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Not all anger is sin
And no matter what sin one commits. It starts out with looking inside, at self. Something the bibles calls the flesh nature. And that thought was allowed to continue, which ended up taking the form of action (what ever sin one commited because they were in the flesh) because they di not love others and God like they were supposed to.
And no matter what sin one commits. It starts out with looking inside, at self. Something the bibles calls the flesh nature. And that thought was allowed to continue, which ended up taking the form of action (what ever sin one commited because they were in the flesh) because they di not love others and God like they were supposed to.
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Sure, I can try. 
[the pace of this thread is much too fast, I'm falling so far behind and cannot keep up! lol]
The CONTEXT of 1Cor9 is in an entire section (chpts 9-13, at least, or even the entire epistle, actually) where Paul is vindicating his APOSTLESHIP, and that verse (you put) is in a chpt that STARTS OUT with:
1 Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you yourselves not my workmanship in the Lord? 2 Even if I am not an apostle to others, surely I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
3 This is my defense to those who scrutinize me: 4 Have we no right to food and to drink? 5 Have we no right to take along a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas? 6 Or are Barnabas and I the only apostles who must work for a living?
7 Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat of its fruit? Who tends a flock and does not drink of its milk?
8 Do I say this from a human perspective? Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? 9 For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God is concerned? 10 Isn’t He actually speaking on our behalf? Indeed, this was written for us, because when the plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they should also expect to share in the harvest.
11 If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much for us to reap a material harvest from you? 12 If others have this right to your support, shouldn’t we have it all the more? But we did not exercise this right. Instead, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ.
[note that last verse, in the bold... HERE is the crux of this context, and the verse you put forth]
[the pace of this thread is much too fast, I'm falling so far behind and cannot keep up! lol]The CONTEXT of 1Cor9 is in an entire section (chpts 9-13, at least, or even the entire epistle, actually) where Paul is vindicating his APOSTLESHIP, and that verse (you put) is in a chpt that STARTS OUT with:
1 Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you yourselves not my workmanship in the Lord? 2 Even if I am not an apostle to others, surely I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
3 This is my defense to those who scrutinize me: 4 Have we no right to food and to drink? 5 Have we no right to take along a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas? 6 Or are Barnabas and I the only apostles who must work for a living?
7 Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat of its fruit? Who tends a flock and does not drink of its milk?
8 Do I say this from a human perspective? Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? 9 For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God is concerned? 10 Isn’t He actually speaking on our behalf? Indeed, this was written for us, because when the plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they should also expect to share in the harvest.
11 If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much for us to reap a material harvest from you? 12 If others have this right to your support, shouldn’t we have it all the more? But we did not exercise this right. Instead, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ.
[note that last verse, in the bold... HERE is the crux of this context, and the verse you put forth]
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Now you are just bearing false witness! ALL the reformed peopel I know live obedient lives! TO BE HONEST: The pentecostals seem a lot more worldly to me than reformed people! I have experience from both churchrs.
Also as I said earlier I have stopped many sins, but not ALL, in fact, I dont probably even KNOW all the sins I need to stop!
Anyhow, you just lost your record of sinlessness by bearing false witness, LYING and saying faith alone people have not obeyed Jesus "in any way" and have not stopped "ONE SIN!"
Frying time for you boy! You had a good run of sinlessness! Bearing false witness seems to be obeying Jesus these days
Also as I said earlier I have stopped many sins, but not ALL, in fact, I dont probably even KNOW all the sins I need to stop!
Anyhow, you just lost your record of sinlessness by bearing false witness, LYING and saying faith alone people have not obeyed Jesus "in any way" and have not stopped "ONE SIN!"
Frying time for you boy! You had a good run of sinlessness! Bearing false witness seems to be obeying Jesus these days
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I am describing what you are doing, that is not judgement.
A comparison is pointing out something that is true, it is up to others if they wish to judge or not.
The trap you pose is to become your reflection. God bless you, that is not what the Holy Spirit tells me to do.
We are just here to witness to His fruit and His blessing. If you cannot handle the light, you can always
go elsewhere.
A comparison is pointing out something that is true, it is up to others if they wish to judge or not.
The trap you pose is to become your reflection. God bless you, that is not what the Holy Spirit tells me to do.
We are just here to witness to His fruit and His blessing. If you cannot handle the light, you can always
go elsewhere.
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More lies How far will you go?
This thread is about how we are justified. Not how we become spiritually mature. If you want to discuss that, Open another thread.
Yet further proof you are a hypocrite. You demand people what you yourself cna not do. Then again, All legalists do this.. So we should not expect any different/
This thread is about how we are justified. Not how we become spiritually mature. If you want to discuss that, Open another thread.
Yet further proof you are a hypocrite. You demand people what you yourself cna not do. Then again, All legalists do this.. So we should not expect any different/
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Man this forum is becoming a deathzone, I might take a hike soon. In many threads recently we got some ABSOLUTE heretics. And im not talking about people who disagree with me, thats not heresy.
Im talking about guys like Axe"Elf" who deny that the Bible is historically/scientifically accurate, contradict the Bible, mock the flood of noah etc. And guys like yourtruthforGod bearing false witness while claiming to obey Jesus and being sinless. There was also teh depressign thread where TALKING TO THE DEAD was being discussed and people were utterly confused on if its necromancy and sin or not and those who called it out were then called "perfect christians" who "condemn people" by quoting the Bible....
Im talking about guys like Axe"Elf" who deny that the Bible is historically/scientifically accurate, contradict the Bible, mock the flood of noah etc. And guys like yourtruthforGod bearing false witness while claiming to obey Jesus and being sinless. There was also teh depressign thread where TALKING TO THE DEAD was being discussed and people were utterly confused on if its necromancy and sin or not and those who called it out were then called "perfect christians" who "condemn people" by quoting the Bible....
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Man this forum is becoming a deathzone, I might take a hike soon. In almost every thread you have some ABSOLUTE heretics. And im not talking about people who disagree with me, thats not heresy.
Im talking about guys like Axe"Elf" who deny that the Bible is historically/scientifically accurate, contradict the Bible, mock the flood of noah etc. And guys like yourtruthforGod bearing false witness while claiming to obey Jesus and being sinless. There was also teh depressign thread where TALKING TO THE DEAD was being discussed and people were utterly confused on if its necromancy and sin or not and those who called it out were then called "perfect christians" who "condemn people" by quoting the Bible....
Im talking about guys like Axe"Elf" who deny that the Bible is historically/scientifically accurate, contradict the Bible, mock the flood of noah etc. And guys like yourtruthforGod bearing false witness while claiming to obey Jesus and being sinless. There was also teh depressign thread where TALKING TO THE DEAD was being discussed and people were utterly confused on if its necromancy and sin or not and those who called it out were then called "perfect christians" who "condemn people" by quoting the Bible....
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EDIT ^ : Sorry, insufficient time to EDIT... in my saying Paul was "vindicating his apostleship," that was regarding 2 Corinthians, not 1 Corinthians. Here in this context, he is indeed speaking to his "freedoms" and yet limiting them "for the sake of the gospel," i.e. those listening to him/his msg. [this isn't speaking to "sins"]