely to be killed by a Muslim for being a Christian than a Muslim is…to be killed by a non-Muslim in a Western country for being what he is,” Chronicles further informs.
Given this, someone naïve might think the Christchurch shootings receive disproportionate attention because they’re a man-bites-dog story. But the reality is that the media want people to believe it’s a dog-bites-man story — and that rabid right-wing dogs are everywhere.
The media have not only been portraying the 28-year-old Tarrant, an Australian national, as a “white supremacist” (which he appears to be) but also as being of a kind with “President Trump, his supporters, and conservatives in general,” as The New American’s C. Mitchell Shaw wrote Friday.
This is more journalistic malpractice. Tarrant, who is in custody, penned a 2,644-word manifesto in which he quite literately detailed his passions, which included impugning conservatism, capitalism, and Trump’s leadership and policy-making; and expressing affection for China’s despotic regime. Explaining his ideological evolution, he wrote, “When I was young I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before coming to be an eco-fascist.”
But don’t bother the media with the facts. In fact, Chronicles writes that the Christchurch affair’s consequences are predictable (all quotations are Chronicles’):
• Pseudo-elites the Western world over, in and out of media, will characterize terrorism as a conservative, Christian, white phenomenon stoked by “racism, xenophobia, Islamophobia, and all other traits of the deplorables; and yes, it will be Trump’s fault to boot.”
• Islamic activists embedded in the West, such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations, “and its fellow-conspirators elsewhere, will clamor for ever more stringent laws criminalizing ‘Islamophobia,’ effectively defined as any form of meaningful debate of Islam, its scriptural message, historical practice, and current ambitions.”
• “Such demands will be promptly translated into legislative proposals by the jihadophile liberal class which will proclaim zero tolerance of ‘Islamophobia’ as defined by CAIR et al. And, of course, they will demand additional Soviet/Nazi style gun laws.”
Ironically, this is precisely what Tarrant wants. He wrote in his manifesto that he perpetrated his act with firearms precisely because of the “affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states [sic] and thereby the political situation of the world.” He knew the media would beat the anti-Second Amendment drum; he aimed to catalyze a removal of gun rights, which, he believed, would evoke a strong reaction from the Right — and this, he hoped, would spark a civil war.
So given how pseudo-elites have long been complicit in aiding jihadism via media-malpractice acts of omission and commission, one could ask: Is there any terrorist whose bidding they won’t do?
Photo of mourner at funeral for slain Christians in Minya, Egypt, Nov. 3, 2018: AP Images

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breno785au

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my concern was that no one was giving a crap about all the Nigerian Christians being murdered while bemoaning the muslim murders

try to get some perspective

do you watch the news or listen to the radio or read news sites online? there was a HUGE outcry over the New Zealand event

very very little about the Christians being slaughtered

that is my context and I guess the context of the person who started this thread

Islam is actually a political system, not a religion, and cannot be compared to what this site stands for

but I think you are off on your assumption no one cares

maybe it is the Christians in other lands being murdered by what people call 'extremist' muslims, that need some attention given to them

that is what this thread is about, so generally, that is what will be discussed

that's all
You continue to discuss it in your context and I will continue to discussing it in mine.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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They are playing their part well aren't they....... those NAR types

Here is another one for you Mr. Locutus

“All the world’s a stage,
And all the men and women merely players
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actually the world is not a stage

the world is created by God who gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life...that includes ALL people on this planet and all beliefs

I don't know if you believe that or not, but it is something you should think about

50 people were just murdered and they did not know Christ...of course if you think ALLAH is God then you have no sorrow over the matter

it seems you have no sorrow over the Christians killed by muslims if your posts are any indication
 

breno785au

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or you could read the article
I think we both posted at the same time.. And I do understand what you are saying and I agree with you. I don't trust the media myself.

But what I've noticed on CC on the other hand and the prior attitudes that I've people seen towards Muslims over the years on CC.
 
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I think we both posted at the same time.. And I do understand what you are saying and I agree with you. I don't trust the media myself.

