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Hey, look, I can pretty much guarantee I am probably the most disobedient Christian on this thread. I say that lacking all sarcasm.
like I've mentioned before, (one day I will take the time to rewrite my testimony) I used to hate people avid in congregations, and people of the "cloth". I took pride in mocking them and threatening then with violence.
i never cared enough to believe to want to get on my knees and ask some stupid entity into my life that the weak need to have in their life because they need an eternal destiny because they're scared of death and need a place for their loved ones to be okay when they die.
That was me. Denying the existence of God right up to the point he knocked me off my high horse. And you wanna know something, when God took my spirit to somewhere in eternity, I didn't believe, but only doubted my unbelief. I was filled with the Holy Spirit the next morning (about 6 hrs later) and didn't even know what to label the strange occurrence until he instantaneously opened my eye's and heart to his love and righteousness. I, by the will of God had such a burning desire to know the truth that I studied mostly the new testament for 20 plus hours a day for nearly a year.
i stayed away from every spiritual book and any Bible with commentary. To this day I only use the KJV reference Bible. I only have and will always compare scripture with scripture.
in the beginning I immediately acquired a Strongest Strongs concordance.
All:s I did was study, study, study (for I was in prison)
The more I studied, the more I was getting confused on certain important issues concerning salvation.
i opened a Facebook account in Fall of 2010 and only posted scripture for fear I may thwart the truth in the word of God....So I continued studying in his drawing grace. Liberally, if I didn't study, woe was me.
The more I studied and used the wisdom given to me, just like EVERYTHING pertaining to my salvation was imputed without my desire. Imputed but not imposed because it's the best thing that will ever happen to me.
On a good close guess, I have roughly 15,000 hours studying to show myself approved and to be able to part my lips and state what the spirit has revealed to me.
i am unwavering and solid in OSAS. I believe good works are sprung from walking in the Spirit. They are not necessarily physical tasks. When I was first lit on fire in prison I . mentioned to a good friend I wanted to get out and tell the whole world about Christ. He said something that still makes perfect sense. He said"Yea, and you might even have to open your mouth" it's not for us to run around conjuring good deeds to display our faith and love towards God, when what we do is only as whole and true by the ones receiving the output of our attempts. God will open the eye's and heart of those whom he chooses to.
Don't get me wrong, it's a wonderful thing to do something out of love and appreciation to God, but if your conjuring good deeds out of necessity you will not be able to complete and wholely do it in entire love.
i have my personal beliefs that I am complete and comfortable with. I don't pray hardly at all because I don't do ritualistic month service, but when I do relent it's genuine drawing of the spirit to do so and as given once again by God, k I am humbled, appreciative, thankful for the fact that I can not but God can . make it possible to obtain his righteousness.
Ye hypocrite, ye hypocrite, ye hypocrite... countless times he said this. He also said to forgive your brother countless times. I don't think he's going for the title of hypocrite, sitting next to daddy and biting his nails that we will sin too much or not have enough good works to show what, that he was weak and unable to fulfill the will of the father? Step aside Jesus...I got this. Do you realize how silly that sounds?
it is GOD AND GOD ONLY WHO JUSTIFIES AND CONDEMNS, and there are no personal contingencies except you have faith...which...he gives.
So, this is me and my beliefs (except I don't have faith...by the grace and will of God...I KNOW!!!
PEce to you all. The peace only the truth can allow.
like I've mentioned before, (one day I will take the time to rewrite my testimony) I used to hate people avid in congregations, and people of the "cloth". I took pride in mocking them and threatening then with violence.
i never cared enough to believe to want to get on my knees and ask some stupid entity into my life that the weak need to have in their life because they need an eternal destiny because they're scared of death and need a place for their loved ones to be okay when they die.
That was me. Denying the existence of God right up to the point he knocked me off my high horse. And you wanna know something, when God took my spirit to somewhere in eternity, I didn't believe, but only doubted my unbelief. I was filled with the Holy Spirit the next morning (about 6 hrs later) and didn't even know what to label the strange occurrence until he instantaneously opened my eye's and heart to his love and righteousness. I, by the will of God had such a burning desire to know the truth that I studied mostly the new testament for 20 plus hours a day for nearly a year.
i stayed away from every spiritual book and any Bible with commentary. To this day I only use the KJV reference Bible. I only have and will always compare scripture with scripture.
in the beginning I immediately acquired a Strongest Strongs concordance.
