Christian’s days compared to Jewish days

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Blik

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A day in the life of a Christian varies from man to man, but a Jew’s day is set to a formula. Christians say formulas are wooden and finally result in life without meaning, and Jews feel they set up life’s meaning. Who is right?

A Jewish day begins with a set prayer that gives thanks for restoring the soul, then the Jew washes his hands saying a set prayer acknowledging God as master of the universe who commanded him to wash his hands. Then the Jew gives a set prayer, usually the Amidah that is the prayer Christ gave us, only a longer version. Usually a Jew then includes some scripture study before he goes off to work.
Faithful Jews have special prayer time three times a day as Daniel did.


A faithful Jew doesn’t think of any part of his life, whether eating, waking, or working as being apart from God. They don’t think of this as a work, nor of God as without grace, but as an understanding that they are created by God and belong to Him. We have the added blessing of understanding Christ died for us, but most of us never think of ourselves as nothing apart from God so owe everything to Him.

Is the Jewish structure of days a good thing?
 

JaumeJ

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A day in the life of a Christian varies from man to man, but a Jew’s day is set to a formula. Christians say formulas are wooden and finally result in life without meaning, and Jews feel they set up life’s meaning. Who is right?

A Jewish day begins with a set prayer that gives thanks for restoring the soul, then the Jew washes his hands saying a set prayer acknowledging God as master of the universe who commanded him to wash his hands. Then the Jew gives a set prayer, usually the Amidah that is the prayer Christ gave us, only a longer version. Usually a Jew then includes some scripture study before he goes off to work.
Faithful Jews have special prayer time three times a day as Daniel did.


A faithful Jew doesn’t think of any part of his life, whether eating, waking, or working as being apart from God. They don’t think of this as a work, nor of God as without grace, but as an understanding that they are created by God and belong to Him. We have the added blessing of understanding Christ died for us, but most of us never think of ourselves as nothing apart from God so owe everything to Him.

Is the Jewish structure of days a good thing?

Whatever is done with a clear concience in the sight of our Father is not sin. My own faith has me doing what I am led to do daiy, and in many waqys as you have shared here. I think of Daniel a lot in my faith-life, but , of course our supreme Model is Jesus, Yehsua. As for three times a day of prayer, it seems we all are praying much of the time with our more formal times throughout the day.

God bless you always….j
 

Dino246

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Having rejected Jesus as the Messiah, the Jews are merely religious. Their discipline is admirable, but I would rather have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ than a religion of works.
 

JaumeJ

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Beware of those who say they are jews but are not.
 

Hevosmies

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First of all many of the things modern Jews do are NOT biblical. They are just vain traditions, like putting the right foot in the shoe first etc. Useless stuff

Second, we are NOT under the law, so we are not OBLIGATED to do a rigid daily schedule of rituals.

Christian's day comprises of praying to the living God, thanking Jesus. Christ rejecting Jew's day comprises of speaking to the wind, nobody is listening. He who doesnt have the Son, doesnt have the Father either!
 

Blik

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First of all many of the things modern Jews do are NOT biblical. They are just vain traditions, like putting the right foot in the shoe first etc. Useless stuff

Second, we are NOT under the law, so we are not OBLIGATED to do a rigid daily schedule of rituals.

Christian's day comprises of praying to the living God, thanking Jesus. Christ rejecting Jew's day comprises of speaking to the wind, nobody is listening. He who doesnt have the Son, doesnt have the Father either!
What do you think God meant when God told us to obey, Christ said if you love me you will obey, and then God turns all around to say we aren't under the law? If we can't trust God to tell it straight, who can we trust?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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What do you think God meant when God told us to obey, Christ said if you love me you will obey, and then God turns all around to say we aren't under the law? If we can't trust God to tell it straight, who can we trust?

what do you think God meant by

So the Lord God said to the serpent: “Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; on your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust all the days of your life. And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.” (Genesis 3:14–15)

what do you think the Bible means when it says

all have fallen short of the glory of God? and that includes all who obey doesn't' it? I mean all is all, doesn't it?

613 obey this or elses'....I'm not sure a 24 hr day is enough

if we can't trust God to provide salvation since we cannot earn it, then who can we trust?
 

Hevosmies

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What do you think God meant when God told us to obey, Christ said if you love me you will obey, and then God turns all around to say we aren't under the law? If we can't trust God to tell it straight, who can we trust?
We can trust God.

But we are not under the law of Moses. If you want to go back to the mosaic law, dont keep it half-way like many of the hebrew roots posers do. Go build a temple, start the animal sacrifices, do all the sabbath related commandments and washings. Gather the levites
 

Blik

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So the conclusion of today's church is that making God part of everything we do every day is work for the Lord and the Lord is solidly against this kind of work. It will not save, therefore it would do nothing to make our lives happier or better. Does that sum up the opinions of all?
 

Dino246

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So the conclusion of today's church is that making God part of everything we do every day is work for the Lord and the Lord is solidly against this kind of work. It will not save, therefore it would do nothing to make our lives happier or better. Does that sum up the opinions of all?
No. Not even close. You have a nasty habit of twisting what others write. You clearly are operating under an agenda to sow confusion and corruption, even if you don't see it.
 

Blik

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Only 2% of the population of America is Jewish, yet they have achieved highest in every category from the entertainment world, financial world, art world, to the professional world. They even make up 54% of chess champions.