But what I've noticed on CC on the other hand and the prior attitudes that I've people seen towards Muslims over the years on CC.

yeah...it did look that way

some years back, I saw a video put out by a an ex muslim and he basically said that muslims were coming to America both to convert others to Islam and to eventually take over the country

I don't remember how he was converted, but he had become a Christian and was both warning Christians that Islam is not a peaceful religion even though you keep hearing that and also that God can and does reach muslims who do convert to believe in Jesus Christ

there is an attitude among Christians here in North America (not everyone of course) that needs a good shaking up and I don't like to think about how that might occur

anyway...thanks...I am against the spirit behind Islam but I am also against the frivolity and lack attitude so many Christians display

we live in serious times
 

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On 16 March, Breitbart reported that “Nigerian Muslim militants” had killed 120 Christians within a space of three weeks since late February 2019. In another article published the next day, the same author wrote that “Political leaders and public figures were falling over themselves this weekend to condemn the mosque attacks in New Zealand, while dozens of Christians were slaughtered by Muslims in Nigeria to the sound of crickets.”

Although not entirely reliable, local news reports largely corroborate the incidents and deaths described by Breitbart and Christian Solidarity Worldwide. It is difficult to arrive at a definitive total number of persons killed, but the numbers claimed by Breitbart and Christian Solidarity Worldwide are certainly plausible and, unfortunately, in keeping with the ongoing farmer-herder conflict that has affected parts of Nigeria in recent years.

However, that conflict has a complex set of causes and motivations, and the Breitbart and Christian Post articles in March 2019 served readers poorly by focusing exclusively on the religious affiliations of the groups involved — something that impartial experts have presented as not being a central cause of the conflict — while failing to mention other, much more relevant factors.

Full Snopesys:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nigeria-christians-muslims/
 
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Exactly, conflict is rarely only about religion, it is about power and control.

Now snopes is not that reliable btw...


On 16 March, Breitbart reported that “Nigerian Muslim militants” had killed 120 Christians within a space of three weeks since late February 2019. In another article published the next day, the same author wrote that “Political leaders and public figures were falling over themselves this weekend to condemn the mosque attacks in New Zealand, while dozens of Christians were slaughtered by Muslims in Nigeria to the sound of crickets.”

Although not entirely reliable, local news reports largely corroborate the incidents and deaths described by Breitbart and Christian Solidarity Worldwide. It is difficult to arrive at a definitive total number of persons killed, but the numbers claimed by Breitbart and Christian Solidarity Worldwide are certainly plausible and, unfortunately, in keeping with the ongoing farmer-herder conflict that has affected parts of Nigeria in recent years.

However, that conflict has a complex set of causes and motivations, and the Breitbart and Christian Post articles in March 2019 served readers poorly by focusing exclusively on the religious affiliations of the groups involved — something that impartial experts have presented as not being a central cause of the conflict — while failing to mention other, much more relevant factors.

Full Snopesys:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nigeria-christians-muslims/
 

Locutus

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A Voice of America report on the killing of Muslims in revenge attacks in the south of Nigeria states:

The death toll from five days of Muslim-Christian violence in Nigeria is up to at least 64 following more violence in the south. Christian mobs in the city of Onitsha killed at least 19 people, mostly Muslims, Wednesday.

Witnesses describe a bloody scene with Christian rioters using machetes to slash and mutilate their victims. At one point, soldiers used force against the rioters to block more attacks.

The violence in Onitsha began Tuesday when at least 12 people were killed during Christian attacks on Muslims. Those riots were in reprisal for riots targeting Christians in Nigeria's largely Muslim north.

At least 33 people, mostly Christians, were killed when Muslims rioted in the cities of Bauchi and Maiduguri earlier in the week. (Voice of America (22 February 2006)

https://www.refworld.org/pdfid/49b91f0c2.pdf
 
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When humans no longer recognize their fellow humans as humans, but view them as cockroaches and heretics, violence suddenly makes sense. I pray that we will all recognize our brothers and sisters whether they are Christian, Muslim or anything else.