Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

For the ones she leads astray is the only reason I am.....she peddles and portrays herself as this righteous tenant of truth....and I flat despise frauds and those with no honesty or integrity

Who would buy her nonsense? She lies, and does nto even keep her own word.

Thats not going to attract people to her way.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You are not speaking the truth about me.

Faith alone is dead and cannot save anyone.

Faith alone is not faith
Death faith is not dead.

It is what James calls belief!

Jesus tells us who he saves and why.
He tells us what to do to get saved.

Yep. Believe in the name of the son of God and you will be saved.

Grace is that we come to God through Jesus' shed blood on the cross, and we repent of our sins and have faith that his blood washes us clean of the SINS we REPENT of doing.

Grace is nothing of the sort.
But you do not study greek or hebrew, so you can not figure this out.

Like I said, You need to find a real church.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Faith alone is dead and cannot save anyone.

Jesus tells us who he saves and why.
He tells us what to do to get saved.

1 John 5:9-12 [blb] -

God's Testimony about His Son

9 If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater. For this is the testimony of God that He has testified concerning His Son. 10 The one believing in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one not believing God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning His Son.

11 And this is the testimony: that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 The one having the Son has life; the one not having the Son of God does not have life.

 

[dcontroversal]

You say you spoke openly....
You spoke about me....
That's like speaking to a crowd of persons,,,calling me dishonest, and a liar, which is slander.
If you were on any other forum you would have been banned a long time ago....
This is unacceptable in a christian forum such as this is.

How did you know I'd ever see that post?
You don't tag me and that's speaking about me without my knowledge.

Since Jesus says that we can do nothing without Him...
I do question the dwelling of the Holy Spirit in some here.
The Holy Spirit is apparently very far from them.

Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

2 Corinthians 3:18
And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.

Speaking of banned, you have already been banned and back under a new name right?

Do you have the honesty and integrity to admit it...? Nope and you peddle a losable salvation....wow....how do we take that Fran

 

[YourTruthGod]

The passage in James.
Faith without works is dead.

Look at the whole chapter, that is what he was addressing.

I have looked at the whole chapter.

James 2:14-18

Faith Without Works Is Dead
(cf. Gen. 22; Josh. 2)
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

Faith alone does NOT save. It is dead.

 

[dcontroversal]

Who would buy her nonsense? She lies, and does nto even keep her own word.

Thats not going to attract people to her way.

Several do....I have even seen one in particular dude that was on the road to truth be deceived by her deceit and then turned against logical deduced biblical conclusions.....tragically I might add......

 

[YourTruthGod]

I gave you the greek defenition

Your wrong

But you have no desire to study greek (your words) so you will never see the truth in this matter.

We don't have to learn another language to know God and be saved.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Got to love deceivers that disagree with the following truths......speaks multitudes to who leads them!!!!!!
And God is not it.....

Salvation is a once for all act with present continuing results.....It is all Christ, his power, his promises, his faith, his work.....eternal/everlasting mean exactly that....it is not temporal based upon what we do or don't do....and no matter the "experience" there is only one way to be saved, by grace through faith and that faith comes by hearing the word of God

Jesus IS FULL of GRACE. His WORDS ARE SPIRIT and LIFE.
Never ever would God make a covenant that condemns those who preach obedience to get saved and to stay saved.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Several do....I have even seen one in particular dude that was on the road to truth be deceived by her deceit and then turned against logical deduced biblical conclusions.....tragically I might add......

If this is so. He would never have found truth to begin with.

She just strengthened his true feelings. And empowered him.

You and I can not stop that from happening.

 

[dcontroversal]

We don't have to learn another language to know God and be saved.

Explain the following word ANOTHER....another which is not another<--a prime example of why WE USE THE GREEK

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We don't have to learn another language to know God and be saved.

No, But you have to look into the langiage that God chose to write the word to figure out what the word actually says, Because the enlgish language is a weak flawed language

denying the greek or hebrew is to deny the word

 

[YourTruthGod]

well this is not found in scripture.... in any translation


Ezekiel 36:26
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

They get a NEW HEART BY REPENTING OF THEIR SINS.

