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Salvation Losers!!!!! LOL. You have a way with words

I'm saying if a man has no DESIRE to OBEY God, that man isn't born again

I agree we grow in grace etc..

A man can believe he is saved and certainly not be saved.......the devil's believe and tremble
YEP....a BELIEF in GOD, which the JEWS have to this day is NOT saving faith...........same thing the devils believe....IN GOD, they know he is real............
 

gb9

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Salvation Losers!!!!! LOL. You have a way with words

I'm saying if a man has no DESIRE to OBEY God, that man isn't born again

I agree we grow in grace etc..

A man can believe he is saved and certainly not be saved.......the devil's believe and tremble
nice. show up, start calling folks losers...

show where any are saying no desire to obey God, yet still saved.
 
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go through and find one post where " no desire to obey God and still be saved" is stated as a truth. then point it out.
I never said it was stated as a truth. I was responding to a question asked of me.

I assume you agree then, if no desire to obey God......not born again???
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Why are we as Christians contantly attacked by our advasary if he thought we could never turn our back on God and be lost?

What is he trying to get us to do?

Do you think our advasary Satan knows what the Bible says?
He is trying to tear us down and take us out of the war. An enemy wishes to take the fight out of the soldier, by hurting him physically so he can not fight, or emotionally so he has no fight in him, (fear is his greatest weapon) because if he does it, he can defeat him, and the soldier is no longer a threat. But the solder is still a member of the same army, he did not stop being a member,
It is now up to that solders comrads with the help of the supreme commander to help heal him so he can get back in the battle, but not everyone will make it back


We are in a war, satan wants to take us out, it does not take us out of gods family. Just makes us useless in the war, until we are restored, and just like the enemy nation, fear is satans greatest weapon, he is no dummy, and people you claim salvation can be lost, they are his greatest soldiers. Because all you have to offer is fear, not hope,
 
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If you have no desire to OBEY God you're not saved.......will God lie and say enter in thou good and faithful servant if you haven't been good and faithful? I think not

And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Acts 5:32 KJV
Who has no desire? But the world, thats why john said whoever sins has never seen god or known him
They did not lose salvation, they never had it,
 

BillG

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I answered your question.


My answer was “because we love the Lord and love our brothers who may be wayward.”


That’s my answer.


If you don’t want to answer my question then great.

But don’t expect me to keep answering your endless questions when you refuse to answer mine.



Do the lost need salvation?




JPT
No you did not answer my first question.
Prodical son and sheep.

You correlate them together.
You said the sheep would repent and return like the prodical son.
I asked why you think that.

YOU DID NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND REFUSE TO..

My answer was “because we love the Lord and love our brothers who may be wayward.”
You say above.
And I have already said I agree with you.

But don’t expect me to keep answering your endless questions when you refuse to answer mine.
I answered it and am not asking endless questions, just one and only one.

Now care to man up and answer.
Maybe you cannot because it exposes the lies you peddle.

Do the lost need salvation?
Pathetic and condescending to ask that to a fellow believer.
 
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nice. show up, start calling folks losers...

show where any are saying no desire to obey God, yet still saved.
WOW BROTHER!!! I just got here and you come at me swinging....what's up wichu??

I didn't call no one a loser..I wrote what the other person said and responded to it...

Is your name Peter? Man who talked before he thought. LOL
 
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nice. show up, start calling folks losers...

show where any are saying no desire to obey God, yet still saved.
In all fairness he was quoting and referencing what I said to him about not making the same mistake as the salvation losers.....
 

BillG

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And what does "become lost" mean?
It makes laugh the above.

It's like when you call the bank because you can't find your debit card.

They ask you "Can you remember when you last used/saw it?

Hmm let me think about that.

Yes I last saw it in my wallet.
Oh yes just looked and it's there. Silly me.

Hmm yes I last used it in that shop.
I remember that, never thougt to go back and see if I left it there..
 

BillG

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I answered your question.


My answer was “because we love the Lord and love our brothers who may be wayward.”


That’s my answer.


If you don’t want to answer my question then great.

But don’t expect me to keep answering your endless questions when you refuse to answer mine.



Do the lost need salvation?




JPT
FYI
Did you even bother reading my post below, long before your post above.

Just for the record as it is dear to my heart.

We are all to seek out those who have gone astray.
We are called to do that rather than just write them off as dirty miserable sinners.
When we do we should be willing to walk with them, get into the nitty gritty of what is going on and disciple them.

If they genuinely have no desire to be discipled then we can step back.

But never ever ever be a Pharisee.
As we judge so will we be judged.

And that's all I to say about that.
 

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Anyone but me, can feel the GLOBAL WARMING THEORY SLIPPING ? ? ?

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VCO

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WOW BROTHER!!! I just got here and you come at me swinging....what's up wichu??

I didn't call no one a loser..I wrote what the other person said and responded to it...

Is your name Peter? Man who talked before he thought. LOL


NO, we have had ONE TOO MANY PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ATTITUTE as you seem to have.