Jesus’ Sins, and Ours

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According to what I understand of biology, the blood of any child comes from the father. The mother's role is to provide nutrition and oxygen only.

Which is good because sin is in the blood, if Jesus's blood came from Mary, it would have been tainted with the original sin.

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placenta
You should go join a secular anti-biblical site because you peddle some deep do do man....So Genius...let us reason if you can.....the seed of the woman was in MARY....BABIES ARE CONNECTED BY THE UMBILICIAL CORD which SUPPLIES BLOOD, OXYGEN, NUTRIENTS TO THE DEVELOPING CHILD......ANYTHING THE MOTHER EATS, DRINKS AFFECTS THE CHILD BECAUSE THEY SHARE THE BLOOD.....

You guys should quit posting until you gain some knowledge....serious!!!!
 
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You must be dense or never study....and the above is one of the top 10 most ignorant things that I have seen come out of the mind of one claiming to believe and reeks of ignorance, a lack of study and or honesty with the scriptures and or verbiage used in the word....IT BORDERS ON Satanic!!

He was called the SON OF MAN for a reason

The seed of the WOMAN genesis 3:15 <--It does not state SEED OF THE FATHER

Galatians 4:4 But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law

ek or ex: from, from out of
Original Word: ἐκ, ἐξ
Part of Speech: Preposition
Transliteration: ek or ex
Phonetic Spelling: (ek)
Definition: from, from out of
Usage: from out, out from among, from, suggesting from the interior outwards



He was called the Son of Man because He came by design in the flesh to be a sacrifice. He had to be pure. You act like God was intimate with Mary. That is not only disturbing, but insane on levels beyond electro-shock therapy. But if His flesh was that of Mary, He would had been born into sin and not a perfect sacrifice.


A WOMAN does not have a SEED, now we are including transvestites. Ever heard of biology? Open and read a book and get educated!!
 
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He was called the Son of Man because He came by design in the flesh to be a sacrifice. He had to be pure. You act like God was intimate with Mary. That is not only disturbing, but insane on levels beyond electro-shock therapy. But if His flesh was that of Mary, He would had been born into sin and not a perfect sacrifice.


A WOMAN does not have a SEED, now we are including transvestites. Ever heard of biology? Open and read a book and get educated!!
I never said nor implied that lie from your mouth pal....and a woman does not have seed...you must be stupid...read Genesis 3:15 pal and tell God a woman does not have seed.....hahahahha another moronic thing you have said hahaha wow man....and you claim belief......open a bible and get educated pal
 
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I never said nor implied that lie from your mouth pal....and a woman does not have seed...you must be stupid...read Genesis 3:15 pal and tell God a woman does not have seed.....hahahahha another moronic thing you have said hahaha wow man....and you claim belief......open a bible and get educated pal


An egg is produced by a woman and the SEED that fertilizes it comes only from a man.


זרע
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Translations of זֶרַע

noun
Frequency

sperm
זֶרַע, זֵרָעוֹן



seed
גַרעִין, זֶרַע, זֵרָעוֹן, צֶאֱצָאִים, עֵקֶר, מָקוֹר



semen
זֶרַע


This in Hebrew is referring to the seed that fertilizes. That is from a male.
 
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An egg is produced by a woman and the SEED that fertilizes it comes only from a man.


זרע
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Translations of זֶרַע

noun
Frequency

sperm
זֶרַע, זֵרָעוֹן



seed
גַרעִין, זֶרַע, זֵרָעוֹן, צֶאֱצָאִים, עֵקֶר, מָקוֹר



semen
זֶרַע


This in Hebrew is referring to the seed that fertilizes. That is from a male.
So what....God said seed OF THE WOMAN....not man or the Father....take it up with him pal!!
 
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You should go join a secular anti-biblical site because you peddle some deep do do man....So Genius...let us reason if you can.....the seed of the woman was in MARY....BABIES ARE CONNECTED BY THE UMBILICIAL CORD which SUPPLIES BLOOD, OXYGEN, NUTRIENTS TO THE DEVELOPING CHILD......ANYTHING THE MOTHER EATS, DRINKS AFFECTS THE CHILD BECAUSE THEY SHARE THE BLOOD.....

You guys should quit posting until you gain some knowledge....serious!!!!
"One of the placenta's jobs is to make sure blood from the mother and fetus never mixes."

Are you disagreeing with this point?

Where is the scripture that says Mary provided the blood for Jesus? You earlier claimed there were 2 examples.
 
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So what....God said seed OF THE WOMAN....not man or the Father....take it up with him pal!!


You are arguing from the view of hoping you have proper translation. There is no Hebrew word for SEED that refers to a woman's body in reproduction. That clearly is not properly translated (woman's seed).
 
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Translations of womb

רחם

noun
Frequency

רֶחֶם
womb, uterus, wench



אֵם
mother, matriarch, ancestress, womb, matriarch, dam


They clearly did not call a womb, seed, obvious bad KJV translation...
 

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From

https://biblehub.com/commentaries/gill/matthew/27.htm

"When he is said to be "forsaken" of God; the meaning is not, that the hypostatical union was dissolved, which was not even by death itself; the fulness of the Godhead still dwelt bodily in him: nor was he separated from the love of God; he had the same interest in his Father's heart and favour, both as his Son, and as mediator, as ever: nor was the principle and habit of joy and comfort lost in his soul, as man, but he was now without a sense of the gracious presence of God, and was filled, as the surety of his people, with a sense of divine wrath, which their iniquities he now bore, deserved, and which was necessary for him to endure, in order to make full satisfaction for them; for one part of the punishment of sin is loss of the divine presence.
Thanks for that Newton.. First time i have read it.. Of course i do not agree with it.. But thanks for the heads up.. :)
 

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As for the Blood..

