Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

...just false opinions.

Yeah, Whatever,

You can not even admit your wrong.

Take the log out..Or continue to just prove you are not one to be listened too

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Every time you see the word 'circumcise' that is about the old works of the law.

Actually circumcise was given to abraham, a little over 400 years before moses was even born

Next..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Notice that James heard of this faith alone doctrine, then he goes into deep explanation how it is wrong.

The purification works are the works of the law, but from the scriptures we see that people misunderstood Paul and thought it meant to have faith only and not obedience; so James explains it from the point of their misunderstanding.

Peter must have heard of the false beliefs too of faith alone. He says people misunderstand Paul, and then he warns us to obey.

See 2 Peter 3:16, 17, and all of 2 Peter 3.

James did not hear about a faith alone doctrine

He heard about a CLAIMED faith doctrine, also known as mere belief, And later termed licentiousness

Wow man, You need to go to church and start to learn some things.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Circumcision was the sign of the purification works of the law. Gentiles were called unclean for a reason.

Where is the word Law

You said law

Circumcision was given to abraham outside the law..

Either back what you claimed, or admit you were wrong.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We have to eat his words. We can't eat his words by any other way than by obeying his words.

Lol

You have it backwards man

You eat. Then the food is processed. Then the work is started

You do not work forst..

Again, Where do you come up with this stuff?

 

[dcontroversal]

So you're reformed in your theology?
I doubt it though....reformed persons are very big on doing good deeds....

More drivel and assumptions....you do not know me or my life...unlike You I boast in Jesus and not the things I do in his name....but of course one that helps a weak jesus not in the bible must boast of what they do in his name.....just like the MANY.....good luck with that

 

[dcontroversal]

I love when they have nicks, Like your truth, or Gods truth or things like that, Yet they have anything but truth.. I wonder if they make up these names to help convince themselves they are right?

The epitome of delusional....and deceived......

 

[dcontroversal]

Lol

You have it backwards man

You eat. Then the food is processed. Then the work is started

You do not work forst..

Again, Where do you come up with this stuff?

a. False religion
b. Skewed truth
c. Twisted and embellished truth
d. Denial of truth
e. All of the above

 

[dcontroversal]

yes, we do have a problem with language.

the words " believe " and " obey " are not the same, even though fran and some others think so.

the definition of sin is missing the mark, falling short of a standard, knowing to do good and not doing so, whatever is not of faith is sin.


followhissteps ( not sure who he is following, not Jesus) does not recognize the definition of sin, though he lectures about it constantly.

we certainly do have a language and definition problem.
because the self-righteous and self saviors have to bend and twist and deny so they can prop up their self delusions of having to do their part to help God save them.

One reason the resident Catholic rejects the Greek......

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Could it be that they want their works to count SO BAD, that they are willing to ROB GOD of the GLORY THAT BELONGS TO HIM.

Well, even the ones in Matthew 7:22 (of whom Jesus will say, "I *NEVER* KNEW you") will say, "...HAVEN'T *WE* DONE... MANY WONDERFUL WORKS…" [and even "in thy name" done them!] ...(that was their focus, though being "not-saved persons")

 

[dcontroversal]

God HAS TOO?

Wow man, WHO made you God

God has to CONDEMN us, because that is what we have EARNED!!

God does not owe you anything my friend.. You need to come down from your high horse.

I really liked the statement about JESUS Has to accept us.......talk about a lack of biblical knowledge.....

 

[dcontroversal]

I think you are quite understandable..
You think you have to EARN eternal life. Thats all we need to know

Amen.....plain as day<--the error he peddles

 

[UnderGrace]

More drivel and assumptions....you do not know me or my life...unlike You I boast in Jesus and not the things I do in his name....but of course one that helps a weak jesus not in the bible must boast of what they do in his name.....just like the MANY.....good luck with that

I really, really, really do not like it when Jesus is made into a weak Saviour by promoting their self effort to earn salvation.......my all time trigger!!!

Some make Jesus a cruel task master, another trigger....they never quote this verse though.....

Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”…
Matthew 11:29

 

[dcontroversal]

Well, even the ones in Matthew 7:22 (of whom Jesus will say, "I *NEVER* KNEW you") will say, "...HAVEN'T *WE* DONE... MANY WONDERFUL WORKS…" [and even "in thy name" done them!] ...(that was their focus, though being "not-saved persons")

their root was corrupt....their root being a blend of faith and works for as evidenced by thier own words....

Lord Lord <--belief Jesus is Lord
Have we not done<---the elements of works

together -->faith plus works for <---Galatians hammers this and at least 3 to 5 in this very thread peddle this view daily......

 

[dcontroversal]

I really, really, really do not like it when Jesus is made into a weak Saviour by promoting their self effort to earn salvation.......my all time trigger!!!

Some make Jesus a cruel task master, another trigger....they never quote this verse though.....

Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”…
Matthew 11:29

Oh I know......I despise the crap they peddle ...

 

[dcontroversal]

Hey Bro!! Be carefull, they are launching rockets now!!

Hahaha and false truth bombs

 

[dcontroversal]

Lol. Another one who peddles works and refuses to give his denomination.

Lol. How can we have faith in you if you can not even be honest?

I know......funny how almost ALL PEDDLERS of a works based false losable self sustained dogma refuse to say who they associate with.....they are actually ashamed to admit who they associate with....speaks volumes

 

[dcontroversal]

Paul does not say boast according to the law

Your adding to the word of God.

Shame on you

All workers for, salvation losers and self savers either add to, twist, take away from, embellish or reject the truth regularly.......just like in the Garden...add a word here or there or maybe take a word or two out....

 

[dcontroversal]

Did you forget that you were going against me for preaching obedience to Christ?

Nice try to lift yourself up....we go against you because you peddle a false dogma like a street organ player in Calcutta with a dancing monkey for coin.....get your facts straight

 

[dcontroversal]

Jesus taught a lot of rules and regulations.
When one is saved, they have them written on their heart and mind.

Jesus died/resurrected and ratified a NEW COVENANT of GRACE...your cafe blend of the two falls short of truth