All:s I did was study, study, study (for I was in prison)
The more I studied, the more I was getting confused on certain important issues concerning salvation.
i opened a Facebook account in Fall of 2010 and only posted scripture for fear I may thwart the truth in the word of God....So I continued studying in his drawing grace. Liberally, if I didn't study, woe was me.
The more I studied and used the wisdom given to me, just like EVERYTHING pertaining to my salvation was imputed without my desire. Imputed but not imposed because it's the best thing that will ever happen to me.
On a good close guess, I have roughly 15,000 hours studying to show myself approved and to be able to part my lips and state what the spirit has revealed to me.
i am unwavering and solid in OSAS. I believe good works are sprung from walking in the Spirit. They are not necessarily physical tasks. When I was first lit on fire in prison I . mentioned to a good friend I wanted to get out and tell the whole world about Christ. He said something that still makes perfect sense. He said"Yea, and you might even have to open your mouth" it's not for us to run around conjuring good deeds to display our faith and love towards God, when what we do is only as whole and true by the ones receiving the output of our attempts. God will open the eye's and heart of those whom he chooses to.
Don't get me wrong, it's a wonderful thing to do something out of love and appreciation to God, but if your conjuring good deeds out of necessity you will not be able to complete and wholely do it in entire love.
i have my personal beliefs that I am complete and comfortable with. I don't pray hardly at all because I don't do ritualistic month service, but when I do relent it's genuine drawing of the spirit to do so and as given once again by God, k I am humbled, appreciative, thankful for the fact that I can not but God can . make it possible to obtain his righteousness.
Ye hypocrite, ye hypocrite, ye hypocrite... countless times he said this. He also said to forgive your brother countless times. I don't think he's going for the title of hypocrite, sitting next to daddy and biting his nails that we will sin too much or not have enough good works to show what, that he was weak and unable to fulfill the will of the father? Step aside Jesus...I got this. Do you realize how silly that sounds?
it is GOD AND GOD ONLY WHO JUSTIFIES AND CONDEMNS, and there are no personal contingencies except you have faith...which...he gives.
So, this is me and my beliefs (except I don't have faith...by the grace and will of God...I KNOW!!!
PEce to you all. The peace only the truth can allow.
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when you say someone HAS to sin everyday, or they MUST sin everyday.......that doesn't leave much of an option.
God plainly said (i have quoted several times) that "with every temptation he will provide an escape"
why now instead of asking, like i was earlier, "WHAT SINS DO I COMMIT EVERYDAY?"
The question should be "when tempted, what sins do you refuse to take God's escape route?"
BTW: I thought it funny when you said the following "no option? When did we say this. You like tryng to tell us what we are saying don’t you?"
by the end of your post your telling me what i'm thinking.........kinda funny how we humans are. LoL
i'm sure i've done the same thing as well
"Again, your thinking of overt sins, we are not thinking of overt sins, thats why you can not comprehend what we are saying "
God plainly said (i have quoted several times) that "with every temptation he will provide an escape"
why now instead of asking, like i was earlier, "WHAT SINS DO I COMMIT EVERYDAY?"
The question should be "when tempted, what sins do you refuse to take God's escape route?"
BTW: I thought it funny when you said the following "no option? When did we say this. You like tryng to tell us what we are saying don’t you?"
by the end of your post your telling me what i'm thinking.........kinda funny how we humans are. LoL
i'm sure i've done the same thing as well
"Again, your thinking of overt sins, we are not thinking of overt sins, thats why you can not comprehend what we are saying "
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Hi 50,,,,the above sounds like a testimony to me....
God reveals Himself and we accept Him.
This is good.
Your friend in prison however,,,did not make up that saying about going our and preaching.
If I remember right,,, St. Francis said it or maybe St. Augustine....
He said:
Always preach and only when absolutely necessary, use words.
We preach with our lives.
We witness with our lives.
