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UnderGrace

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In the 2014 interview, CDC’s Dr. Frank DeStefano, also acknowledged that vaccines may trigger autism in a certain subset of children and stated that it might make sense to study to identify the children and the conditions that make them vulnerable. However, no such studies were initiated.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/pds.613
 
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i want to know whats wrong with the immune systems the Heavenly Father designed for us. these vaccines IMO is like the tower of babel, its mankind thinking we can improve the Lords creation.
i think some vaccines are ok, but today we are overdoing it. its like everything else in history, mankind takes a good idea and always always always pushes it to far.
 
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i want to know whats wrong with the immune systems the Heavenly Father designed for us. these vaccines IMO is like the tower of babel, its mankind thinking we can improve the Lords creation.
i think some vaccines are ok, but today we are overdoing it. its like everything else in history, mankind takes a good idea and always always always pushes it to far.

Exactly
 

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i want to know whats wrong with the immune systems the Heavenly Father designed for us. these vaccines IMO is like the tower of babel, its mankind thinking we can improve the Lords creation.
i think some vaccines are ok, but today we are overdoing it. its like everything else in history, mankind takes a good idea and always always always pushes it to far.
If you look through the Bible you will see a bit of correlation to disease and sin including the exclusion of incestuous relationships and the very significant drop in life expectancy. More sin more disease
 
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Cytokine Imbalance after Measles Virus Infection Has No Correlation with Immune Suppression

https://jvi.asm.org/content/83/14/7244
Well Mr. NotSoGoodTry
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.....I am sure you did not read the article ....but my article was cited 17 time and yours is older and cited only 9, so my article has stronger support via the research community and yours is done by a group probably funded by big pharma.....and I am sure if I wanted to take the time to research it I could find the money trail.

Anyway so now you support big business????
 
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1) Vaccines contain many chemicals and heavy metals, like mercury and aluminum, which are in-themselves immuno-suppressing. Mercury actually causes changes in the lymphocyte activity and decreases lymphocyte viability.

2) Vaccines contain foreign tissues and foreign DNA/RNA which act to suppress the immune system via graft-vs-host rejection phenomena.

3) Vaccines alter our t-cell helper/suppressor ratios ... just like those seen with AIDS. This ratio is a key indicator of a proper functioning immune system.

4) Vaccines alter the metabolic activity of PMNs and reduce their chemotaxic abilities. PMNs are our body’s defenses against pathogenic bacteria and viruses.

5) Vaccines suppress our immunity merely buy over-taxing our immune system with foreign material, heavy metals, pathogens and viruses. The heavy metals slow down our immune system, while the viruses set up shop to grow and divide. It is like being chained and handcuffed before swimming.

6) Vaccines clog our lymphatic system and lymph nodes with large protein molecules which have not been adequately broken down by our digestive processes, since vaccines by pass digestion with injections. This is why vaccines are linked to allergies, because they contain large proteins which as circulating immune complexes (CICs) or "klinkers" which cause our body to become allergic.

7) Vaccines deplete our body of vital immune-enhancing nutrients, like vitamin C, A and zinc, which are needed for a strong immune system. It is nutrients like these that primes our immune system, feeds the white blood cells and macrophages and allows them to function optimally.

8) Vaccines are neurotoxic and slow the level of nervous transmission, and communications to the brain and other tissues. Now we know that some lymphocytes communicate directly with the brain through a complex set of neurotransmitters. Altering these factors will also depress our immunity.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11756976&dopt=Abstract

Depressing our immune system is the real problem now, we are so dependent on vaccines, just where big pharma wants us.

Not to mention many of these vaccines have fetal cells in them from aborted babies.
are you against all vax or just some of them? i think some are helpful, polio and tb were really bad epidemics. but some of these vax are for illnesses that you will never in a million years get.
i say i am ok with them but am also skeptical of all of them based on the fact they have parts of animals and other humans in them. im not a big fan of mixing these things with my blood. i think it was things like this going on in the pre flood world.
 

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The viruses are further cultured in a broth made using salt, vitamins, amino acids and a little bit of serum — the liquid part of blood — from a calf fetus. Sugars and a human blood component called albumin are mixed in, as well as neomycin, an antibiotic used because it rarely triggers allergies. It helps keep stray germs from growing in the vaccine. Gelatin is mixed in as a stabilizer.

“Each dose of the vaccine is calculated to contain sorbitol (14.5 mg), sodium phosphate, sucrose (1.9 mg), sodium chloride, hydrolyzed gelatin (14.5 mg), recombinant human albumin (≤0.3 mg), fetal bovine serum (less than one part per million), other buffer and media ingredients and approximately 25 micrograms of neomycin. The product contains no preservative,” the package insert reads.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/measles-outbreak/whats-measles-vaccine-n301891
 
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are you against all vax or just some of them? i think some are helpful, polio and tb were really bad epidemics. but some of these vax are for illnesses that you will never in a million years get.
i say i am ok with them but am also skeptical of all of them based on the fact they have parts of animals and other humans in them. im not a big fan of mixing these things with my blood. i think it was things like this going on in the pre flood world.
I think we all need to do our research.

Big pharma suppresses evidence and autism is approaching 1 in 50, this is a sheer tragedy.
One would have to be blind to not see something is happening.

Dr. Zimmerman has publicly stated that in certain subsets MMR vaccine can cause autism in children.

It needs to be investigated, yet how can this be done without big companies having to admit culpability for the travesty that is been inflicted on innocent children.

We have natural immunity to polio, polio was a problem because people did not understand how it was transmitted and how to build natural immunity to it.

Suffice it to say it is another mess.

I myself no longer take any vaccines.
 

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are you against all vax or just some of them? i think some are helpful, polio and tb were really bad epidemics. but some of these vax are for illnesses that you will never in a million years get.
i say i am ok with them but am also skeptical of all of them based on the fact they have parts of animals and other humans in them. im not a big fan of mixing these things with my blood. i think it was things like this going on in the pre flood world.
I understand that concern. I would rather not have had multiple heart surgeries but I would have died if not. Thankfully I am being weened off of meds unfortunately Ive taken many antidepressants in the past and being stopped abruptly has had very bad side effects on my cognitive abilities. Oversleeping forgetfulness extremely large increase in anxiety. If you can do without meds of any kind id implore anyone too.
 

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.....I am sure you did not read the article ....but my article was cited 17 time and yours is older and cited only 9, so my article has stronger support via the research community and yours is done by a group probably funded by big pharma.....and I am sure if I wanted to take the time to research it I could find the money trail.
Neither did you laff.gif

Let me check in me Merck manual.
 

Locutus

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No, not seen the YT vid.
 

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I should mention I had the pneumococcus vaccine in 2015. This is the healthiest I have been in my whole life. I did get sick this year, but I would imagine it was not strep or staph. But, I recover so much more quickly, too. I first got pneumonia as a baby. I had an aunt die in childhood on each side of my family from pneumonia. So, something inherited. Except they died, I got the antibiotics (many times) and I am a senior citizen.

My husband has had the pneumococcus vaccine, almost every 5 years since the early 1990's. He has no spleen. Before the vaccine he almost died of a staph a few times. In Edmonton, we forgot to renew his vaccine and in 2008 we were told he was going to die before morning, he had such a bad Strep infection. He was in the ICU for 8 days, had to miss our son's wedding. it was only when they figured out it was staph, he was put on penicillin and finally improved. Alberta seemed to think he only needed the vaccine once. When we returned to BC in 2015, he got a booster shot. For sure, he would be dead by now, without the vaccine!

I am so grateful that I am alive at 65 because of vaccines and modern medicine, instead of dead like my two aunts I never met.