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Budman

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Of course your intension is to be friendly, encouraging, loving, kind, considerate, generous, thinking
the best of others, and giving space to hear what people want to share.
I have heard what you want to share, and I reject it.

I see the opposite, so its intended end is clear.
Hey! Don't judge me! :LOL:
 

Hevosmies

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We have to expect it in a christian open forum/ Satan does not want peace/ and he wants to keep the truth from getting out.
I guess you are right. Its just that i havent really been an active forum user ever.

Now in my civilian life I decided to give it an active try.

Its just so much different from the way I talk with people in real life. Maybe the internet just brings out the weirdos. I have never heard a lot of the stuff I read about in real life. Also it could be like you said that these people are just trolls, just coming in to get our attention and waste our time. You never know with the internet. I guess im just taking it a bit too seriously!
 

Budman

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Man this forum is becoming a deathzone, I might take a hike soon. In many threads recently we got some ABSOLUTE heretics. And im not talking about people who disagree with me, thats not heresy.

Im talking about guys like Axe"Elf" who deny that the Bible is historically/scientifically accurate, contradict the Bible, mock the flood of noah etc. And guys like yourtruthforGod bearing false witness while claiming to obey Jesus and being sinless. There was also teh depressign thread where TALKING TO THE DEAD was being discussed and people were utterly confused on if its necromancy and sin or not and those who called it out were then called "perfect christians" who "condemn people" by quoting the Bible.... :rolleyes:

Talking to the dead. That is an absolutely perfect way of describing them. (y)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I guess you are right. Its just that i havent really been an active forum user ever.

Now in my civilian life I decided to give it an active try.

Its just so much different from the way I talk with people in real life. Maybe the internet just brings out the weirdos. I have never heard a lot of the stuff I read about in real life. Also it could be like you said that these people are just trolls, just coming in to get our attention and waste our time. You never know with the internet.
It is hard.

Thats why tryign to be active in these rooms can sometimes drive you crazy.. I had to start ignoring people or I would not be here now..
 

YourTruthGod

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Excuse me?

John said IF WE SAY, He included himself in that passage. Present tense.

John admitted he was not without sin, Just like Paul did in romans 7. And John said people like you who claim you are without sin are decieved. And there is no truth in you.
John is speaking to those who are believers, himself included that if they didn't admit to being sinners then they did not repent of their sins then they are not saved.
 

FollowHisSteps

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You know, the people who fight for faith alone, I have realized that they have not obeyed Jesus in any way and have not stopped one sin, or else they would preach obedience too. It is so good to obey Jesus.
A lot of these people have a lifetime in churches and know everything about lifestyle and
theology, except they have not actually listened to Jesus and their hearts are hard as iron.

Mention anything about care, love, emotions, expression, openness and it is abuse none stop.
Talk about walking like Jesus or getting closer to Him, and it is like a pack of bees wanting to sting.

Which spirit gets enraged by the things of God? Is it sinful pride or the redeemed heart of Christ?
The anger expressed is "stamp out" or "eternal warfare", so they are a serious bunch of lovers of
Gods people. :love: Maybe Jesus's term should be used here Matthew 12:34

For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.
The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him.
But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.
Matt 12:34-36

An updated version of this would be, "for every careless word they have typed"
Ofcourse for the fearful it is only the Bema seat of Christ so no worries.
Not a hope, with the level of hatred and unbelief shown.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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John is speaking to those who are believers, himself included that if they didn't admit to being sinners then they did not repent of their sins then they are not saved.
WHAT?

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

I am starting to think you are not serious you are just here to bully people..Do you think it is funny or something?
 

YourTruthGod

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If we obey the whole law, yet fail in one point, we are guilty of the whole law.
When ar eyou going to admit your own sin and stop judgingn everyone else's


Who was justified. The tax collector of the pharisee?
The tax collector repented of his sin. The Pharisee did not repent of his sins.
 

FollowHisSteps

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It is not perverted to obey God.
Here is the excuse. We can continue in sin because we are forgiven and sin has already been ignored.
In this world someone could jump down and murder everyone, and still go to heaven and be welcomed
in as a chosen Child of God.

So obeying God is now evil, and they do not realise the enemy has taken their hearts and they are
lost by this very declaration of rebellion.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The tax collector repented of his sin. The Pharisee did not repent of his sins.
The tax collector confessed he was a sinner, and became broken to the point he could not even look to heaven.

The pharisee did not think he sinned. Thus did nto need a savior. While praising God he wa snot like the tax collector.

How you can not see this just goes to further show you lack of discernment.
 

FollowHisSteps

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I have heard what you want to share, and I reject it.
Hey! Don't judge me! :LOL:
Thank you for raising an important distinction.
A man appears with a knife and stabs someone.
It is not judging anyone to say, they have a knife and have stabbed someone.
Only a fool would call the description of an event judgement.

Judging something is saying it is right or wrong, so approving or condemning it.
So you have judged what I have shared and rejected it. :cry:

I am sad for you because I have just shared the gospel of salvation as declared by the
Nazarene church, most believers would regard as a church of Gods people.

And I described what you were doing, which is not judging but describing it.
It is for God to judge your behaviour not me, God bless you.
 

YourTruthGod

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A lot of these people have a lifetime in churches and know everything about lifestyle and
theology, except they have not actually listened to Jesus and their hearts are hard as iron.

Mention anything about care, love, emotions, expression, openness and it is abuse none stop.
Talk about walking like Jesus or getting closer to Him, and it is like a pack of bees wanting to sting.

Which spirit gets enraged by the things of God? Is it sinful pride or the redeemed heart of Christ?
The anger expressed is "stamp out" or "eternal warfare", so they are a serious bunch of lovers of
Gods people. :love: Maybe Jesus's term should be used here Matthew 12:34

For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.
The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him.
But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.
Matt 12:34-36

An updated version of this would be, "for every careless word they have typed"
Ofcourse for the fearful it is only the Bema seat of Christ so no worries.
Not a hope, with the level of hatred and unbelief shown.
Those are excellent points.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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People need to learn the difference between justification (by faith) and sanctification (Christian growth)

This thread is about how one is saved, Not how the saved mature in christ by allowing God to work in them to grow them to become christlike.