We honor God with our lives.
Let all know you serve God, so that when you do good, they'll know you're doing it for God.
(and maybe they'll believe in His existence).
God reveals Himself and we accept Him.
This is good.
Your friend in prison however,,,did not make up that saying about going our and preaching.
If I remember right,,, St. Francis said it or maybe St. Augustine....
He said:
Always preach and only when absolutely necessary, use words.
We preach with our lives.
We witness with our lives.
We honor God with our lives.
Let all know you serve God, so that when you do good, they'll know you're doing it for God.
(and maybe they'll believe in His existence).
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Oh the red words are the words of Jesus.
Well I never
It makes no difference whether it be red or black.
Believers will know the words of Jesus.
It's called punctuation.
Even non believers who read the Bible know that.
Condescending indeed.
Well I never
It makes no difference whether it be red or black.
Believers will know the words of Jesus.
It's called punctuation.
Even non believers who read the Bible know that.
Condescending indeed.
@NoNameMcgee has a real problem with the parable of the Prodigal Son.
I tried to speak to him about it myself, but gave up.
Now the new member @Godandguns is trying, but I fear he'll just have to give up.
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in luke 15... the sinners and tax collectors are the ones who gathered to listen to Jesus... the pharisees who refuse to admit their sin
start murmuring against Jesus
in their culture to sit and eat with people is the same as accepting who they are as "good" or "acceptable"
these pharisees who are decieved and do not see the sin in themself
have no clue who God is despite their many years of study
Jesus speaks and shows them their lack of knowledge
to inform them about how much God values us
He is not anti- evangelical
like the pharisee
lol
you suffer from a bad case of fractal wrongness...
where youre so wrong about every little thing all your conclusions you form in that head of yours built on falsehoods only make your beliefs more and more false as you continue in them....
little miss "salvation is earned"
start murmuring against Jesus
in their culture to sit and eat with people is the same as accepting who they are as "good" or "acceptable"
these pharisees who are decieved and do not see the sin in themself
have no clue who God is despite their many years of study
Jesus speaks and shows them their lack of knowledge
to inform them about how much God values us
He is not anti- evangelical
like the pharisee
lol
you suffer from a bad case of fractal wrongness...
where youre so wrong about every little thing all your conclusions you form in that head of yours built on falsehoods only make your beliefs more and more false as you continue in them....
little miss "salvation is earned"
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Oh the red words are the words of Jesus.
Well I never
It makes no difference whether it be red or black.
Believers will know the words of Jesus.
It's called punctuation.
Even non believers who read the Bible know that.
Condescending indeed.
Well I never
It makes no difference whether it be red or black.
Believers will know the words of Jesus.
It's called punctuation.
Even non believers who read the Bible know that.
Condescending indeed.
i wasn't attacking nobody's punctuation.........
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and i am also sorry if my choice of words was confusing....
Jesus did indeed say those words
but i only meant to point at the fact it is part of the parable and the father of the son who claimed he was dead when he was not....
(but i forgive you 100% ... i was not upset in the slightest)
Jesus did indeed say those words
but i only meant to point at the fact it is part of the parable and the father of the son who claimed he was dead when he was not....
(but i forgive you 100% ... i was not upset in the slightest)
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please notice the word "dead" in Luke 15
Luke 15:24 (KJV)
24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
Greek Strong's Number: 3498
Greek Word: νεκρός
Transliteration: nekros
Phonetic Pronunciation:
nek-ros'
Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary.
Ephesians 2:1 (KJV)
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Ephesians 2:5 (KJV)
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Colossians 2:13 (KJV)
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
it is the same word used in every one of these passages as well
Luke 15:24 (KJV)
24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
Greek Strong's Number: 3498
Greek Word: νεκρός
Transliteration: nekros
Phonetic Pronunciation:
Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary.
Ephesians 2:1 (KJV)
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Ephesians 2:5 (KJV)
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Colossians 2:13 (KJV)
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
it is the same word used in every one of these passages as well
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@Godandguns my apologies i work many hours and just got scolded for being on my phone
i need to go for awhile
i will respond as quickly as i am able
i need to go for awhile
i will respond as quickly as i am able
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