There are many books today about the Jewish code they live by, trying to explain their success. Even though most agree that a large number of them are completely secular, they have years of culture that did its best to learn God's ways and live by those ways. They say this is the reason for their success.

We know that works will not save us, but scripture tells us there are blessings we can have in this life for obedience. It seems to me very worthwhile to learn how God plans for our world to work best and live in harmony with that plan.

We know that God controls our universe, even our nations. It does not seem to me a bad plan to put God as part of our minute by minute lives.
 

JaumeJ

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I am not a Jew by birth but by rebirth in Jesus Yeshua. Not being wealthy by ay means, I have passed up the obvious opportunites t be so in my time by simply refusing to followthe courses they offered. Now I have somehow, regardless of aall, made it to retirement. No, I am notsecure in wealth, but I feel secudre in faith. As for successful individuals of any ilk, I hav discovered so much revisionism of history, that it is very difficult to be impressed by the success of men, be they Jew, Donald Trump ore if it ever were the case even with myself.

Look at the figures for non-Jews in the rich and powerful arena, and it is crtain you will be impressed ty them too.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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the only Jews are the ones who actually are Jewish

there is none of that confusion in Christ

for that matter, He does not even segregate us into male and female but says we are all ONE in Him

Amen!
 

JaumeJ

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Read the description of a true Jew given by Paul, in Romans…….

Never overlook Jesus, Yeshua, was of Judah, in tht regaqrd aJew. He ismy KING He is King of the Jews.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Read the description of a true Jew given by Paul, in Romans…….

and ignore the fact of us being neither Jew nor Gentile nor male nor female in Christ?

come on...reconcile scripture and don't quote out of context

one scripture does not cancel out another. understand context in what is being said

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, (Gentile)there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3


Abraham's' seed means those who BELIEVE...as his faith was accounted to him as righteousness

not gonna argue with you. just refer to scripture. it's all there

half the debates on this forum would be settled if folks would just learn to study properly
 

JaumeJ

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Jesus would have ben called Salvation iof Yah. Yah is the wordi within Juday which is the name of God , Yah hoo dah…….....Yah for Yahweh.ñ


eah,upon having given birth to a male child proclaimed, now I will praise God ........so she named him Judah, one who praises Yah, GodThe true Jew is any who believe Jesus and praqise God because of His salvtion given to us free with no strings. We are made sons of Abraqham b Him, according to His teaching.
If you praise God because of Jesus you are being a true Jew in the traqnslation. There is no confusion here unless you desire confusion. He is my King and Abraham spiritually, is my Father, find out what Abraham means. Honored Father of NaTIONS.
 

Blik

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and ignore the fact of us being neither Jew nor Gentile nor male nor female in Christ?

come on...reconcile scripture and don't quote out of context

one scripture does not cancel out another. understand context in what is being said

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, (Gentile)there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3

Abraham's' seed means those who BELIEVE...as his faith was accounted to him as righteousness

not gonna argue with you. just refer to scripture. it's all there

half the debates on this forum would be settled if folks would just learn to study properly
Couldn't you ignore the Jew gentile fight? what would you call it? and think about the idea of all copying the Jewish idea of making God part of everything in our life? It so happens that is a Jewish way, but think of it as just a way of living as God's people. Forget it is Jewish, except there are parts of their culture that has used this idea. We know they don't recognize Christ, scripture tells us about it, but couldn't you get past this to isolate the idea of living in a way that makes God part of each thing we do minute by minute?

As I explored this idea I had to go back to middle ages Jews, they have progressively gone from this idea ever since. It is still in their culture if not their religion and I think it is the reason they are such great successes in this world. I think God blesses obedience in our lives here. Our eternal blessing is such a wonder, has such beauty, but this post is about worldly blessing and being Jewish is incidental.
 

JaumeJ

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Beware of those who say they are Jews but are not, rther they arfe a synagogue of Satan. I do not belong to this faction of the denominations of this age.

My faith can only be the faith of Abraham, as given by Jesus Christ………..
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Couldn't you ignore the Jew gentile fight? what would you call it? and think about the idea of all copying the Jewish idea of making God part of everything in our life? It so happens that is a Jewish way, but think of it as just a way of living as God's people. Forget it is Jewish, except there are parts of their culture that has used this idea. We know they don't recognize Christ, scripture tells us about it, but couldn't you get past this to isolate the idea of living in a way that makes God part of each thing we do minute by minute?

As I explored this idea I had to go back to middle ages Jews, they have progressively gone from this idea ever since. It is still in their culture if not their religion and I think it is the reason they are such great successes in this world. I think God blesses obedience in our lives here. Our eternal blessing is such a wonder, has such beauty, but this post is about worldly blessing and being Jewish is incidental.

well it appears to be au courant right in this thread

again, you dodge actually responding to the post

you dodge applying a response to the scripture posted

ps...what you call a fight, was Paul being clear on God's directive. maybe pay attention to it

you dodge the concept presented by that scripture

and do all that by trying to 'talk down' and making it seem you are above any direct responsibility with regards to your teaching on the OT which is not biblical

I'm not Jewish and nothing I said indicates a discussion on their culture

the Jewish culture still evolves around a good debate, and plenty of conjecture, but how does that excuse your lack of response to the scriptures?

you refuse to directly respond to scripture and use smoke and mirrors as some sort of illusion that you know better than others here, who consistently attempt to direct you to what the Bible actually says

your suave accusatory manner has not gone unnoticed. you basically make your own trouble and then complain about it