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What do you do? How are you soul-winning? How are you preaching the gospel? SEems to me you are interested in preaching your false gospel to ALREADY CHRISTIAN people, thats a waste of time buddy. Arguing on the internet isnt preaching the gospel!
SON
I come from the gutter, how do you think I heard the gospel? By looking up a Christian Forum and watching some smartypants run his babblebox? NO! I had it PREACHED to me!
HOW SHALL THEY HEAR without a preacher?
Your doctrine sucks! Aitn nobody getting saved with your fake ministry, including you, unrealistic expectations of perfection from day one. UNLESS IM WRONG?
HOW ABOUT THIS SON: Give us your Gospel presentation right now, RIGHT NOW, write it down. WHAT WOULD YOU tell a lost man, boy?
A person doesn't even get saved in the first place if they do not confess and repent and call on Jesus.
I met someone doing open airs, and a single sentence, led them to church and finally the Lord.
Anything, anywhere, anyhow in love and power.
Doing this on the streets seems better, because people can choose to avoid.
Doing events where people can come along, like concerts, events, Alpha bears results.
I have seen this video today which is very interesting.
The proposition is a lack of masculine identity in our churches puts guys off.
So evangelism is important, taking on the challenges of sharing His love and victory,
but more crucial is giving guys a real home in their fellowships.
E
eternally-gratefull
Guest
I am afraid to ask, Who are you talking to? or should I say which one?
AMEN on the bold! This is definately true. I come from a pentecostal background adn those churches are literally ran by women. VERY FEMININE environment. I saw a statistic on it, and there are way more women Christians than men! I bet the idea of being the bride of Christ isnt appealing to unsaved dudes lol.
Its hard to get thugs from the streets to join a church like that! THE GUTTA crew.
But you know, we're WORKING ON IT. The Church I attend now is much more balanced.
Im talking to TwistingGodsTruth.
Apologies for sonning him, but i just got no respect for that dude. None whatsoever. Im sick of him talking down to the entire Christian community. Saying im "destroying" people by telling them the Gospel. I wonder what has he done?
Can I be friendly with such a person? No.
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
lol, Thats why I placed him in my prayer bin. He made up his own gospel.. and I was ick of it to. so I sent it to his room?
U
UnderGrace
Guest
Then why do you preach against His revealed truth?
The new testament is not a new law book, this is plainly obvious and yet you argue it is??
There is a group going round the UK trying to get churches to focus on sharing ones faith.
They go for the 3 minutes approach, 1 minute what I was like before I came to christ, 1 minute on how I came to Christ
and 1 minute on how my life changed.
They used a three world illustration. God alone, man alone, Christ opening the door and asking one in, believer in heaven.
And then asking the person you are talking to where they would put themselves and then introducing steps they can take
to achieve the next steps. Like most techniques it works occasionally but is often too like a formula.
Another suggestion is taking a character in the gospel and how they expressed their love of Christ.
I would take the woman who washed Jesus's feet with her tears and dried them with her hair.
Another could be Peter taking a sword to defend Jesus and cutting off the servants ear.
Right ambition, wrong implementation.
You, are not, soul winning.
You had a false gospel taught to you!!!
You are not the one doing it.
You are wrong.
Search for God by getting Jesus' teachings in the New Testament. Find God by obeying Jesus' teachings.
U
UnderGrace
Guest
Surely God would have revealed what is meant by repentance and confession?
BWAHAHAHAHA.
I asked TwistingGodsTruth for his gospel presentation, what he would say to a lost man, and THIS IS what he said:
I can see you have NEVER dealt with real-life situations or real souls! We are talking THE STREETS here. The gutta. The dopeheads, the OGs, do you expect them to just read the entire New Testament because you told them to? Then just put it all into practice the next day? RIDICILOUS! You are giving them NO conviction of sin, NO HOPE, no death burial resurrection, no blood of Jesus. YET im the one preaching the false gospel?
"Well, i guess i will just read the entire New Testament, this one guy told me to do so, he didnt explain the gospel to me at all or anything, just told me to read it so. Lets see now: Matthew 23 do all the pharisees say for they sit on Moses' seat. Okay well looks like I have to become an orthodox jew to be saved. THANKS PREACHER."
I asked TwistingGodsTruth for his gospel presentation, what he would say to a lost man, and THIS IS what he said:
GOOD LUCK preaching that on the streets!
I can see you have NEVER dealt with real-life situations or real souls! We are talking THE STREETS here. The gutta. The dopeheads, the OGs, do you expect them to just read the entire New Testament because you told them to? Then just put it all into practice the next day? RIDICILOUS! You are giving them NO conviction of sin, NO HOPE, no death burial resurrection, no blood of Jesus. YET im the one preaching the false gospel?
"Well, i guess i will just read the entire New Testament, this one guy told me to do so, he didnt explain the gospel to me at all or anything, just told me to read it so. Lets see now: Matthew 23 do all the pharisees say for they sit on Moses' seat. Okay well looks like I have to become an orthodox jew to be saved. THANKS PREACHER."
Irony alert:
The very Scriptures you quote are translated by unsaved sons of hell according to your belief system.
No one needs a church.
Your church is preaching falseness.
Everyone has to search for GOD and told how to.
You go against obedience to Christ.
This isn't the days of people not knowing about Jesus!
This is the day of ANYONE and EVERYONE knowing and being able to know God.
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
That sounds like something paul would say to a city when he went to open the word of God, "Search for Jesus teachings!!"
lol.. If we could obey ourselves to salvation, WHy did Jesus come in the first place. He should have just stayed in heaven, and gave us the power to obey.. because we could save ourselves
Bearing false witness, YET AGAIN? Will you apologize for this one? Probably not, (again) But you should, or you lost your salvation again, good grief man. WHy do we have an unsaved sinner preaching to us? Oy vey!
I never went against obedience to Christ!
E