Read Ezekiel 18:31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel?

They will die BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT OBEY and REPENT of their sins.

 

[dcontroversal]

Jesus IS FULL of GRACE. His WORDS ARE SPIRIT and LIFE.
Never ever would God make a covenant that condemns those who preach obedience to get saved and to stay saved.

Sure he does....Galatians.....obedience to the law or commandments saves no one.....FAITH is what saves.....not your obedience laced drivel

 

[YourTruthGod]

1 John 5:9-12 [blb] -

God's Testimony about His Son

9 If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater. For this is the testimony of God that He has testified concerning His Son. 10 The one believing in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one not believing God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning His Son.

11 And this is the testimony: that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 The one having the Son has life; the one not having the Son of God does not have life.

We have to believe that we have to go through Jesus and obey him.

All the scriptures that say to 'believe', they do NOT nullify the scriptures that say to obey.

 

[dcontroversal]

Yes lets censor ...NOT

Absolutely and totally disagree, a disciple is a learner. One cannot learn from Him unless one is in Him and He is in them.

Being "born again" is a roadblock for the workers, it is impossible to be born again and work for salvation, not liking the complete road block for those justifying themselves therefore lets just not talk about that....hmm??

My concern for you has gone up considerably.

This thread is about not needing works for salvation which we are all waiting for you to refute btw...

Amen.....and let's talk about how the disciples of Jesus are to be HONEST, have Integrity and not be disobedient and break the rules of a Christian web site <-- @GodsGrace101

 

[YourTruthGod]

Explain the following word ANOTHER....another which is not another<--a prime example of why WE USE THE GREEK

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

What are you trying to say about 'another'?

 

[dcontroversal]

It truly amazes me to see how just about everything that I explain to you continues to go right over your head.

What irony.

One must be born from above to understand the word.....

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

They get a NEW HEART BY REPENTING OF THEIR SINS.

Read Ezekiel 18:31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel?

They will die BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT OBEY and REPENT of their sins.

Compare Ezekiel 18 (your passage; note your verse 31: "get [for] yourselves" - https://biblehub.com/text/ezekiel/18-31.htm ) with that of Ezekiel 37 ["I WILL"].

Then note the following (Commentary by Gaebelein, source: Bible Hub), on Ezekiel 18:

[quoting]

"Ezekiel 18:1
The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying,
Ezekiel 18:1-32. In Ezekiel 18:1-4, we find the false accusation against God and the divine answer, and this is followed in Ezekiel 18:5-9 by the conditions of life, “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” (Ezekiel 18:4). But the conditions to have life and to be just cannot be fulfilled by sinful man; nor is In these verses “eternal life” in view; these are not conditions to secure “eternal life,” but to escape physical death in the announced judgment. The conditions which bring death are given in Ezekiel 18:10-13. The son does not die for his father’s sins, as they thought in their wrong reasonings (Ezekiel 18:14-20). All their accusations that the Lord is unjust are completely answered in the final paragraph of this message (Ezekiel 18:21-32).
"Ezekiel 19:1-14. This lamentation has two sections. The lamentations for the princes come first (Ezekiel 19:1-9), and that is followed by the lamentation for the land of Judah (Ezekiel 19:10-14).

"The princes are Jehoahaz and Jehoiachin. King Jehoahaz was carried away captive into Egypt 2Kings 23:33; his fate is lamented in Ezekiel 19:1-4. King Jehoiachin was taken to Babylon and he is lamented in Ezekiel 19:5-9. In the lamentation for the land of Judah the vine is once more mentioned. The vine is burned, the fruit devoured and there is no scepter in Judah."

--Gaebelein, Commentary on Ezekiel 18

[end quoting; bold and underline mine]

 

[dcontroversal]

What are you trying to say about 'another'?

Does another which is not another make sense......TWO DIFFERENT GREEK WORDS, TWO DIFFERENT MEANINGS translated the same........!!

 

[YourTruthGod]

No, But you have to look into the langiage that God chose to write the word to figure out what the word actually says, Because the enlgish language is a weak flawed language

denying the greek or hebrew is to deny the word

No such thing.