Mary did not share Her blood with Jesus when he was developing in the womb.. Mother and child do not share the same blood. The mothers blood carries the oxygen and nutrients to the placenta. ... The babies blood travels up the umbilical cord to the placenta and carries the nutrients and oxygen back to the baby. One of the placenta's jobs is to make sure blood from the mother and fetus never mixes
 

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As for the Blood..

Mary did not share Her blood with Jesus when he was developing in the womb.. Mother and child do not share the same blood. The mothers blood carries the oxygen and nutrients to the placenta. ... The babies blood travels up the umbilical cord to the placenta and carries the nutrients and oxygen back to the baby. One of the placenta's jobs is to make sure blood from the mother and fetus never mixes
Well, in even THAT whole process Jesus had potential exposure to a woman who lived in a world of sin, but was divinely cloaked from that sin. As such, he kept away from those sins, but those same sins are more of a temptation to the rest of us.
 
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The Holy Spirit placed the seed of God, nothing to do with Mary, only to do with God 100% into the womb of Mary like a Doctor would a woman in the process of in vitro to those who cannot get pregnant.

Yeshua, did not receive a single strand of DNA from Mary at all.

He was sinless from word "GO."

He had to drink the CUP to become sin. Had He been born into sin, the CUP would be a waste of time!!

So, this theory of Yeshua being human with Mary's DNA, and born into sin as a sinner, is the dumbest revelation the Adversary has ever tried to pull!!
You need to go back to study biology again.
 
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He was called the Son of Man because He came by design in the flesh to be a sacrifice. He had to be pure. You act like God was intimate with Mary. That is not only disturbing, but insane on levels beyond electro-shock therapy. But if His flesh was that of Mary, He would had been born into sin and not a perfect sacrifice.


A WOMAN does not have a SEED, now we are including transvestites. Ever heard of biology? Open and read a book and get educated!!
:ROFL:

Dude, WHat school did you go to? Theiy failed you!!

A childs DNA comes from both the egg (seed) and the pollinator (sperm)

Mary Gave Jesus his physical Body.. The HS pollinated or completed the egg, so it was not TAINTED by the sin of ADAM.

Death comes through adam, Not the woman.
 

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The Holy Spirit placed the seed of God, nothing to do with Mary, only to do with God 100% into the womb of Mary like a Doctor would a woman in the process of in vitro to those who cannot get pregnant.

Yeshua, did not receive a single strand of DNA from Mary at all.
I actually believe that Jesus ( His body ) was 100% the creation of God.. That He did not have any DNA from Mary..
 
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You need to go back to study biology again.



The only way seed can be applied in context, is the use of the word offspring. Other than that, seed is known as what fertilizes. The egg cannot fertilize itself. God did not make it that way. He made it to where the egg of the woman needs to be fertilized by the seed of a man.

But, offspring, could be used as seed pertaining to woman. The reason why, is because it's the result of the MALE SEED exiting the womb. So offspring, could be viewed as seed result.

But biologically, clearly you do not understand that a woman's egg cannot fertilize itself. It takes a SEED to fertilize the egg.

In situation of Yeshua, the SEED was already in an egg, fertilized. And then placed into the womb of Mary. Nothing intimate took place here, but the intimacy of allowing God to use and control your life for His Purpose!!
 
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:ROFL:

Dude, WHat school did you go to? Theiy failed you!!

A childs DNA comes from both the egg (seed) and the pollinator (sperm)

Mary Gave Jesus his physical Body.. The HS pollinated or completed the egg, so it was not TAINTED by the sin of ADAM.

Death comes through adam, Not the woman.


The body that was needed for sacrifice was to be pure and Holy. Any resemblance of DNA from a sinner by nature would spiritually be passed onto offspring. And Yeshua, the SEED of God (but only the offspring of Mary) would biologically have no connection to a sin nature. This is why Yeshua had to drink the "Cup," because He was pure, sinless, Holy, the Temple of God from WORD Go!!

The crazy thoughts of God being intimate with Mary being understood as what took place, had to be a definite psychological disorder. It's even having you believe the Woman's egg can be a part of fertilization hahahaha It's the Catcher Bro, the Male pitches and the egg catches (or gets broken into and fertilizes the egg).

Technically, the egg is protecting itself from being fertilized. The SEED is designed to peck at the egg and create a spot it can swim through. From there, Life is formed.

To not understand the very basics of life, implies your views probably have been passed onto you as well :(
 
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"One of the placenta's jobs is to make sure blood from the mother and fetus never mixes."

Are you disagreeing with this point?

Where is the scripture that says Mary provided the blood for Jesus? You earlier claimed there were 2 examples.
You must not be able to understand English or cannot read...Quote me saying that I claimed there are two examples.....If you cannot understand what we write to the extent you make false claims I suggest you don't respond......
 
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You are arguing from the view of hoping you have proper translation. There is no Hebrew word for SEED that refers to a woman's body in reproduction. That clearly is not properly translated (woman's seed).
Your invalid and incorrect argument is with God....and that is the point of the virgin birth...the SIN NATURE comes from Adam....man....your theology must come from a cracker jack box
 
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Your invalid and incorrect argument is with God....and that is the point of the virgin birth...the SIN NATURE comes from Adam....man....your theology must come from a cracker jack box


I understand where it comes from. It's by knowing this sin nature only enters Yeshua when He drinks from the Cup, that reveals itself openly, that Mary was just an in vitro womb to enter this world from. No DNA whatsoever between Mary and Yeshua!!
 
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I understand where it comes from. It's by knowing this sin nature only enters Yeshua when He drinks from the Cup, that reveals itself openly, that Mary was just an in vitro womb to enter this world from. No DNA whatsoever between Mary and Yeshua!!
False....not true and deceptively Satanic